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Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: volcomstone on February 09, 2004, 09:32:48
wow this is a very informative post

1.  what is energy?

2. whats the difference between matter and energy?

3. does a light particle  always travel at the speed of light?

4. what does soma have to do with the moon?

5. what does the moon have to do with anything?

6. is orgone any different than chi or prana?

Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: Irreal on February 09, 2004, 13:09:02
how do I transform myself into a lotus?
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: 1Zenryoku on February 10, 2004, 07:45:23
Energy lies in every living thing. Its what keeps youalive alost like your soul... Its not magic...
also this is about ki not the moon...
what about a flower..
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: Aries on February 10, 2004, 07:50:05
I have a energy question. Does Ki have anything to do with AstralProjecting? If so, then what is a good starting method to raise my natural energy levels.
-Aries
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: 1Zenryoku on February 10, 2004, 08:04:17
I not big on AP but if you tap into kundilani your sense of wareness will be upgraded...
You tap into this energy y aligning all your chakras by forcing ki through them when they are all lined up and clear Your energy level will sky rockett you must learn very deep meditation to do this..
Ki may have different effects in the Astral or it may do nothing at all but kundilai will probablly get you to Phase in much much faster.. you will become an enlightened soul..
Start with meditation..  Very deep medition you must first learn to move ki through out your body.. this is enabled through visualiztion..if you need help with any of theswe please say so..
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: Aries on February 10, 2004, 08:17:28
How do I align my chakras? I think I know how to move the energy.. but Im not sure.
-Aries
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: Mistic-Idan on February 10, 2004, 08:43:01
I have the basicest question.
How do you make a psy ball?? I know this question was asked a million of times but I still don't understand how to do it.. I can feel the energy in my hands but not as strong enough... someone told me he could make a so strong psy ball that he can't push his hands each to other cuz the resistance is soo strong... so I wanna know just how to make a basic one that I can feel clearly.
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: volcomstone on February 10, 2004, 12:48:14
quote:
also this is about ki not the moon...
what about a flower..


I think you are the one who should be asking the questions, or perhaps a little research is in order.  You haven't even answered one of my questions.

maybe your intention is in the right place, but you claim to have knowledge of such things, but it obvious you do not. Spreading mis-information is one of the worse things you could be doing, especially if your intention was to inform and educate people on the idea of energy.

P.s.  any simplton knows that the lotus refers to the 7th chakra.
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: kakkarot on February 10, 2004, 13:25:48
i agree with volcomstone: ryo you obviously need to research kundalini A LOT more before you speak of it and try to give people insight into it or ideas of how to use it.

and for everyone reading this thread: do NOT force your energy through your chakras to try and get higher levels of energy or to try and align your chakras. using kundalini and forcing it through your chakras can seriously screw you up, and using ki and trying that can also have rather nasty side effects. do NOT force your energy, work WITH it, calmly, slowly, peacefully, directing it, not forcing it.

~kakkarot
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: 1Zenryoku on February 11, 2004, 06:33:14
I am not real big on anything but ki, shen, and jing everythimg else I know a little about but usually its enough to answer beginning questions and if you 2 are so badass I would apreciate any input on hleping people here... it never hurts to have more than 1 idea...
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: kakkarot on February 11, 2004, 11:57:15
because you're the one that made the offer to answer people's questions. i didn't see any point in saying anything until you gave a potentially destructive idea on how to use kundalini.

but if you insist..
aries: "Does Ki have anything to do with AstralProjecting?" if you mean ki as in chi, as in spiritual energy, then it can have to do with AP. robert bruce's (one of?) idea of ap is that an energy double is created from your energy supply and the double is sent out on the astral projection voyages. i don't ap regularily myself, i've only been out of body a few times and only one of those times was it consciously done.

"How do I align my chakras?" they are already aligned unless you did something to yourself that serious ****ed you up (or unless someone else did it to you). if you can't feel them though, the point it moot.

mistic-idan: "How do you make a psy ball?" learn how to feel the energy throughout your entire body, then learn how to move it. from there it's a simple matter of moving the energy into a ball. take time, be patient, and remember to let the energy flow rather than trying to force it. as a metaphor, you can blow against the wind as much as you want but it's not going to change direction ;) . work with the energy rather than against it.

volcomestone:
1. what is energy?
scientifically defined energy is the potential to do work.

2. whats the difference between matter and energy?
don't know off the top of my head, but do a web search.

3. does a light particle always travel at the speed of light?
no. C is the speed of light /in a vacuum/, though many people tend to forget that. light travels at different speeds in different substances, and it has been traditionally thought that nothing in the universe could travel faster than C, but recently (unless the experiment was flawed) scientists were able to get a photon of light to travel faster than C (and i've not heard of the experiment having been repeated, so it may have even just been a fluke).

next off: light particles aren't the same as light photons, though i'm sure you meant light photons in the question. a light particle (neutrino) does not travel at the speed of light and scientists are STILL trying to trap one in order to study it. but since it goes through literally everything they are having a dickens of a time with that.

4. what does soma have to do with the moon?
don't know.

5. what does the moon have to do with anything?
some think of the moon as an energy source. also, it has been shown that "heavenly bodies" (the moon, stars, planets, etc) do have an effect upon humans eventhough they are so far away from us. get into astrology for more info on this.

6. is orgone any different than chi or prana?
don't know much about orgone.

and finally, irreal: "how do I transform myself into a lotus?" don't know.

