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Title: ki pictures
Post by: ssjoku on January 31, 2003, 21:21:42
the reason why i did it in the dark is so that you people could see it clearly
Title: ki pictures
Post by: kakkarot on January 31, 2003, 22:00:58
wow.

but i dunno, just like with what you said about psipog, that could have been done in photoshop ... no, i don't really believe that you did it in photoshop. i'm not 100% convinced it is real, since it could have been done in photoshop, but i am about as convinced as i am for any other picture i have seen, because i trust you.

if you say it's real, then i'm willing to believe it. after all, i've seen enough in my life that your pic could be real. which is the reason why i don't instantly believe or disbelieve anything without proof. after all, not many of us have a way of proving the things we say on these forums, so we just have to trust one another.

(skeptic: but if you trust each other, why not use your real names?
me: that's just in case the government comes looking. [:P])

thanks for the contribution.

~kakkarot
Title: ki pictures
Post by: fredhedd on January 31, 2003, 22:31:36
that's a good picture.  i'm assuming it looks like that w/out the camera as well.  is that right?  have you shown anyone else that, in person?
Title: ki pictures
Post by: MJ-12 on January 31, 2003, 22:35:32
bv
Title: ki pictures
Post by: ssjoku on January 31, 2003, 22:41:10
it is real
what is photoshop?
Title: ki pictures
Post by: auraseer on February 01, 2003, 06:05:32
Hi,
This is going to turn out like the topic on my forum. They said my pics are fake when they aren't.

I believe that the picture is real, because I know myself about how Ki shows up on camera (ki ball pictures topic).

Cya,
auraseer.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: Adrian on February 01, 2003, 06:24:55
Greetings Everyone,

I would like to make the observation that digital caemera's, which after all are a fairly recent innovation, do appear to capture images from the etheric zone at least. There have been numerous examples of Orbs being photographed this way, as well as other energetic phenomena.

To demonstrate the point, here is a photograph of a scene, in which several Orbs also appear.

(http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/membersimages/ZufoOrbs.jpg)

With best regards,

Adrian.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: auraseer on February 01, 2003, 09:17:46
Hi,
Wow... Thanks for proving this stuff Adrian.

Cya,
auraseer.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: Squeek on February 01, 2003, 11:03:04
Well, i can answer two questions right now!

One: Photoshop is a photo-editing software.

Two: I went to MY editing software and did a ttal rundown of the picture, and i could find to proof that it was doctored in anyway... I reversed the colors, added color to the ball, and blurred, and sharpened, and anything i could do.  If anything, it proved it more...
Title: ki pictures
Post by: ssjoku on February 01, 2003, 11:21:25
that picture of my is a fake i made it my self look(//forums/uploaded/ssjoku/kipoop.jpg)


(//forums/uploaded/ssjoku/kip.jpg)

all i did was take a picture of my speeker light in the dark thats what you can do with technoligy
Title: ki pictures
Post by: ssjoku on February 01, 2003, 16:08:29
ill show you guys that levitating is not real ill do the same thing that one guy did in that one movie
Title: ki pictures
Post by: kakkarot on February 01, 2003, 16:20:19
you don't need to bother, we already know the trick.

you stand at a 45degree horizontal angle so that people can see one foot but the other foot is hidden by the one they can see. make sure their eyes are about the height of yours, then lift yourself up on the foot that the people can't see.

~kakkarot
Title: ki pictures
Post by: Fat_Turkey on February 01, 2003, 16:25:04
Adrian, with all due respect, I'd just like to know where you got that photo? Looks pretty fake to me. I've seen etheric orbs floating around on their own before and they usually are covered in a kind of smoke. See a picture of your typical swirling Japanese ghost for an idea (the eye of the ghost is the orb, the body of the ghost is the smoke).

And that really is easy to believe to the modern ki practitioner. The lack of information on websites leads some energy practitioners to believe that ki is green, and nothing else (see UnderGround Society webpage), and although it looks really cool, I noticed that it gave off light. Energy (whatever you want to call it, ki, chi, psi, etc.) doesn't give off light, but the pic was glowing. That's a main sign that things have been doctored.

