depression... :(

[Anonymous]

I once went through a depressing moment in my life which lasted for around six months.  It wasn't because of anything really but, it could have been.  What I finally figured out is that everything else doesn't matter and that I shouldn't let emotions overtake me.  Any problems that you have, discard them.  They can be fixed one way or another.  The main goal is to realize that no problem is to great to destroy your happiness.  Once I started living this way nothing bothered me and I have been happy ever since.

[SmileySpirit14]

yea, that does help a lot. but it doesnt help with some problems at all. plz tell me theres another way! is there an easier method to clear ur mind? or a way to erase my memory of stuff???

[Anonymous]

What kind of problems are you having?

Also erasing your memory is not the answer.  All experiences are good in that they teach you a lesson about life and sometimes the afterlife even if they hurt really bad.  Trying to think of them optimistically is the key.  Seeing the good about it really helps.  Plus, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

Also, judging by your bio, you seem to be a very nice and well-rounded girl.  I wish you tons of luck in the future[].

[Nay]

I'm not surprised that you are going thru a 'what the heck' phase.  You are all over the place!!

Let me just say stop, look for answers and let them find YOU.

You remind me of ME..lol.  Ok, that could backfire..[]

Stop.....and do ONE thing.   It's great that you feel you are able to do many things, but you need to focus on ONE thing at a time.

Depression, in my opinion is a natural thing.....it makes you stop,  listen and search..[^]  This "down" time will pass, always does.[^]  atleast it does for me..

Hugs~ Nay

[Fresh]

I agree with Nay.
Sounds like you may have an anxiety thing going on. Try and get a break or holiday somewhere with a change of scenery. More importantly keep reminding yourself that there's plenty of time to learn and practise the energy games thus removing the feelings of anxiety.
I've suffered it twice, once for over a year. I only learned the removal/transendance techniques during the second bout four years ago. Since then I've been fine
Good luck

[James S]

Yes, I too have to go along with Nay here.

What you'll get when you start getting into psychic & metaphysical...umm...stuff (is that the technical term?) is that you'll all of a sudden get your eyes opened to all sorts of possibilities, and you'll feel yourself being pulled in all sorts of directions.

Where you once experienced a kind of euphoria of new gained knowledge and experiences, they rapidly become a jumbled mess, you get confused, don't know which way to turn, then fall in a heap.

Couple of really good things to do are  -
1) Meditate in silence - just sit with your mind clear and uncluttered. Repeat a mantra if needed, just let your mind go blank and get into the habit of being able to do this. It's amazing what your subconscious can bring to light, and how much your higher self can communicate to you when you allow your ming to be calm and quiet.

2) Have a read through Robert Bruces Catch Basket Concept. here's the link:
http://www.astralpulse.com/articles/robert/articles_44.htm

This absolutely worked wonders for me when I tried to deal with new found experiences and concepts while still hanging on to an old belief system. Sometimes you need to pull apart your beliefs and strip them back to the bare essentials, otherwise you end up attaching layer upon layer of new beliefs onto old ones, and end up with such a coonceptual mess, you no longer know what to believe.

Last point - DONT PANIC! these kind of problems have a remarkable habit of sorting themselves out if you allow yourself time to step back and just BE. Don't do, don't think, just be.

All the best,
[]
James.

[french_hustler]

Yall going through your periods or something... man yall gotta stop being depressed... find the reason why and fix it.  Go out and play sports or something... run...have fun... go wit yo patnaz... go party and after a week go back to energizing

[LogoRat]

Its not your meemories that are depressing.
Its you who make up the depression.
SO STOP IT!
Trust in yourself!
Know that you are making it all up, you dont really need to be depressed but you choose too.
If you want to get out of it STOP FEELING SORRY FOR YOURSELF.
Tell yourself to shutup!

Tell yourself to get a grip on who you are and what you want.
Sit down and write on a paper what you want to have right now.
What you want in your life Right now and what you dont want Right NOW.
Then observe the paper and look around you.
Is it the way you want it to be?
No?
Then STOP BEEING DEPRESSSED, because it doesnt help you to be the way you want to be RIGHT NOW.

Stop looking back on your life, stop looking forward, see where you are right now.
Know that what you do right now will reflect your environment.
So if you want other things around you... think differently, act differently.
Depression is not good for you, so STOP DOING IT.
Focus your present moment to get rid of the depression.
And when you do that, trust that when you remove it the learned skill you use to have is still there waiting for you to be used.
You just have to work on removing the depression.
So do it NOW, not tomorrow.

