Energy and Sex?

[Syko Dragon]

There are Many different beliefs that people have on sexual activity...Just take these as possible outcomes, applications, processes, etc...

*Having sex abundantely (meaning, for non-procreational reasons []) is wasting Your Energy...For procreational reasons, it is a culmination of 2 people's Energies...In that case, it is a culmination to induce "Creative Energies" (babies)...

One saying is, "Don't waste Your Jing"...Jing has different meanings as well, but some believe it to mean Your Sexual/Creative Ability (one in the same type of Energy)...

Some see it as if You are too sexually active, You are wasting too much Energy (even if You are Cultivating Energy other times)...


*Becoming sexually stimulated has alternating and overlapping views...Some say that sexual stimulation is just the body reacting by Concentrating Energy (or rather, chemicals Concentrating Energy) into particular ways to create changes in the body (thus Active Imaginations, with Focus, can also create sexual stimulation)...

Now, there is also a belief that stimulating the sexual organs (patting or cupping the sexual organs) with the tensing of the perineum stimulates the Base Chakra, thus cultivating Energy there...Some practices just Focus on tensing the perineum during Focused Breathing for Energy Cultivation...

These 2 views kind of overlap, but they can also Both be True or Both hold some Truth within them...


*Sex is many times seen as a conjuction of 2 people's Energies...That can mean many things: (1) Your Energy is being sent to Your partner, (2) Your Energy is sent to a type of "Idea" (a baby, pleasure, etc), or (3) both, with whatever emphasis You put Your Attention on...

However, there are also views that say that the climax, also involving chemicals, will automatically send Energy due to the "direction" the chemical reactions create...It is, though, widely agreed that a Focus of prolonging time before climax or just Focusing on the Climax itself can incorporate Your own "direction" to how You want to send that Energy...

For example, using the perineum (from Training it), has been known to make a climax feel more intense, increase the amount of semen being expelled (it is said, though, that increased semen levels come from Training the perineum), elongate the time of the climax, increase sexual stamina, make erections last longer (even when You're old), and more...


*One last thing, some believe that BUILDING UP/CULTIVATING "sexual energy" through Training with the perineum Helps Increase Energy Levels, but a Climaxing does not, but rather wastes it...



I Hope this Helped...Good Luck Training...Until we meet again...

[Radha]

I was fortunate enough to have had two teachers who were trained in Monastic environments.  One had spent 63 years in India in a monastic Order, the other 14 yrs.  They taught me some simple basics about this question that might help.  At least they helped me.
The energy you refer to is the energy that enters our system for purposes of giving BEing or life.  It can give BEing at whatever level it is applied to.
Sex has as its purpose, to give life or BEing.  IF the energy is given to a female (if you are male)it moves into a circuitous path and can benefit both persons IF it is charged with the energy of love.  If it is charges with the energy of lust, it is not of benefit, and can be destructive in its path.
In real training (meaning in an esoteric school...not from books etc) you are working on Change of Being.  Thus the energy which can give BEing is needed to aid in this.
I've written elsewhere in this forum on this in greater detail, but briefly: (1) if you are not in an esoteric school, and not working seriously at Change of Being, it probably doesn't matter what you do with the energy, so to speak. (2) if you are fortunate and in such a school, most of them suggest continence as opposed to celibacy.
(3) some paths insist you at least be at the point of being a householder before they will admit you.  This is because you would be more likely to have a channel for the sex drive in your female partner. (if male).
You can (and do) also utilize the energy when you study (changing being) change jobs, (changing being) get married (changing being) join a club (changing being) and so on.
As these two men pointed out to me, sex is just one center's application of the energy.  The spleen center might use it to develop a beautiful body; the solar plexus center might use it to "get ahead" in business or climb the corporate ladder; and so on up the chain.
The sex energy should not be suppressed.  Just put it to work in the center's activity of your choosing.
When they speak of transmuting the energy they refer to what eastern schools call "Bahkti" or devotion.  This doesn't refer to being devoted to a human being.  Bahkti transmutes the energy into change of Being.  If you put that kind of energy on another human all you get is varying degrees of sexual appetite.  This is why so often we here or read of a schools teacher being involved in a sexual activity of some sort.  They just didn't know how to transmute what was being put on them is all.
This may generate more smoke than light but if it doesn't help let me know your questions and concerns and I'll attempt to re-word some of this.
Cheers,
Radha

[Soulfire]

Thanks for the replies so far.  []

If anyone has specific information about how you can channel this energy to either store it or use it for personal transformation, I would greatly appreciate any further information.  []

--Soulfire

[eomaia]

I want to learn the mysteries of same-sex erotic love.

-eomaia scansoria

[Adept_of_Light]

Dear Soulfire,

Rather than regurgitate the words of certain authors that have written some "good" works on the subject matter you raise, I will instead present you with a few titles for you to get started on (see below).

I highly recommend you read all the various reviews of these books. Especially the negative ones, some of which contain certain warnings the authors may have neglected to mention. These are the best books on the subject I am aware of, but none of them, even when combined make up a complete and perfect system safe from all harm and allowing everyone to succeed.