Anyways good job with the hoax. Tell me about your halloween pranks [:P].

Later
-FT
Title: ki pictures
Post by: ssjoku on February 01, 2003, 17:06:43
ok then i wont
Title: ki pictures
Post by: Adrian on February 01, 2003, 17:24:14
Greetings!

The orbs photograph was sent to me by a friend in Canada who I can trust completely.

In addition, I have been sent several seperate digital photographs of orbs by totally different people, in totally different situations. The orbs often appear on family photo's e.g. taken at thanksgiving.

All the orb photo's I have seen have been very similar indeed, and no way IMO they can all be fake.

Orbs can indeed appear to be "smokey" or "wispy" as well, but most commonly they appear as per the photo. It would seem that digital photography is capable of capturing the image of beings in the Etheric plane closest to the physical.

"Ghosts" usually manifest in a different way - usually in places with high concentrations of ectoplasm. Ectoplasm tends to build up over the years to higher and higher concentrations - it is "secreted" by living people. That is why you tend to see most instances of "ghost" sightings in old buildings that have been inabited for hundreds fo years, and also in places where many people gather - most notably theatres, libraries etc. - hence the "phantom of the opera" and all that [:)]

Materialisation mediums can also be used by souls in the mid to lower Astral by extruding ectoplasm from the medium to either manifest partially or completely - e.g. just a hand or arm - or to use as an etheric voicebox for the "direct voice" medium. In the latter case, the Astral being extrudes ectoplasm connected to the throat chakra of the medium, and that is how the voice from the "other side" is generated.

Orbs, and energetic photographs are not ectoplasmic however, I think that digital photography has the speed and resolution to capture the images in the ether.

With best regards,

Adrian.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: ssjoku on February 01, 2003, 17:40:59
adrian that picture is fake

because us canadians are very smart
Title: ki pictures
Post by: Risu no Kairu on February 01, 2003, 20:05:58
Actually, digital cameras aren't the best to go ghost hunting with. A lot of those 'orb' pics that digital cameras seem to take so easily is just dust. Digital cameras are really bad and picking up dust. You may not see the dust, and a regular camera may not pick up the dust, but digital cameras and dust become an orb fest.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: ssjoku on February 01, 2003, 20:14:54
that is true because when the light leaves the camera it hits the dust it makes the image of and orb
Title: ki pictures
Post by: kakkarot on February 01, 2003, 20:47:57
tsk tsk, ssjoku, not all canadians are smart. i've heard a canadian grade 12 physics student ask "which is closer: the moon or the nearest star, not including the sun?" i mean, come on. i could see the first half of the question for someone who was just completely out of touch, but to NOT include our sun? *rolls eyes*.

nationality does not create iq.

~kakkarot
Title: ki pictures
Post by: ssjoku on February 01, 2003, 21:20:08
i know not all canadians are smart
Title: ki pictures
Post by: auraseer on February 02, 2003, 04:04:49
Hi,
C'mon guys, give Adrian some slack. He has had many years of experience with this stuff, probably more than you. So why would he post a picture that the 'orbs' are of dust? Don't you think he would of figured that out by now?

Cya,
auraseer.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: ssjoku on February 04, 2003, 13:44:51
auraseer how is your trianing going what is your power level



            LMAO
Title: ki pictures
Post by: Squeek on February 04, 2003, 14:14:57
That's not nice..........Insert more [:P]
Title: ki pictures
Post by: ssjoku on February 04, 2003, 14:38:14
thats not mean i just ask how his trianing going




LMAO
Title: ki pictures
Post by: PeacefulWarrior on February 04, 2003, 14:58:15
I simply cannot understand the seeming obsession over these things...