[CaCoDeMoN]

The best thing if you want to stop a depression is to relax listen to music that you like

[SmileySpirit14]

oh gosh....here goes...
follower of the khuli, me a nice well rounded girl. hehehe, ok, if thats what u wanna call it.
nay, i cant do 1 thing. i can feel the potential in me to do anything. all this stuff is so cool. why limit myself to 1 thing?
fresh, ive become MORE silent now that i have taken a break from everything. i hate this place, i hate my home, my family, my location, ect. so i went somewhere and met ppl, blah blah blah, and the most i got out of it was a sunburn[xx(]  lol
james...i'll have to get back on that meditation stuff...my head is too jumbled at the moment
logorat, it wont help to think about what i want my life to be like. it will make me more depressed cuz i know i can never have the life i want. all i'll ever do is want and be sad i cant have a simple little change.
cacodemon, i ficken LOVE evanescense. but i could never listen to her now. i love her music, but her lyrics are kinda gothic. i used to could just listen to it and not think about all the depressing thought going on in her head. im scared if i listen to her now some of those thoughts might sink in. ill just listen to the radio or sumthin then....
i dunno. i'll just get the f*ck over it. just, moving along, goin through life....yeah.

[shaman]

Hey Smiling Spirit,

I am sorry to hear you are having a bad time. On the other side I know that things aren't that easy like that for you, even without being depressed. Sure we all have our highs and lows and there were times I was often depressed. It still happens today, but as I have so many things to do and take care of, it keeps my mind busy away from depressing thoughts. Also I know why I feel like that: it is the frustration of life. Deep inside I wish to enjoy all kind of things, if it is just the sunshine, Nature,  a friend, family, or other things... on the other side the reality is that we cannot do what we want and often life is hitting us hard and our reaction to that comes in the form of depression, or just a bad feeling. But as we all know life goes on. SOme have written books about the "fight" in ourselves. Some see it in a kind of religious way as the battle between evil and Divine. Others see it as the forces in our unconscious fighting the restrictions that the society is putting on us. Other see it as the famous Thelema explation of ourselves. It is the basic nature of being a human : we have our natural tendancy that pushes us to things and the outer world that is restricting us in one way or another. There is collision between these two inside ourselves. Eventually at a given age we have to reached a ballance, an equilibrium between the two without internal confrontation, a harmonious ballance between these two parts. Some philosophers have put it in other words such as "you have to become what you are". Well the first thing when we are young is to find first who we really are in our inner self, and this is done through living our life and on a chaotic road. Once we have found our selves and who we are, we then have to become who we are in harmony with who we can really be. This is the source of all philosophy, litterature (Albert Camus for example), psychology and even relition to some extent. It is also what meditation is trying to reach for. So you are at a chaotic crossing point on that road. Hold on tight. I wish I could help you more, but I can only interact with you on this level of the "virtual world" that is called the internet.

Take care.

[SmileySpirit14]

im always trying to cheer myself up...notice my name, smileyspirit??? i wish...! i see the stress, the pain, anger, ect in my life as a punishment for what i have done in my past life.
i have a theory on life:
there 1nc was never earth, only spirits. when god and satan had a war, all those who followed satan were sent to earth as a 2nd chance to follow god. which is why were all here. so when we die, we get a certain amount of lives to live. (ex, 3 lives) and in those 3 lives if we still dont follow god, we go to hell. so i figured im on my last life and im being put through tough obsticles to test my faith. to see how much i really trust god.
im really trying hard to hang on here.

(im not a lil church freak or nothin: im christian by heart and never go to church.)
of course its just my theory, so whatever.......i know no one really cares. im just rambling on....

[WalkerInTheWoods]

quote:Originally posted by SmileySpirit14

my head is too jumbled at the moment

This is probably a big part of the problem. You let your mind go off and think about whatever it likes. It usually picks a negative outlook. Still your mind, silence all that noise. Behind the constant babble of the mind is a peaceful silence. Find it.

[Anonymous]

Well it seemed like you are nice well-rounded girl but if you say so.

[halfphased]

SmileySpirit,

Wonderful name  There you go.  Create what you are.  Look at how you are creating the pressure of your reality.  You are freaked out that this is your last chance to make it through and that is an enormous weight to have upon your shoulders.  

For me, it is interesting to see in your philosophy that you believe that we have 3 chances to make it into heaven.  That's 2 more than the modern Christian church would allow us.  Well, now I notice that in your post 3 was just an example number.  Why stop at that.  God must be eternal... he has all the time in the world for you and his love is unconditional...  Even those statements are too limiting for what God Is.  But that's just another way of looking at things.  

I have a very uncanny ability to create belief systems and I can tell you from experience that what you believe in goes a long way in determing how you experience life.  Well, I should change those 'you's to 'I's since I can only speak for myself.  That is part of what meditation is about.  It allows you to have direct experience of what others are saying.  When people ask you to sit down and meditate to clear your head, they are asking you to sit down and see the true nature of the "stress, the pain, anger, ect in [your] life"  Once you are able to observe your thoughts and let them be, you will start to see that you have been the one fueling these mind states and that you can control how much fuel you put into them, what kind of fuel you put into them, etc.

Your head may be jumbled, but just note the fact that it is jumbled and allow it to be that way.  You're actually a couple steps ahead there in that you realize what your problem is.  Most people sit down to meditate going "la la la'  "om om om" and then "ohhhhh...." because they are suddenly aware that their heads are more jumbled then they ever realized.  