1)Awaken Healing Energy Through Tao, by Mantak Chia
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0943358078/qid=1061187845/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/002-9269908-1024813?v=glance&s=books


2)Taoist Secrets of Love: Cultivating Male Sexual Energy, by Mantak Chia
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0943358191/ref=pd_bxgy_img_2/002-9269908-1024813?v=glance&s=books


3)The Tao of Sexology: The Book of Infinite Wisdom, by Stephan T. Chang
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0942196031/qid=1061187931/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-9269908-1024813?v=glance&s=books


I do have a few words of wisdom to say regarding these books. If you are serious about ever practicing any of these methods, I suggest you pay very close attention:

a)Read the first book first and pay close attention to the warnings because Mr. Chia neglects to provide the readers with the same warnings in his other books that are of lesser quality (mostly due to plagirising himself over and over again from his previous books).

b) In regard to the circulating of energy through the primary chakras in the first book, I'd suggest you use Robert's N.E.W. method first as it is a far safer approach. Mr. Chia provides a better anatomical description, but Robert's methods are safer in that you start with Tetriary paths, then Secondary and finally primary chakra energy circulation. Mr. Chia's methods may lead to some very large energy spikes, as primary chakras are opened - this is not a good thing and can even be a shocking experience and depending on the individual, side effects can be hazardous to your health, or be annoying by having energy sensations going on for days in certain parts of your body.

c) Avoid practicing the "Million Dollar" point practices. A far safer and just or more effective practice is Mr. Chang's (the third book) "Deer Exercise". Note his advanced Deer exercise is the same as Mr. Chia's first book and when you get to that stage, use Mr. Chia's book instead, but start out with Mr. Chang's exercises, after you've already done Robert's N.E.W.

d) Regardless of what these men say about retaining the seed, do this very gradually and not overnight or you may suffer physical consequences, in particular problems with your root chakra and your prostate that can be devistating. You will be working with very powerful energies, do not take these exercises and practices for granted, they are actually quite advanced regardless of how simple the authors make them sound.

e) Do everything in moderation and read the works of various other authors as well to get a more well rounded understanding.

f) The retaining of the seed can indeed produce some of the results these men describe, but if done incorrectly or if done when your body (physical or energetic) is not ready for it, can do more damage than good.

g) There are more important things in life than retaining your seed, especially in the beginning stages of spiritual growth. Do everything with a balanced approach, educate yourself first, and listen to your inner voice and what your body is telling you.

Best wishes,
Adept of Light

PS. There is also a 4th book for women by Mantak Chia (Cultivating the Female Sexual Energy, an orange cover book) as the three above are mostly for men. I can not comment on this as I have not read it through in detail yet, and also I can't speak about the practices as I am not a woman, though the reviews seem mostly positive.

[Soulfire]

Thank you for the detailed advice and references.  I am in the early stages of the NEW system right now, so I will follow your advice and stick with that until I am more developed.

Does the modified version of the NEW system detailed in the Astral Dynamics book give me everything I need or should I look for the un-modified version?

--Soulfire

[WalkerInTheWoods]

The NEW system on www.astralpulse.com is more detailed and may be better for someone that is totally new to energy. Basicly they are the same though. If you are new to energy work then it could not hurt to atleast read over the file on the site.

Robert's NEW system does seem to be a better, and maybe a safer, way to learn energy development. But I learned about it first from Mantak Chia when I read another of his books on this subject. I never experienced any negative effects, but I was exercising and I find exercise to be a good grounding method. He does suggest physical exercise, atleast in the book that I read. After you have learned Robert's NEW system I suggest you look into the books suggested.

quote:Avoid practicing the "Million Dollar" point practices

I never bothered with practicing this. It seemed rather odd and really pointless to me.


I wanted to add, though it has been said, that when you cultivate sexual energy you will also cultivate your emotions you have at the time. If you are angery you will cultivate anger, lustful you will cultivate lust. Basicly this practice can be dangerous if you are in a negative mood or having unproductive emotions. Being loving and happy is ideal for this practice. I just wanted to stress this as it is very important.

[Soulfire]

quote:Originally posted by fallnangel77

I wanted to add, though it has been said, that when you cultivate sexual energy you will also cultivate your emotions you have at the time.

I had never thought of that, but it makes sense.  Thank you.  []

--Soulfire

[jc84corvette]

Wow this is a lot of information! Thank you! I will use it wisley![8D]

[Soulfire]

Hi,

I have a few questions about energy development and sex that I was hoping you more experienced people could answer:

First of all, how does having sex generally affect your overall energy levels and energy development excercises.

When you are sexually stimulated, is that actually "generating" new energy in your sexual center or is it just somehow moving your existing energy through your sexual center or what?

When a person reaches climax, what happens to that energy?  Do you keep it, give it to the person you are having sex with, etc?  Is there any way to consciously manipulate or change what normally happens to this energy?

Thanks in advance for your time.  

--Soulfire