It reminds me of a sotry that Paramahansa Yogananda told of a master in India who could do all kinds of little "miracles", ie. make things appear, make scents, etc.  In the end he was shunned by the true masters who didn't see any real good, practical, useful spiritual truths being taught to the followers.  It's more carnivalesque than anything else...and really a dangerous waste of time and resources.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: kifyre on February 04, 2003, 15:45:34
quote:
Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior

I simply cannot understand the seeming obsession over these things...

It reminds me of a sotry that Paramahansa Yogananda told of a master in India who could do all kinds of little "miracles", ie. make things appear, make scents, etc.  In the end he was shunned by the true masters who didn't see any real good, practical, useful spiritual truths being taught to the followers.  It's more carnivalesque than anything else...and really a dangerous waste of time and resources.



You are using this forum because people were fascinated by trivial little things like static electricity and magnets. They just wanted to play and learn. Perhaps something beyond the physical gives meaning to our play, and certainly much turns out to be fantasy or "useless." But who are you to judge?

Carnivalesque? The only reason so-called spiritual or transcendent truths have any meaning to us at all is because they "down-shift" into the physical or at least our minds! Only by affecting our inner and outer realities does anything happen at all.

If someone can lift fifteen feet off the ground with the power of her mind, I'm going to take notice. Whether or not that has anything to do with "spiritual growth" remains to be seen. But they know something I don't, and it's transphysical--a step in the right direction. Results, not words. Experiencing, not believing.

All the best,

Mark
Title: ki pictures
Post by: Adrian on February 04, 2003, 15:55:10
Greetings Auraseer!

quote:
Originally posted by auraseer

Hi,
C'mon guys, give Adrian some slack. He has had many years of experience with this stuff, probably more than you. So why would he post a picture that the 'orbs' are of dust? Don't you think he would of figured that out by now?

Cya,
auraseer.



Thanks for your vote of confidence [:)]

I trust the person who submitted that photograph competely. He also happens to be an expert on photography as well as other things, and would never send anything that was not genuine.

A couple of followup comments. I have seen numerous pictures of orbs in various places as well as some that have been sent to me - and they are remarkably consistent in characteristics.

If it was dust on the lens of the camera, then the orbs would appear in the same place on each exposure. I have seen a series of orb photographs all taken with the same camera at the same time, and the orbs vary in position on the exposure and size as well as number.

With best regards,

Adrian.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: Risu no Kairu on February 04, 2003, 22:12:08
Because we all know that dust floating through the air stays in one place.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: MJ-12 on February 04, 2003, 22:57:08
vd
Title: ki pictures
Post by: ssjoku on February 05, 2003, 13:08:42
the light from the camera reflect off the dust

like a flash light hitting a mirror and bounes off the mirror
Title: ki pictures
Post by: Risu no Kairu on February 05, 2003, 14:06:16
I never said that the orbs in that particular photo were dust particles. I didn't say that all orbs are dust particle. I merely stated that it is more likely to get false results with a digital camera.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: MJ-12 on February 05, 2003, 14:54:02
vdz
Title: ki pictures
Post by: Anonymous on February 05, 2003, 19:16:49
How to fly: Throw yourself at the ground and miss[B)].

Energy captured on camera: My eyes are 10/20. That means that I have REALLY good vision. Now, if I could just focus on raising my energy, maybe I wouldn't need a camera to see all the energy around me? I went to someone's post and they described ki energy as being like "yellow snow" and I have been able to see it as long as I can remember. I don't know. Maybe as children we were able to see energy and got afraid at night because we thought it was monsters or something. Then over time our brains developed filtration systems to keep us from knowing what we were seeing out of fear? It's just a thought.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: Anonymous on February 05, 2003, 19:52:19
The only way we can truly prove the existence of ki and other related things is to experience them for ourselves. No matter how trustworthy a person might be, how will you ever know for sure if you can't see it with your own eyes? Think about it this way: If the orbs in Adrian's picture are real, then think about how fast they are/were moving. Maybe we can see them but our brain's filtration system tells us to ignore them because they are all around us. Sometimes when I look up at the blue sky I see teeny tiny things moving around, and each one of them seems to give off a different color of light; now it could be bacteria in front of my pupils (but so diverse in species?), and maybe it is more than that. I am working on trying to determine which it is. Trouble is, where do you find the time to lie down in the grass for a couple hours? I have to try different things.

