Apologizing.

[Nagual]

Nayru, kids are just... kids.  Most dbzers are like 13-15 years old boys; you shouldn't expect them to act as adults...  15 years ago, I was just like them, dreaming of being a super-hero with mega powers...  except that I kept my dreams for myself instead of showing off and that I was maybe less aggressive than some of the kids here.

Hum... enough talking of me!  []
Maybe they should re-label the thread names...

PS: But sometimes I am a little scared to see some 15 years old "masters" teaching energy work to other kids... [:O]

[Nayru]

I'm 16 years old, 17 in one month. And as far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not the what we call 'dbzer'. It has nothing to do with age. I know a 18-year old guy still believing he can blow up cars. And when I say know, I mean personally know.

[shadowdancer]

Namaste,
    thanks for the heartfelt post Nayru.  maybe it is because i am older, i have become a bit hardened to the levels of suffering that must occur within a childs psyche in order for those fantasmagorical realms of power to be taken as a reality.  or maybe it is because i have lived through a childhood of abuse and feelings of powerlessness that i am severe in my tolerance of arrogance and ignorance....my heart tells me a bit of both.  i agree with you Nayru, that age does not really matter.  But then again, i believe in reincarnation, so for me, the body of a 12 year old girl could contain the soul of a very high person from a previous incarnation....bit of a tangent but i hope i am understood.  problems, problems....my view has changed from outrage and severity, (which i expressed consciously and, to the best of my ability, with a judiciousness of emotive energy) that i have seen create a space for new energy blossom here.  LightLizard has blessed us here with his presence and knowledge, and others who don't usually check this area out have posted some insightful replies.  As for those kids that want to stay where they are, they do need space to be there, and I am happy to let them have the energy forum to post as much silliness as they want to []  But it has been decreed that the Energy Body Forum is for just that.  Its rough because i was personally excited to see people of all age groups working to fuse the knowledge of the ancients with the imagination of 21st century peoples.  With that said, it is my opinion that from this point forward, those of us who cherish body arts and energy work, as a community, take the necessary action and SET BOUNDARIES.  when it is seen that someone has posted information that is- misinformed, erroneous, plain lying, or anything that could be interpreted as having been taken from japanese anime shows(without the ability and willingness to EXTENSIVELY discuss and back up with SCIENTIFIC DATA) a technique or opinion regarding energy manipulation); they should be politely but firmly directed to the Energy Forum.  i am happy with Astral Pulse.  Very glad i found this space on the net and i will definitely take some time and energy to help fortify a little niche here for bodyworkers.  Namaste, shadowdancer

[shadowdancer]

Namaste,
    My partner would like to thank you Nayru for reminding us all why it is, such much so today, such an imerperative that we continue to communicate to the younger generation in a spirit of openness and lovingness.  She wanted to say that you are a beautiful example of the realities that young people can, and do, embody important wisdoms.  Namaste

[Nagual]

quote:It has nothing to do with age.

Nayru, that's why I said "most" and not "all"...  Also, notice that I used "boys" too  [][]

[Nayru]

Thank you very much for your replies, Shadowdancer.

Nagual, yes I know, but I was pointing out that it has very few to do with age.

[Nayru]

This thread is to clarify why I have been so impatient with the what Shadowndancer calls 'immature liars club' (thus, 'dbzers') lately, if anyone cares. I feel I owe some people here an apology.

When I first came to this board, I saw this very rare combination of psions and tradchi-ers (the serious kind of Chi-practicers) and the less serious; the what people call 'dbzers' (the radki-ers). I saw no fights and no arguements between the two, or barely. The 'dbzer-level-of-stupidity' was not that 'high': Most threads were actually worth reading and discussing. I registered, hoping I could help people, get helped myself when I needed it, meet nice people, learn new things, have discussions, etc.

I came here almost everyday. Until I noticed an increase of worthless and pathetic threads in the forum that is now called 'Energy forum'. Threads that are not worth my time, threads that have absolutely no point, threads that are not worth discussing, no; can't BE discussed, threads containing questions that have been asked 1001 times before, and more crap like that. You probably all have noticed that I am mostly to be found in the Energyforum. This is simply because I want to try and help people, people who have started on the wrong place, with wrong persons and the wrong information; people that are usually flamed on boards when they ask their questions. They can't do anything about it, they have just been malinformed. Unfortunately, few of the Psionic/TradChicommunity seems to realize this. Instead of trying to help, they flame.

I usually am very, very patient. I am trying to actually mean something to other people around, and this takes a lot of time. A lot, although the results are not always satisfying - make that rarely. I do not teach, I think I'm not advanced/experienced enough to teach people, I've been only doing Psionics for somewhat more than one year, and besides, teaching is a lot of work, and for now I better use that time with my own development and training.

Awhile ago, something popped, cracked in my mind. I couldn't stand the useless discussions I've been having with the what people call 'dbzers', discussions I've been having for one year, day after day, night after night, on MSN, AOL, ICQ, on boards, PM's, IRC, you name it. You 'dbzers' are so.. Ignorant, and a lot are arrogant. You're ruining your life. I am convinced that deep down, all of you know that most of what you claim to be able to do, is not true. But you're denying that to yourself, you're lying to yourself and to the rest of the world, and continuing to live in your self-created dreamworld. In a dreamworld where only one rule counts: the gain of power and might: the desire to be able to kill, hurt or destroy without physically touching somebody/something, the feeling of need of personal gain in everything you do. It's a dreamworld that desillusionates you from the truth, the real truth, from the beauty of Energymanipulation, from the ideas behind it. Once you will be ripped away from that dreamworld, ripped out of it, and all of a sudden, taken back to the truth. And if you're not, you have lost everything that is worth living for. If you deny the truth, you deny yourself. You're forgetting one thing and that is that Energymanipulation is all based on being one with your spirit, mind, with your surroundings, with everything. Energymanipulation is not just 'drawing in Chi and using it for a kamehemahe', it's something far more deep than that. I can't possibly explain what it is, and even if I could I wouldn't do that: That's something everyone should discover and experience themselves.

I hope some of you guys here, and everyone reading this, will now understand why I am trying so hard to talk some sense in them. I do not have any excuse for this 'mind-crack-thingy', so I just apologize to everyone I have insulted with my words. This apology namely goes to Neo. I'm sorry.

With love,
~Nayru.

P.S. If I actually managed to insult anyone with this thread, that was not my intention at all, and I also apologize for any insults this thread may contain.