Be careful though.  If you are going around being depressed and also going around thinking that you should be in a different state of mind then you are going to be creating a lot of tension within yourself.  "I'm depressed, but I should just be able to be happy and joyful.   Ok...  I'm still not happy and joyful and now I'm even more depressed because I should just be able to be the thing I want to be."   Yikes!  Self mutilation is not the way to go.  If you are depressed observe the fact that you are depressed and allow yourself to experience it.  Often we find that we are not the way we would like to be, so we keep running from ourselves trying to get to what we want.  But how can you find happiness outside of yourself?  Running is only going to let you think you are getting away.  Once you are able to look your depression dead in the eye then you will be able to know its nature, shake its hand, say "thank you", and let it be on its way.  hehehe  [][][]

I hope something in there resonates with you Smiley.  Maybe people will see it and be able to expand upon it.  

Peace
-nathan

[LogoRat]

Smiley: What are you depressed about really?

[kiauma]

"Depression is a constipated rhino that sits on your chest."
~Zool

[shaman]

Any person who is very sensitive and intelligent will eventually, at one time or another, end up being depressed in his/her life. Because it is the society and the world around us that is imposing restrictions on us that drives us down into a kind of depression like mood. It is part of the learning in this life. Hopefully it usually does not last for long and happens when we are rather young (late teens to early 20s). Then of course it can happen again later on and it is disguised then as the famous mid-life crisis.

Is there someone on this board who can claim that he/she never felt DOWN? never felt a little depressed? Just need to cheer up a little. Give a smile! That's already better....

[]

[LogoRat]

feeling sad and down is not the same thing as depression.
Depression is when you are so down that you cant do anything except cry and feel unhappy every second.

One thing that each person should know is WHY the feel down and sad.

Most people that say they are depressed cant say why they are that way, only say "im depressed buhuuuuhuuuhuuu"

Depression can be used to understand some stuff, but in order to use it you need to understand why you have it.

If you dont know why, figure out why and DEAL WITH IT.
Instead of just sit in a corner and feel sorry for yourself.

If you dont want to be depressed, Analyze why you are really deep down and try to figure out how to deal with it instead of you beeing passive feeling sorry for yourself.

If you need depression, then you should know why and learn from it.
But have a controlled way of dealing with it.

[capelli]

Remember patience is a virtue and being young is hard I once went 2 months without speaking to anyone at school except teachers.
Back then I had times where I was put at a stand-still and as I look back the reason was I had no proper instruction in these matters.  Which if you are on this site you apparantly do have a way to get proper instruction.  But my advice is that you should think about what you where doing before and maybe consider if that is the right path for you.  Knowledge and wisdom come at a higher price than one would think.
     I am not trying to talk down or say anything to be discouraging but after 12 years on the same road you travel I can look back and one thought resounds.
    Don't take it so seriously, there are many aspects of life, and even if you never remember what you knew before there is always a way to learn.  So if your path led you there try another and be happy to be an intelligent person.  Just relax and be your self and don't get bothered if it doesn't all come at once because it never does.

"suddenly great leaps and bounds seem to happen" S. P.

That doesn't mean it doesn't take years of study, though.
I have alot of the same ideas I had 12 years ago but my understanding of those ideas has changed drastically.

 So cheer up, and I hope you get to feeling better
Make positive statements, instead of []I'm will-powerless
try thinking in a way that says, I have not mastered my will yet, but I do have will power,

[capelli]

I havn't read all the replies but forgive me for being curt. why not just answer her question?  The key is to learn how to relax and calm yourself it takes a lot of will power to force some thoughts away. Think positive, when you are  not overwhelmed by the thoughts and when they come upon you reject them, in other words you don't like the thoughts that's good enough just think (I don't want to think that) and then,  to learn to relax just think about your breathing, or remember things you like the things that make you happy.
Expand your horizon of interests.  Instead of dwelling on what you cannot do practice what you can do and remember it takes time to do any- thing.
Find other hobbies to help get your mind out of the rut and by far remember the world is a big place and contains many more wonders than any of us imagine.

You do remind me of myself at a younger age as well you probably remind everyone who posted of themselves.
 So if this is such a common problem, just relax it will pass and when it does your way of thinking will most undoubtedly change also, it is just hard to see because it happens gradually.  One day you'll look back on how you feel now and it won't make sense because you will be in another place along the path of your journey through life.
    It is late and I drank too much beer so I'll leave the advice to the replies I havn't read yet.[:I]

[SmileySpirit14]

hey yall...i think this goes here...
well for like 2 weeks ive been pretty much depressed...ive been DEAD silent.,i was progressing in everything lightning fast(healing, tk, ki, ect)...but now, i just remembered about it. i put it off without even realizing it. now i cant get my mind to snap back. my mind is full of bad depressing thoughts and i cant and wont practise anything i used to do. my head wont let me., [!][] im will-powerless. i keep telling myself otherwise, but deep down i saying 'shut the f... up' to me.i dont know how to focus, and now im DE-progressing. i need help asap or i might not ever get theses abilities back...please help.