Isn't part of the reason for this site because science can't prove everything? Maybe using digital cameras is a good idea and maybe it isn't. By using digital cameras, we resort to science, do we not? We resort to the use of technology to prove such things that are seemingly beyond it. There is a missing piece to the puzzle here, a missing link between the digital cameras and understanding ki energy. I've felt a qi energy field before, emitted by my kung fu teacher- It's like a magnet, it seemed to repel my body. There are different sensations of qi, including static electricity, heat, tingling, and there are others. If you have felt it, who's to say it doesn't exist? I admit I can't prove to you it exists, but you can prove it to yourself, and I think that is the goal here. Don't believe everything you read, hear, or see. But if a variety of different sources give you the same results, then there's good reason to believe. We should train our eyes to see such things, I think that's a good idea. Hey another idea just came to mind: What if you synchronized the picture-taking using several different cameras? Take multiple pictures at the same time. There is always a possibility that someone could use photoshop to do this, but even so, if you have good reason to trust the people taking the pictures and you KNOW they would never do anything like that to you, then maybe it isn't so dangerous to trust them.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: kakkarot on February 05, 2003, 19:54:42
actually, having 10/20 vision means that one of your eyes is far sighted and the other is "perfect".

my eyes are like 250+/250+. so i need my glasses if i want to use my eyesight[|)]. ohwell.[:)]

~kakkarot
Title: ki pictures
Post by: panabelle on February 06, 2003, 15:00:18
Yeah, I have quater inch thick glasses too. [:(] Oh well. While we're on the topic though, I know Ki (Qi? Chi? Whatever) can heal wounds, but can it fix things like eyesight?

Sorry to wander so far from the topic, but these glasses are the bane of my existence and I loathe them! (Can't wear contacts, eye doctor mumbles through some scientific explanation and my mom believes him.)
Title: ki pictures
Post by: kakkarot on February 06, 2003, 15:52:48
there are so many possible reasons why bad eye sight occurs, all having to do with the shape of the eye, that some of the shapes just can't be corrected with contacts.

whether chi can heal bad eyesight is a question up for debate, and an experiment that many with bad eyesight are trying to perform.

i've only heard of miniscule results over long times so far. anyone else heard different?

~kakkarot
Title: ki pictures
Post by: ssjoku on February 06, 2003, 16:19:21
does powering up makes wind
Title: ki pictures
Post by: Anonymous on February 06, 2003, 17:36:28
One of my friends has a grandmother who practiced Tai Chi and healed her husband's eyesight using qi energy. That is the only case I have heard of though and I am not sure how much they were healed.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: auraseer on February 07, 2003, 11:23:17
Hi,
I also wear glasses, but not anymore. I use Ki healing and some NEW on each eyeball every night, and since I started it, I have noticed a great improvement in my eyesight. When I couldn't see the writing on the blackboard (which is about 6 feet away from where I sit), I started to do healing on them. Now I can see the writing from about 4 feet, so it is an improvement of 2 feet, which is better than nothing [:D]. It is still a bit blurred, but I can just make it out.

ssjoku: Sometimes, but only if you practice with aerokinesis(the control of air and wind) in your Ki training.

Cya,
auraseer.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: Squeek on February 07, 2003, 23:23:15
Whee

As long as we are talking about eyesight under the ki pictures topic i'll discuss my sitchiation (cool xpelling eh?)  

Since i was in the 1st grade I have needed glasses that were thicker than ANYBODY elses.  In 8th grade I got contacts. I think the prescription was -5.75 and -6 (yes negative!)  Pretty poor eh?  Yea i know...

Anyway in like November 2002 (three years after contacts) My eyes started to hate me.  I had and infection in the left eye which somehow spread to the right eye.  After 5 different kinds of prescriptions the problem remains and Ms. Doctor has no idea what the problem is or how to fix it.  Today, I woke up and my eye was blood red.  This is starting to really tick me off!  As a future engineer I feel the need to fix broken things, and this is one thing i cant fix which kills me....  My eye still hurts and there's pretty much no logical explanation.

