Seeing through eyelids?

jilola · February 28, 2003, 17:20:50

One of two things may have happened. Either it was astral vision in which case next time it happens try to develop it into a full blown obe or it was your physical eyes opening without yopu realizing it.
Both have happened to me a couple of times. The physical eyes opening is neat because it shows how much there is of ourselves that we normally don't pay any attention to.
One would think that the state of something s obvious as one's eyelids would be a clear cut case.

By the way, was the perspective consistent with your physical posture?

2cents & L&L
jouni

panabelle · February 28, 2003, 17:35:58

Yes, the things I could see changed as I moved.

And I opened my eyes for real after about a minute of it (was getting a little creeped out) so I know that wasn't it.

I don't WANT a full OBE, I want to have it help me with energy development. Or telekinesis. Either one would work. [|)]

jerry34 · February 28, 2003, 17:56:57

i do it almost every nite. try to take it to a place that you know . then see if everything looks the same or if it has changed .time should change it a little if not it is just memory recall try it .it does change the ?

panabelle · February 28, 2003, 18:30:17

What? I can't "take" it anywhere; I can just see from where I am. If it happens again I guess I'll try it.

kakkarot · February 28, 2003, 19:06:30

it might be that the very bottom of your eyes, where the eyelids close, is lightly open. this could cause you to think they were closed when they are really slightly open. the next time it happens try looking downward and seeing if this is the case.

~kakkarot

Parmenion · March 01, 2003, 04:05:45

It definately sounds to me that you were seeing through closed eyelids ~astral eyes, real time sight, whatever you want to call it. This started happening to me a couple of weeks before my first concious OBE.You say you have no interest in AP and allthough i cant understand why, thats your perogative. Dont let this freak you out though, enjoy it instead.Next time it happens see if you can look in different directions without moving your head.You should be able to, though for me it was not quite as clear as looking straight forward.

Parmenion

panabelle · March 02, 2003, 18:15:46

Acutally, Kakkarot, that's what I thought too. But it happened again last night and I touched my eyes with my hand to make sure they were all the way closed (they were).

So basically it could help me with AP but otherwise it's just some cool weird little thing?

kakkarot · March 05, 2003, 16:49:59

k, cool. i get something like that too. when i close my eyes completely and relax my mind and my body, i sometimes try to see by forgetting that my eyes are closed. i usually get only vague impressions of large objects, but hey, that's better than nothing, right?

don't know how it would hep with ap'ing though.

~kakkarot

panabelle · February 28, 2003, 17:13:58

Ok, I need somebody to tell me what the heck happened.

I was lying in bed, before going to sleep, practicing just feeling energy and stuff like that. Anyway, all of a sudden, I noticed that I could see the corner of my bed that I would be looking at if my eyes were open. But they were closed. I sat up (eyes still closed) and looked around the room. I could see everything almost as clearly as if I had my eyes open (which is not particularly clearly because I am horribly nearsighted, but I could still make out objects). I have had this sort of experience before, but that was before I even knew about energy.

Someone else once told me that I was opening my astral eyes. That might be it (it felt like my eyes were open) but when I sat up, my physical body was definitely fully connected (and I hope it stays that way! AP kinda creeps me out).

Any ideas as to what happened? Is it good? Can it help my energy development?

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