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knightlight

I just wanted to pop on here and recommend a 48 hour fast to anyone who wants to boost their energy sensitivity.  I have had amazing results just from fasting for 2 days.  I have felt all of my chakras which I haven't done before and managed to clear a few blockages that have been bothering me for a while.  I admit that around hour 26 I had a wicked migraine and felt like I was practically dying around hour 30 due to the process of removing toxins and dumping them in my bloodstream, but when I awoke this afternoon from a nap I felt like a new person.  I could only imagine how much benefit I could gain from a week, but alas my mind is made up, and in about 2 hours I will order a massive pizza, pour myself a small glass of bourbon and indulge heavily.  I will probably only be able to eat one piece and be drunk before I know it, but the satisfaction will be great I'm sure!  :D
Profound Impatience makes the blind struggle in Stupidity.

Seeker of Matter

Hey that sounds great. I am actually planing to go on a faste in the summervercation myself, something that Souljah333 recommended and now also you!

well tell more. what ells has happened to you? how about your thinking ability, has the fasting changed that in anyway or is it still the same?

were you on some kind of diet, if yes, which one ?

i am planing on doing 14 days of faste but I doubt I can stand it for more than 3 hours  :roll:

knightlight

hahahah the first 24 hours where the hardest, after that I wasnt hungry anymore.  All the toxins in my system from years of drug and alcohol abuse coming out hurt like you wouldnt believe, and a fast of the size your talking about would probably put me into toxic shock.  The elimination of toxins is far worse than not eating.  Our bodies have enough stored to last a while.  During the fast I went through a period of having a hard time thinking and talking, but after about hour 20 my senses peaked and I am still experiencing this.  My mouth tasted like it was full of blood starting about hour 30 and my body odor got pretty bad about hour 40, but its understandable considering all the crap my body was trying to push out, and if I had continued, I have read I could have lost up to 10 pounds of toxins from my body.  In the past 48 hours I have drank about 140 oz. of water.  This helped me alot when I as hungry and really helped my body get stuff out.  Around hour 40 my urine was approaching orange due to the emmission of toxins.  I think it is a good way to aid in overall health and look forward to fasting more in the future.  It gives a great sense of accomplishment and im sure my pizza is going to taste amazing.

As we speak my pizza is being made!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :lol:  sorry, just really excited.  Got some chicken wings with it too!  :wink:
Profound Impatience makes the blind struggle in Stupidity.

StaticVagabond

When fasting, do you count time spent sleeping towards the overall clock, or do you only count your waking hours? Or did you just got with the 'ol stay up for two days deal? I'm interested in attempting a fast like this after reading this topic and just wanted a few more details before trying it.

knightlight

I dont remember where, but I saw a post on here that was a free ebook on fasting that helped me get prepared, and I do count sleeping.
Profound Impatience makes the blind struggle in Stupidity.

mindseye

My mom dont allow me to take fast.

Seeker of Matter

I have started my fast today! If i am counting from when I got up, I have now had 15 hours of not eating. The worst thing is what it is doing to my mind... I feel 30% dumber and my reaction time has increased, I sure hope there will be some benefits in doing this.... well I hope I can keep it up for 14 days if it doesn't get any worse than this it is no problem at all.
I have been drinking a lot of water and my pee is as clear as crystals.... I might even bottle it and sell it to that "new-age" shop (which is where I bought that totally expensive maple syrup from) and sell it as mountain spring water... LOL

I sure hope that toxins are not just some made-up hippie-crap that is used to make us buy some expensive and useless stuff in order for certain people to make a lot of money.

What exactly is a "toxin" ? Can I see a picture?

Well I will just wait and see if this does any good to me. I actually think it  will be mentally damaging for me when i watch my family eat home made pizza tomorrow...... I love home made pizza   :cry:

Seeker of Matter

So i guess that i now have passed the 24 hour mark. How do I feel? Well.... I really don't feel much, I was expecting vomiting sensations and cramps and hair loss but I get none of those. But hey perhaps if I just wait some more it will come...

I did experience one weird thing though.... I dreamt of ketchup - insane amounts of ketchup everywhere and i was pouring it onto a giant plate and it was really really weird!!!

If I am not able to FLY at the end of my fast.... I will get very mad!
Did I btw. mention that I still feel about 30% dumber? Well I do and that's not cool!

knightlight

hahaha after the first night I had a really bizzarre dream too!  The first 24 hours is pretty pointless and I also felt a bit dulled, give it another 24.  I'm sure my experience is unique just like yours will be, best of luck.
Profound Impatience makes the blind struggle in Stupidity.

Seeker of Matter

I just realized something.... my day is actually totally constructed upon eating. When I think of something nice to do, it involves eating.... Jesus.... my mind is too focused on eating. I find now that i do not know what to do!!
Normally I would have looked for something to eat and prepared it and that whole process would have killed some time.
But now... I really need a hobby  :shock:

knightlight

yes eating is a big part of our lives, eating is the strongest urge.
Profound Impatience makes the blind struggle in Stupidity.

