A few thoughts on energy gathering:
Did you ever wonder why 'negs' are black and 'pos' are light colored? I know I have alot of ideas but Im sure at least some of this is true.
Gathering energy by forcing it into you doesn't work for 2 reasons;
1) unless you gather one type, your trying to take in a soup of pos/negs, that arent attuned to you anyways.
2) Darks gather energy this way, so unless you are a dark, or don't mind getting sick and becoming one, don't do it.
I found that you can gather energy in 3 ways without harm;
1) General energy- screen the negs out of it and become one with it, then convert it into an aspect of you while it flows into your base chakra.
2) Sun energy- 400 trillion plants cant be wrong :-P the sun is the source of life. When you sunbath/meditate imagine it becoming one with your spirit.
3) Entity energy- (people, animals, even plants) don't TAKE from them, GIVE to them, and over time it will return x10. Actually, even the bible tries to tell us this. It's why angels are luminous and negs are black.
Tell me if you get any results :-)
well I myself have been practicing a mixture of tai chi and other things which have had good results for myself. usually that I have in mind is pulling from the sky and the earth kind of as a yin and yang thing. but your saying this is wrong?
Words are so clumsy (theres so much miscommunication :?). I of course would have to be you to know just what you're doing, but it sounds like your doing #1, except taking in good and bad equally and converting it into neutral energy (yin/yang).
I only see a ratio of 2neg/1neut/200pos energies here so yin/yang is off balance in this area, and wouldn't work well (although neutral is transparent and really hard to see, so there may be more.) Maybe its because your neutral that negs don't bother you, but they bother the hell out of me, you have an amazing sense of balance.
huh? you sort of lost me are you sensing my energy or inferring of what I previously mentioned. my energy practices are new to me but seem to get better at each run but if you could explain more theroughly I would greatly appreciate it.
So you are saying that if you are more of a neg than a pos you should use neg energy, but if you are more pos then take in pos energy...?
but what if you are a neutral person, like one that agrees that both good and evil are just fine with them?
exactly that was my mind set the entire time I dont imagine yin and yang as good and bad but the two opposites coming together but that aside I'd think if you focused on what you want (good energy hopefully) thats what you'd get most the time right?
I have been doing energy work for many years now. In my experience energy is neither "good" nor "bad". It just is. I guess runlola described it best as universal life-force energy. The only "good" and "bad" I have found have been within me, and if energy seems to take on those qualities it is because they have been filtered through me to do so.
Yin and Yang are not about good and evil. They are not even about opposing forces but rather the two energies that are throughout the universe in all things, masculine and feminine. These energies are working together, not opposing each other.
I do not know about taking energy from other entities. I have never tried, nor have I ever had the desire to do so. One thing I have always enjoyed doing, even before I knew anything about energy work, is to go into the woods or any area with alot of plant life and just feel the energy. I still myself and just feel. I don't take or give, though it does feel like a sharing is going on. It is very refreshing.
EDIT: I dont know much about established techniques, this thread isnt about that, it's about why It seems you cant force energy to become you without feeling like crap later on, and the reaction different frequencies of energy have with eachother.
I wrote up a long post of actual experiences that reveals a lot, but I deleted it, I wasnt supose to talk about them.
My theory on energy is that
1) It is greatly effected by will and emotion. It often takes on signatures/forms, such as empathy and elementals. This is where it gains neg/pos traits in and out of the body.
2) All forms of energy sentient or not can be 'taken in' but it seems not all forms stay. I think the reason for this is your energy doesnt match up well enough with most energy.
3) Somewhere there has to be a base energy, building material. (Such as your universal energy Runlola).... I wonder if "lifesparks" are base energy.
But, when we practice NEW we're not "gathering" energy, but cleansing our inner conducts so the energy can enter in a natural manner.
I believe in nature and in our bodies, so even if the environment was not correctly equilibrated I'm sure the body's inner mechanisms would do their best to correct any inbalance.
I'm thinking of deleting this thread, but theres been so much talk on it already.
The thing is, in the past I really only experienced one side of this subject. I now realize the key to having greater energy is just being yourself. Just as vampirism/malignancy comes naturally to negs, so too does lovingly attracting positive energies/people come naturally to pos. I do highly reccomend you heal yourself if you feel you're a vampire (cause your life sucks). And I highly reccomend the people on the other end of the spectrum keep yourselves pure, you need to find a way to remove negative energy from yourself, because it can drain you very badly.
Quote from: Alaskans on August 11, 2006, 19:08:15
I'm thinking of deleting this thread, but theres been so much talk on it already.