~kakkarot
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: volcomstone on February 11, 2004, 16:16:17
thanks kakkarot for the answers, but being a jerk I already new the answers to the questions I asked, I tend to do that allot.

anyhow
quote:
light particle (neutrino) does not travel at the speed of light and scientists are STILL trying to trap one in order to study it. but since it goes through literally everything they are having a dickens of a time with that.




they've discovered that a neutrino has mass (at the sudbury neutrino detector no less YAY CANADA) and it goes along with some of the quantum equations, they just needed verification.

soma can be considered many things , a sacrifice, an herb, or its the cosmic "semen" that eminates from the moon, in hindu religion the sun was considered female and the moon male

Orgone was discovered by william reich, he called it the life energy, or energy for a good orgasm, Im sure it falls into the catergory as ki, or kudalini, but maybe slightly different

and Im not trying to be a baddass, zenryoku, its just if you look how little effort you put into the first post you're lucky a moderator just didn't delete it.
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: kakkarot on February 16, 2004, 15:26:04
so ren, do you think my answers were good enough? is there anything that should be added or changed? after all, this is your thread [:)].

~kakkarot
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: boydster on February 16, 2004, 22:58:47
quote:
Originally posted by kakkarot


2. whats the difference between matter and energy?
don't know off the top of my head, but do a web search.

~kakkarot



From the occult point of view the answer to this one is just a matter of frequency of vibration. Energy has a very high frequency of vibration while matter is condensed or "slowed down" energy.
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: 1Zenryoku on February 17, 2004, 07:17:08
Okay this is not really My thread its a place to discuss energy and get different views on what it is and how to use it...
Ohh yeahh and by energy I mean Ki not the ability to do work...
Ohhhhh And I will answer only the questions I know I will not pretend to know things that I don't...opkay so all of yalls help would be appreciated
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: Cruel Tendencies on February 17, 2004, 15:54:44
To answer a couple of the questions here (sorry if I miss any)...

Energy, also called ki, chi, qi, prana, orgone, and lots of other names, has everything to do with astral projection.  Energy is what the astral plane is composed of, and astral projection allows you to experience that energy in the way that you're used to (i.e. as if it were through your physical senses).

As I said above, energy (ki, chi, whatever) is the same thing as orgone.  William Reich was far from the first person to discover the lifeforce that permeates the world - he was just the first to give it a pseudo-scientific term and basis of explanation.

The moon has assocations with the astral plane in all circles of occultism.  In the Kabbalah, the moon is attributed to Yesod, which is also the astral plane (put simply - the astral actually deals with more than Yesod, but this will do for our purposes here) and deals with sexual energy.  It has to do with forces of attraction and repulsion, as well as subconscious (lunar) influences on the world.  The connections run too deeply to go into too much detail here, but suffice it to say that they exist, and some effort put into researching said connections will definitely bear fruit.

All of the chakras are said to look (psychically) like lotus flowers.  Each chakra is said to have a different number of petals, which I believe goes into an explanation of the job of each chakra.  Not really my specialty, so I wouldn't be able to say how many petals each chakra is supposed to have, but again, there's a lot of material available on the web for those who're interested in this type of thing.

While trying to force energy into your chakras sounds like a generally bad idea, I'm not sure how it would actually happen.  In my experience, at least with NEW, as you progress and become capable of moving more energy with more ease, you also become capable of handling a larger influx of energy.  Obviously you want to progress at your own pace, but I think in the end everything will even itself out.

If you're just starting out and want to learn how to manipulate and sense energy, then there's no better training available than NEW, which is offered free on this website.  If you're trying to make a "psiball" or some other "trick", then practice NEW and you'll eventually just know how to do it.  Probably around the time you realize that it's not worth doing... but that's just my opinion.


Paul
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: 1Zenryoku on February 18, 2004, 06:31:18
Thx for your imput
ohh Yeah and I read about forcing ki through chakras on the web and me I am not to big on Chakras I just stated what I was taught by skull kid...
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: Moonburn33 on February 20, 2004, 02:41:31
from where i stand, perceptually, i don't know what matter is, but i can tell you that i've got a good notion that ki might be a sort of raw, proto- energy.  it seems to come "before" energy.  when i say "before" i mean spatially before energy (as in fourth mathematical dimension..ally)

orgone you say? will have to add that to my list so i can be more of a metaphysics geek
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: Moonburn33 on February 20, 2004, 02:44:53
and fyi:  all chakras are spoken of as being "lotuses" in hindu and buddhist(anybody?) literature.  I've always thought of them as being a metaphor, but some people say that the number of petals on a "lotus" actually has to do with the mechanics of the mechanism that is the wondrous chakra
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: Kato on February 20, 2004, 08:06:06
check out a cool website i found www.freewebs.com/chipowers/
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: Talon213 on February 20, 2004, 09:03:53
[V] Seems like just another dbzer site to me, although I will say that it does have some useful information. It would be far more benificial to read about the NEW rather than read what that site has to say about 'training'.

Hopefully I haven't offended anyone by this post.
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: kakkarot on February 20, 2004, 12:04:51
quote:
quoted from the website
This tech is designed to destroy your opponet in battle.

Lift you right hand into the air the focus 50% of your energy into your hands.

Slowly form the ball and have it glow to the size of a big astroid.  Thow your hand down and yell the attack, vision the big ball crashing down on your opponet and destroying them.
.... riiiiight. i'm gonna "vision" that guy's eyes being poked out and see how well that works [}:)].

~kakkarot (and btw, if you couldn't tell i'm just kidding [|)])
Title: Energy Questions?
Post by: 1Zenryoku on February 09, 2004, 06:24:24
Ask away..