So, there is a way to attempt to help myself?  I'll seriously try anything, because these eye drops just arent working, and I'm starting to get webbed toes :p

Sorry that was so long...thot I'd explain some more about little old me...

~Squeek (in pain :(!)
Title: ki pictures
Post by: auraseer on February 08, 2003, 03:34:58
Hi,
Squeek: Do what I do. Try some NEW one them and some Ki healing every night before you go to bed. Put your palm in front of your eyeball and visualize pure white energy flowing out of your palm and covering your eyeball (behind and in all the nooks and cranny's [:P]). And the NEW healing is when you wrap a white energy bandage round your eyeball, covering it completely. Visualize black energy with red streaks in it flowing out of your eye and getting absorbed by the bandage. Visualize you throwing the bandage away and applying a new one. Do this about 5 times on each eyeball.

Hope this helps.

Cya,
auraseer.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: panabelle on February 08, 2003, 16:37:26
Thanks for the info, Auraseer!
Yeah, I'm in eighth grade and my prescription is exactly the same as yours, Squeek.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: hashpuppet on February 10, 2003, 20:33:57
First of all to auraseer I wanna say, your an idiot and I hope your fat butt dies for being so pathetic. I saw all the videos on your site and each one of them is clearly fake. I'm really trying to believe in ki but its assholes like you who ruin it for people like me. Second of all, regarding the photo with the 10 balls. If you look carefully, on the bottom of each one of them is a streak like fade which resembles something like a cartoon picture of a baseball being thrown with the little fade showing that its moving. If you look even closer, you can see that its the same angle for every one of those which is how those little balls would look if made with tools on photoshop if you're an amateur, and there is even one on the ground, I gotta say I'm about 98 percent sure this picture was computer engineered, and whoever did it is really bad at it.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: ssjoku on February 11, 2003, 14:11:23
my diarrhea smells
Title: ki pictures
Post by: panabelle on February 11, 2003, 14:22:21
Ssjoku, I thought you said you were going to stop making fun of us. If you want us to like you, you're doing a really bad job of it.

Hashpuppet and Auraseer - Hate to say it, but the photos/videos are a bit inconclusive. If you could train up a bit more and really give us something that will knock our socks off, that would probably convince the skeptics a little bit more.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: hashpuppet on February 11, 2003, 14:35:20
I truly believe in Ki, but I have a knowledge of photo and videoediting and its clear that all of it is fake.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: panabelle on February 11, 2003, 14:38:09
Maybe, maybe not. I think that Auraseer is the only one who can really say that.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: hashpuppet on February 11, 2003, 14:43:07
No he isnt, i could make a bunch of flashy lights go off to and say its ki, but you would have to be a real dumbass no not be able to plainly say its fake. And theres enough evidence in the levitation video to tell that his videos are fake. Im sure his friend is the one "levitating" and if you look closely the toes on his right foot dont move, which is how your supposed to do the levitating trick. You have to look really close but they dont move.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: panabelle on February 11, 2003, 14:50:15
Yes, I could say it's fake. But I'm not 100% sure.
You keep saying it's flashing lights etcetera etcetera. Auraseer is thirteen years old and practices in secret from the rest of his family. Do you think he would be able to get all those lights and tings in secret? And I'm SURE that he hasd professional editing software too...

But I must admit I need more evidence for the levitation...
Title: ki pictures
Post by: hashpuppet on February 11, 2003, 14:52:45
you must be pretty young to say something like that. First of all, he prolly did one of two things for the lights, he added the lights as an effect by using video editing which does not need real life lights, or he had a light coming from his computer which filled up the room, hes always next to it if u can tell.

And proffessional video software is free and easy to get, anybody can get it.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: panabelle on February 11, 2003, 15:07:37
Insert Ok, ok. You've made your point. He probably did doctor those photos and I'm just mindlessly defending him because we're the same age.