Kris

ugh.. i could probably never fast.. lol...

i'm always hungry, since i've got a fast metabolism.. ahahaha

Kris

Quote from: Seeker of MatterI just realized something.... my day is actually totally constructed upon eating. When I think of something nice to do, it involves eating.... Jesus.... my mind is too focused on eating. I find now that i do not know what to do!!
Normally I would have looked for something to eat and prepared it and that whole process would have killed some time.
But now... I really need a hobby  :shock:

play a PC game... lol...

watch TV

troll forums...

go for a run

ride a bike...

go shopping... lol

Seeker of Matter

Now I know what fasting is good for! It improves your sense of smell. I can now when I am sitting in the basement smell what my mother is cooking upstairs - it is driving me crazy but i definitely have a better sense of smell now!! Besides from I can't really feel any improvements yet.

I guess the way I feel is pretty well described in a song Tool made called "The Patient"

Quote
A groan of tedium escapes me,
Startling the fearful.
Is this a test? It has to be,
Otherwise I can't go on.
Draining patience, drain vitality.
This paranoid, paralyzed vampire act's a little old.

But I'm still right here
Giving blood, keeping faith
And I'm still right here.

Wait it out,
Gonna wait it out,
Be patient (wait it out).

If there were no rewards to reap,
No loving embrace to see me through
This tedious path I've chosen here,
I certainly would've walked away by now.
Gonna wait it out.

If there were no desire to heal
The damaged and broken met along
This tedious path I've chosen here
I certainly would've walked away by now.

And I still may ... (sigh) ... I still may.

Be patient.
I must keep reminding myself of this.

And if there were no rewards to reap,
No loving embrace to see me through
This tedious path I've chosen here,
I certainly would've walked away by now.
And I still may.

Gonna wait it out.

Seeker of Matter

Quote from: Kris
Quote from: Seeker of MatterI just realized something.... my day is actually totally constructed upon eating. When I think of something nice to do, it involves eating.... Jesus.... my mind is too focused on eating. I find now that i do not know what to do!!
Normally I would have looked for something to eat and prepared it and that whole process would have killed some time.
But now... I really need a hobby  :shock:

play a PC game... lol...

watch TV

troll forums...

go for a run

ride a bike...

go shopping... lol

You would be amazed how much joy is taken from the TV when you are hungry. You simply can't find the strenght to laugh at the comedies anymore

I took a run yesterday and it went ok. But when I got home and relaxed my left knee started to hurt like never before... I have never had problems with my legs before. It still hurts btw.

The only thing that actually works is playing a PC game. But still I can't seem to enjoy it very much... the hunger is really present everywhere.

I am thinking about hitting my hand with a hammer. Then I would focus on the pain in my hand in stead of my hunger.....

I love the way this fast makes me think :twisted:

Seeker of Matter

Ok I see now that 14 days of starving was a way to big goal!! I am therefore ending my fast TODAY!!!! I can't take this anymore I am loosing my mind!!

I have lost 4 kilos and that is too drastic considering that I have just fasted for 3 days so i guess this is the end of that.

But I am not going to molester my refrigerator just yet. I am waiting until 7 pm because we are going to grill and I want have that nice juicy red steak - I want to taste every single molecule of that steak and remember that feeling forever.

Well happy fasting everyone. I guess it is a very subjective experience.

knightlight

hahaha enjoy that steak!!! the fast is worth the first meal after!  That 3 kilos you lost was probably half toxic crap built up in your system over the years.  Yes 14 days is extreme, but I would be interested in the experience.
Profound Impatience makes the blind struggle in Stupidity.

Seeker of Matter

hehe yes I know. A halfhearted fast is not going to chance anything. A whole new lifestyle is to be implanted if one wishes to get a healthier life, but i just wanted to try it :)

And Major Tom: That is also my thoughts! But apparently my mother does share the same enthusiasm for cooking exiting new foods. So steak it is :)

What I do when I want to tease my sense of taste is that I order a Mexican pizza from our local pizza thingy. After I have eaten one of those everything ells tastes like air!!! That is a pizza that will either kill you or make you stronger :) - highly recommendable!

Frank

He he, I've been reading this thread with interest as I've just come off a 4-day fast that I do, typically, every other month. I typically prepare a first meal of lettuce, tomatoe and cucumber. But I go to the market and select the very best I can find and savour the thought of crunching into that bowlfull of organic goodness. Just a little drizzle of olive oil and lemon juice sets it off.

Am I the only person who has never in their lives had a McPuke? Err, sorry, McDonalds. Even typing the name makes me feel ill. All that processed crap sitting there for months on end in deep storage when there are so many delicious fresh foods to choose from. So healthy as well. You wake up in the morning and your body feels ALIVE and raring to get on with the day.