The thing is, in the past I really only experienced one side of this subject. I now realize the key to having greater energy is just being yourself. Just as vampirism/malignancy comes naturally to negs, so too does lovingly attracting positive energies/people come naturally to pos. I do highly reccomend you heal yourself if you feel you're a vampire (cause your life sucks). And I highly reccomend the people on the other end of the spectrum keep yourselves pure, you need to find a way to remove negative energy from yourself, because it can drain you very badly.
You've hit the nail in the head. Astral energy is quite opposite to the magnetic one, I mean the positive pole attracts other positive poles and vice versa. So if you are self confident, you believe in goodness and you act under such rules you'll start to attract positive energy. So, benevolent people are nearly untouchable because their auras make "bad" energy rebound in their surface.
Alaskans you seem to be a person who got some wisedom.
You are right. But there is a way how to know when you gather negative energy or not, as simple negative energy is hot, and good energy is cool, not cold, just cool. When your Kundalini is awakened you can feel cool energy on your hands or inside your body or above your head, Kundalini is never hot, if people think so, then they are dealing with negative energys, so one must first indeed purifie himself or let the Kundalini purifie you, which is much easier in comparison, all those witches energyworkers and others whom works with this hot energy i must tell them that they are working with negativity, which evantually destroys oneself and ones purety and innosence, it is a very dangerous game you are all playing, you must all be very carefull, because there is a fight going on between good and evil for ages, but these battles are going to end sone and you have to choose on which side you want to be, if you become subjected to this hot energy playing and its power and the negs, then you will be catcht by them and you will be lost, you should all seek the beauty and the innosence within yourself, your true nature, wich is your spirit, that is what you should run after, what you should seek, after true spirituality wich is wisdom, innosence, chastity, forgiveness and oneness with the whole, with the divine, which go beyond the ego, beyond the mind, beyond your intellect. Don't seek power, but seek the love of the divine, which is also within you but needs to be awakened by the love of our universal Mother, Your Kundalini is your individual Mother, The Kundalini has no anger, no hatred, no ego, no destructive power, She has only Love, love for her children, compassion, forgiveness, innosence, She cannot give anything else, She will not give anything else, you cannot use Her to gain power, She can't pamper your ego, none of that, Her disire is, for you all to become divine, to become holy personalities, not persons who run after power or woman all the time, She wants you all to become beautifull, innocent and all that is good and joy giving, She wants you all to become the truth itself, to become the joy of love, to become the purety of innocense itself.
If this is not what you seek, then you cannot call yourself seekers of truth, because the truth is what it is, it cannot be corrupted, if you do not seek the truth... the truth will not seek you also, then what can you expect from God, what could you ask from Him, He will not give. Your seeking must be pure, honest it must be from your heart, not your brain not your ego nor intellect. Don't fall into the traps of your ego, for it offers nothing then destruction of your beauty and your purety.
It is time for you to discover your true essence, which is the Spirit, which is God.
Quote from: astraluminated on August 15, 2006, 09:11:16
But there is a way how to know when you gather negative energy or not, as simple negative energy is hot, and good energy is cool, not cold, just cool.
I don't agree with that point. Sometimes I've felt cool energy and others a hot one and the end result has been the same: a state of well being. For sure even this sensory sensation is not a sure indicator of good and evil. Besides, if you read on espiritual texts (bible, sutras,...) you'll always find out that good is linked to warmth.
Quote from: astraluminated on August 15, 2006, 09:11:16
When your Kundalini is awakened you can feel cool energy on your hands or inside your body or above your head, Kundalini is never hot, if people think so, then they are dealing with negative energys, so one must first indeed purifie himself or let the Kundalini purifie you, which is much easier in comparison, all those witches energyworkers and others whom works with this hot energy i must tell them that they are working with negativity, which evantually destroys oneself and ones purety and innosence, it is a very dangerous game you are all playing, you must all be very carefull, because there is a fight going on between good and evil for ages, but these battles are going to end sone and you have to choose on which side you want to be,
I'm a bit tired of these theories about what is good and bad. Everything is neutral and that's our main goal in this life, to break down this bipolar view of the existence. The most good and the most evil for a person is but the result of his karmic record. On Earth animals don't know about it, they just live, they do "bad" to other animals when they hunt but that is "good" for their own communities. It's all a matter of perspective and humankind have not the best one for sure.
When you all talk about negative entities I am sure that they are but the projection of our own fears in the upper planes. That everlasting battle in between good and evil is too christian, it's better to adopt more positive ways of thinking
It's true that it must be done a kind of a cleansing before kundalini can awaken, but that comes from cleaning up our "hearts" and our "psyches" more than from practicing energy exercises. But please, don't call it purifying... even dirt is sacred and has its own function on the stage.