But hear me out, ok? Are you absolutely 100% positive that he faked it? What if he tried to record himself powering up, didn't get much response, and decided to fix 'em up a little?

There's definitely a possibility that he can't do Ki at all, but I for one am going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: hashpuppet on February 11, 2003, 15:11:36
Put it this way, even in court where they have to prove things without a reasonable doubt, 95 percent will get you convicted, and im 99 percent sure everything there is mindlessly doctored. If you look at the powerup video, it seems so incredibly fake, it changes colors and he does a dbz thing at the end where he pretends like he has bigger muscles or something, and in te handblast all the light is coming from in front of him by the computer and nothing is happening to his hand.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: panabelle on February 11, 2003, 15:33:09
Ok, so you know it's fake. Even so, do you know if HE knows it's not real? He may honestly think something happened.

And court has nothing to do with Ki.

But in the future Auraseer, it doesn't exactly help to look like a DBZ person while trying to prove Ki exists. [:D]
Title: ki pictures
Post by: hashpuppet on February 11, 2003, 15:39:45
Put it this way, even in court where they have to prove things without a reasonable doubt, 95 percent will get you convicted, and im 99 percent sure everything there is mindlessly doctored. If you look at the powerup video, it seems so incredibly fake, it changes colors and he does a dbz thing at the end where he pretends like he has bigger muscles or something, and in te handblast all the light is coming from in front of him by the computer and nothing is happening to his hand.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: panabelle on February 11, 2003, 15:52:13
Yes, I understood the first time.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: auraseer on February 12, 2003, 11:39:24
Hi,
Just to let you know, hashpuppet, I have no good image editing software. The best thing I can draw is a stick man. I have no point to edit my videos, so why would I waste my time on it?

I AM 13!! HOW AM I ABLE TO DO THAT KIND OF EDITING!!!!???

No, I have no fancy lighting. The aim of my videos is to convince skeptics. Don't you think I was suprised when it showed up? I was only testing my camera in the Ki flame picture, and that showed up. I then experimented and did all the other videos.

I can do this stuff, as many people will tell you. I have sent Ki to people in the USA over the Aol Instant Messenger. They actually felt it going into their tan tien. One person made his first Ki ball with my Ki. Now don't you think that is what makes me happy? Helping people, not making fake videos! Ok...Im starting to get mad now. I rarely lose my temper, but you lot have managed it somehow.

I do have a Ki dash video, and you are the first people to know about it. I have it on my computer and I will upload it to the file library after posting this (in the misc. section). The speed I moved in it is very fast. So fast you see a blur half way between places. I am not sure whether this is down to my speed training, or just Ki training. Ill see what you lot think about it.

DBZ is based on radical Ki (the type of Ki with lots of techniques that I train with), so infact it is DBZ copying the radical Ki practitioners out there.

I hope you take this into account, and have a long hard think.

Cya,
auraseer.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: hashpuppet on February 12, 2003, 12:56:43
im sorry but your really stupid, its all just colors or nothing at all. Stop faking.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: hashpuppet on February 12, 2003, 13:00:17
as for the ki ball thing, i dont believe you but the only way you can prove to me you're not lying is by sending me ki over aim or whatever, i really doubt u can do that but theres only one way to make sure.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: auraseer on February 12, 2003, 13:51:18
Hi,
Yes, i'd gladly send you Ki over the Aol Instant Messenger. My screen name is 'kimaster1989' without the quote marks.

Im on from 6:30pm-8:00pm GMT.