Pity the animals that have to die so that people can feel good about pushing excrement down their throats, and the rain-forests that are being cut down at an alarming rate to provide temporary grazing for those animals. You'd think that with today's technology they'd have got around the need to make "burgers" out of meat. Processed cardboard and paper would surely suffice with a little flavouring.

But in today's capitalist world, the life of a burger-cow is probably not even worth an equivalent pile of newspaper. I always wonder how sick this world can become and each year it reaches a new low.

Yours,
Frank

patapouf

Quote from: Frank
But in today's capitalist world, the life of a burger-cow is probably not even worth an equivalent pile of newspaper. I always wonder how sick this world can become and each year it reaches a new low.

Oh yeah this world is really low, they even import wheat from poor countries to feed....the cows (that will then feed us or make us fatter); while millions are dying in those countries; how ironic.... This might be a good reason for many to try to fast a little bit.... I thought cereals were added in the microwaved burgers of Mc Doooo, but recycled cardboard and papers won't surprise anybody either....

Quote from: Major TomLike 12 organic eggs for 6 dollars (close to minimum wage I think) versus feeding your whole family for 10 dollars at McDonalds.

Vegetables here are more expensive than meat, since the meats are subsidized.

We probably need a veggie lobby like the meat industry

That is true that organic food is expensive, depending what you want to buy of course and what are your priorities in life (how you spend your money basically; ex: how many times you eat at the restaurant, etc.). As for organic food, I drink a lot of organic soy milk (chocolate flavor) which replace the liters of milk that I was drinking before. As for fasting, I never tried that but I don't know if it is recommended if you are working out at the gym regularly or if you do a lot of exercises. This is something that I might try one day....

Take care,

Frank

Hi:

Generally, what people choose to eat is obviously their business but I would invite people to please look at the consequences of their choices in relation to the animal side of things. If you can help to ease just a little of their suffering by choosing free-range over battery as regards eggs, for example. Then, collectively, it makes a LOT of difference.

Animals are life forms just like we are and they deserve to be treated with respect. Even if you choose to eat them, okay, I don't agree with that, but please try to ensure that the animals you choose to eat have not suffered in the horrendous way they do in these factory farms.

Factory farms are capitalism gone crazy.

I am vegetarian, I cannot say Vegan as I eat a little goats cheese and eggs now and again. But the goats cheese I buy I know the farmer's wife who makes it. I sit amongst the field of the goats (I love their smell) and say hello to them. I know the chickens that laid the eggs. They are running around my feet wanting attention (chickens are very demanding of attention when they get to know you).

I realise not everyone can be this connected with the animal produce they consume. But at least please spare a thought, that is all I would ask.  

Yours,
Frank

Frank

Major Tom:

For the record I agree with you. I feel the same way regarding your points about minimum wage and fast-food intake. I live on what might be called minimum wage. Although, if I were to live on UK standard minimum wage I would get a 40% pay-rise due to the exchange rate. :)

What you say is shocking. There are people working for 5.15 USD per hour? And that is minimum wage? That is only about £2.85. We pay almost double that for a gallon of gasoline.

Edit: I just checked and the adult-rate minimum wage in the UK (22 years+) is just over 9 USD equivalent per hour.

Yours,
Frank

Frank

Major Tom:

I feel that is scandalous and if that is how people who pull the short straws in life are having to live in the richest country in the world then that is a disgrace.

Yours,
Frank

knightlight

I agree 100% with both of you, and I am from the US.  I cant believe we sit passive like a bunch of idiots but what can you do?!  :D   I make 9.25 an hour plus tips from bar tending at 22 years of age and I still cant afford to buy a house or support a family.  I am actually moving back in with my parents to save money to start my own music studio.  Americans eating habits are horrendous.  I cant believe the slop we are eating day in and day out.  I work for a large seafood restaurant (anyone from US can probably guess which one) and I barely consider the high priced stuff we sell edible.  Most of it is frozen for weeks and thawed out improperly, sucking out most of the flavor and nutrients.  America was great, now it is selling its people the illusion of greatness from years past.  I may be able to afford luxury items that people in Africa cant, but I am just as much a slave to the government as they are.

The political parties are getting more and more extreme, focusing more and more on issues that don't matter.  Our country is polarizing and eventually civil war will begin I fear.  I pray before then we can come to an understanding that we are all people and wish for the same things but I deal with many many many people in one day, and I hate to stereotype, but most are mindless drones driven by how big their trucks are and how many floors their houses are.  They could give 2 diarrhea about their neighbor and anyone stepping on their lawn deserves a bullet in the eye.  Fear of terrorists is great, not thinking of the terrorists reasons for their actions other than they "hate our freedoms"  :roll:
Profound Impatience makes the blind struggle in Stupidity.

neutrino

Quote from: Frank

Am I the only person who has never in their lives had a McPuke? Err, sorry, McDonalds.

I've never had one either. Where I grew up (on the Isle of Man), they didn't open a branch until several years ago, by which time I was already a veggie. Always thought I was the only person who'd never had that particular 'pleasure'!  :D