Quote from: astraluminated on August 15, 2006, 09:11:16
if you become subjected to this hot energy playing and its power and the negs, then you will be catcht by them and you will be lost,
Buzz warnings "you'll be lost!!!!!". An impossible thing, indeed.
Quote from: astraluminated on August 15, 2006, 09:11:16
you should all seek the beauty and the innosence within yourself, your true nature, wich is your spirit, that is what you should run after, what you should seek, after true spirituality wich is wisdom, innosence, chastity, forgiveness and oneness with the whole,
Chastity?, are we against sex again?, when will people realize the sacred function of sex?
Quote from: astraluminated on August 15, 2006, 09:11:16with the divine, which go beyond the ego, beyond the mind, beyond your intellect. Don't seek power, but seek the love of the divine, which is also within you but needs to be awakened by the love of our universal Mother, Your Kundalini is your individual Mother, The Kundalini has no anger, no hatred, no ego, no destructive power,
It has destructive powers. You should read on real cases about kundalini raisings. Many people were not prepared enough and they had a lot of troubles asimilating its energy, not to speak about the disorders it can provoke if it gets stagnated in the middle of the ascension. Just think about a flow of 220v energy on a 125v wire.
Quote from: astraluminated on August 15, 2006, 09:11:16with the She has only Love, love for her children, compassion, forgiveness, innosence, She cannot give anything else, She will not give anything else, you cannot use Her to gain power, She can't pamper your ego, none of that, Her disire is, for you all to become divine, to become holy personalities, not persons who run after power or woman all the time, She wants you all to become beautifull, innocent and all that is good and joy giving, She wants you all to become the truth itself, to become the joy of love, to become the purety of innocense itself.
If this is not what you seek, then you cannot call yourself seekers of truth, because the truth is what it is, it cannot be corrupted, if you do not seek the truth... the truth will not seek you also, then what can you expect from God, what could you ask from Him, He will not give. Your seeking must be pure, honest it must be from your heart, not your brain not your ego nor intellect. Don't fall into the traps of your ego, for it offers nothing then destruction of your beauty and your purety.
It is time for you to discover your true essence, which is the Spirit, which is God.
More or less agree. But I won't tell people "do this or do that". They'll realize acording to their evolution schedule what they need to evolve. They just can ask for help to the ones of upside, it works, who was going to say that praying (apart from fanatism and some religions' destructive thinking) worked...
http://www.elcollie.com/st/symptoms.html
http://www.reiki-for-holistic-health.com/kundaliniawakening.html
http://heartseva.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini
Quote from: astraluminated on August 15, 2006, 09:11:16
Alaskans you seem to be a person who got some wisedom.
You are right. But there is a way how to know when you gather negative energy or not, as simple negative energy is hot, and good energy is cool, not cold, just cool.
Thank you for the compliment Astraluminated, but I mostly just listen :-P
You are partly right with your compliment about energy temperature. Dark energy (at least from spirits) at first feels like cold goosebumps, then a lot like you have a fever, yet your skin is cold. Your bones feel like they're burning, and you physicly hurt. So the sensation seems hot but is actually cold. It can also feel somewhat like numbness with the burning bones thing. Kinda creepy I guess.
Good energy from spirits is just a gentle internal warmth. Static good energy seems to be similar. I really dont beleive warm or even hot energy is bad, it's mearly faster resonance, so it creates heat.
How about "don't think of evil, don't get evil"
If you pull energy think its golden...... or blue, or any nice color.
I don't believe in any "good energy" "bad energy" thing and that you can pull both. Its one energy used for different things and probably 99% good things. I never heard of people pulling energy from their surrounding to do evil things. I also don't think if you pull it wrong (like taking it from living things or so) will make it evil energy..... its just more likely that it won't properly work and thats what you feel.
Just get the energy from your immidiate surrounding, its everywhere anyway, and it will be fine.
Look at Reiki..... they don't pull it from somewhere and then apply it... they let it channel through them. It should always work like that I think :-)
Quote from: Alaskans on July 29, 2006, 16:56:57
2) Sun energy- 400 trillion plants cant be wrong :-P the sun is the source of life. When you sunbath/meditate imagine it becoming one with your spirit.
For the sake of argument, the discovery of life near sulfur vents on the deep ocean bed supports the theory that a life system can be powered by gravitation tectonic generated heat.
For example, Europa looks like it could be an ocean world covered with a shell of ice. The water ocean is maintained as a liquid because of the heat generated by the tectonic effect of Jupiter's massive gravitational influence.
In this example, a life system could be powered entirely by the gravitational forces of a dark star completely independent of any spectrum of solar radiation.
( I didn't make this up, it's actually a sound and accepted theory)