Cya,
auraseer.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: auraseer on February 12, 2003, 13:59:07
Hi,
Here is a conversation I had with somebody over AIM:

kimaster1989: Want me to send u energy to train with?
Glennfoshizzle: u can do that
kimaster1989: itl only last for about 5 mins though
kimaster1989: yes. through the earth
Glennfoshizzle: what will i do with it
kimaster1989: you could train
kimaster1989: or just for experience
Glennfoshizzle: make a ki ball with it
Glennfoshizzle: do i have to use the energy now as soon as u send it
kimaster1989: sit down and relax
Glennfoshizzle: k
kimaster1989: no, itl last for 5 mins when I tell you
Glennfoshizzle: k
kimaster1989: im sending...now
kimaster1989: feel tingling or anything yet?
kimaster1989: tell me when
Glennfoshizzle: tingly now
kimaster1989: k
kimaster1989: now
kimaster1989: do a Ki ball
kimaster1989: does it feel good? :-D
Glennfoshizzle: warm and tingly..i never felt nothing like that
kimaster1989: 8-)
Glennfoshizzle: nice

-
Cya,
auraseer.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: ssjoku on February 12, 2003, 13:59:19
auraseer can you post those pictures up or what ever you where going to send to that hashpuppet
Title: ki pictures
Post by: panabelle on February 12, 2003, 16:18:48
Ok, Auraseer, you've roused my curiousity. What do I have to tell you for you to "send" me some of your Ki?
Title: ki pictures
Post by: kakkarot on February 12, 2003, 17:25:55
perfect experiment.

first, auraseer (first party) can send people (second party) energy. the exact time of the sending would be known to the first party and to third party (such as myself, or someone not involved in the experiment in any other way) but not to the second. the second party would be told an approximate time in between which the energy would be sent, ie between 5pm and 6pm at the first party's timezone.

the second party can respond to the third party and tell the third party what they, the second party, felt or experienced at the time of sending energy and the exact time the second party felt the energy being sent.

then, a more experienced energy sender, such as tom or another volunteer, (fourth party) would send energy to the second party. the exact time of the second sending would be known only to the fourth party and the third party. an approximate time where the second party could expect the second sending to occur would be told to the second party. at such a time that the second party feels the energy being sent they record the time, experience, and feelings and send them to the third party.

it is important that there be no communication between the first party or the fourth party and the second party. this would ensure, to a reasonable faith, the integrity of the experiment. the third party would then post the results in the board, without consulting any other parties beforehand, for all to read and judge for themselves.

it is also important that the fourth party be approved by the majority of the people interested in the experiment, and that the fourth party have a good deal of experience in sending energy. how much experience should be decided by the majority of the people interested in the experiment.

any one interested? of course we would need to start a new topic if we do this.

~kakkarot
Title: ki pictures
Post by: Parmenion on February 12, 2003, 17:34:26
Ill volunteer to be a reciever if thats a help.
Great idea Kakarrot

Parmenion
Title: ki pictures
Post by: panabelle on February 12, 2003, 18:13:27
I know this sounds childish, but since I asked first can I receive?

I won't do it if I have to give out my exact address, though. Auraseer - what do you need to know? I'm sure "panabelle" isn't enough, since that (obviously) isn't even my real name. I can't really raise my Ki either to signal to you or any of that. So what info do you need? I'm eager to actually be able to make a Ki ball, even if it is with help.

So if I'm the...uh...second party, I think...then Kakkarot can be the third...I guess Auraseer would be the first, since he's sending it. If Tom would agree to it, he could be the fourth party (since he WAS your example).

We'll just have to make sure that we coordinate it as far as time zones go (I live in the Northeastern United States, while Auraseer lives in the United Kingdom).
Title: ki pictures
Post by: Squeek on February 12, 2003, 19:33:14
Aura wanted to try it on me.  I lightly refused :p.  O well, i did read that sending it over the internet requires a certain level of expertise, or dumb luck...  hehee.  

ANYWAYS  so yea its all possible and stuff like that.  (Im so tired right now..if what im typing is gibberish, deal.)

Seether rocks.  Whoo.

I'm on from 2:30 - 10:00  (6:00 - 10:00 depends on if sis kicks me offline)  EST.  Thats like....7:30 - some other time in auraseer's magical land over there.

BYE!

~Squeek (Beyond Tired, 95% asle...
Title: ki pictures
Post by: ThE_MaStEr_Of_PuPpEtS on February 12, 2003, 20:35:38
auraseer i believe that yur ki video is real even though you cant really see any thing b/c you cant see energy. also because me and my friend tried it and it urned out like your video. The coluor changed and every thing!
Title: ki pictures
Post by: Parmenion on February 13, 2003, 08:06:27
Hey Pannabelle sorry, i wasnt trying to step on ur toes, i didnt see ur post.By all means work away.Im looking 4ward to seeing the results posted.

Parmenion
Title: ki pictures
Post by: auraseer on February 13, 2003, 12:17:13
Hi,
I send energy by focusing on something done in the last few minutes by the person im sending to. I have done this to many people and they all gave positive feedback, as you have seen with the conversation above.

panabelle, if you get an Aol Instant Messenger (get it at http://www.aim.com , its free), ill gladly send you some energy to help [:)].

kakkarot, what a brilliant idea! I'll gladly be the first party/person. Just tell me what time and day and ill do it [:)].

Oh yeah. The UK time (GMT) is roughly 5 hours in front of the USA time.

Cya,
auraseer.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: kakkarot on February 13, 2003, 12:52:48
well, auraseer, we would have to have other people agree to be third party, cause unfortunately, i'm kinda too busy to be the third party for the next couple of weeks.

plus, i can't really send energy over distances reliably (i haven't done extensive testing of my ability), so i can't be a first or fourth party. sorry.

let's try starting a new thread and seeing who's interested.

~kakkarot
Title: ki pictures
Post by: kakkarot on February 13, 2003, 13:05:16
new thread posted in general metaphysics, called "We need volunteers to conduct a test, please." by kakkarot, me [:)].

~kakkarot
Title: ki pictures
Post by: Squeek on February 13, 2003, 15:00:04
*volunteers*

Im on from 2:30 - 6:00 always, and much MUCH later friday and saturday nights. (till about 4 am)  When i get cable internet i will be online every day from 2:30 - 10:30 unless i have basketball practice or it is wednesday.  Remember, this is EST, 5 hours behind auraseer.  If you are in california, it would be 11:30 (auraseers' 7:30) and you would most likely be at work / school.

Just a thought

~Squeek (yay)
Title: ki pictures
Post by: auraseer on February 14, 2003, 15:03:05
Hi,
Im on about 6:00pm to 8:00pm GMT on weekdays and from 10:00am to about 7:00pm GMT on weekends.

Cya,
auraseer.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: panabelle on February 14, 2003, 16:05:39
First - that's ok, Parmenion. [:D] I step on people's toes all the time when I dance w/them. [;)]

Second - What the heck IS GMT? Great Mountain time? I'm confused! [xx(]

Third - Uhh...I don't have AOL Instant messenger, so I guess that puts me out of the running for first party. (Second?) It doesn't matter anyway, cuz last night I made a breakthrough and I don't think I need other people's energy anymore. I appreciate the thought anyway, Auraseer.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: Bob251 on February 14, 2003, 21:39:11
heh, that's the great thing about AOL Instant Messenger.  It's FREE!

Just go to www.aim.com.  Anyone that wants/needs it.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: panabelle on February 15, 2003, 10:10:51
Seriously? [:O] I would have done that a loooooong time ago if I knew...I thought you have to subscribe to AOL which is incredibly slow. COX digital is way better.

I still don't particularly want to have energy sent to me though. As I said, I don't need it anymore. Thanks![:D]
Title: ki pictures
Post by: ssjoku on February 16, 2003, 16:41:00
when are going to start that energy transfore
Title: ki pictures
Post by: panabelle on February 18, 2003, 07:21:58
If you actually READ the thread, you would have seen kakkarot's post that said we were taking this to General Metaphysics where it is called "We need volunteers to conduct a test..."

I don't think they've decided on a date quite yet, they're still collecting volunteers and figuring out time zones.
Title: ki pictures
Post by: ssjoku on January 31, 2003, 21:19:36
hi
this is my ki ball(//forums/uploaded/ssjoku/kipoop.jpg)