NEW, sexual energy ascending and physical damage

[andonitxo]

Hi there,

Maybe I've overstrained my anus or the like, but the point is that some days ago I practiced mulabandha (anus contraction) quite hardly. I combined it with energy lifting from the penis/perineum up through the spine (as in taoist yoga). Everything went on normally.

In taoist yoga is said to contract the anus to close the switch which maintains closed the energy circuit in that part.

But the next morning I woke up with a sharp pain in my upper anus, right in that inner part close to the last lumbar vertebra. And that pain happened, and happens, when faeces move. It is as if I would have a line of pain entering my body from the mentioned vertebra, piercing my lower abdomen zone and geting out from some cm down the navel.

I also feel a slight tension like feeling in my testicles and penis' tip.

Could someone give me some information about this?. Could it be an inner
hemorroid or the like, poped up due to the exercise?, or maybe the ascended energy has hurt some tissues?.

Any advice will be of great help.

Thanks in advance.

[pod_3]

***IMO the same pain is associated with physically over-retracting the tesicles by clenching the sphincter. For the most part, this sort of alchemy is no more effective than using animal parts to transmute lead into gold if you don't understand the symbolism, though enlightenment can come accidentally if your subconsciousness grasps the signifigance.

Not as a doctor, but as a weight lifter, amateur trainer, and someone who's done dockwork alongside smaller guys,  I wouldn't worry about it if there is no blood, discoloration, trouble pooping, or numbness. There are several sphincters between portions of the bowel, and it sounds like you have sprained one a little by forcing material from a lower portion into a higher portion. Any possible impaction has likely already passed, but you will obviously be wanting to reconsider your technique.

[Nay]

I don't even know how to respond to this...  Do they really think (yoga..ummm..master's) this will do something?

Just lately I've been reading alot of different posts concerning techniques and the such, and frankly, I think too much thought is going into something that should be natural.

I was having OOBE's long before I learned of alot of techniques that are being spewed across cyber space.  Why is that?   I wonder if I am alone on this thought because things seemed to have gotten more complex for no reason.

I'm not picking on your post in paticular, just the last of several I've read in the past few minutes.  

Carry on with your butt-clenches.  

[andonitxo]

Hi there,

***IMO the same pain is associated with physically over-retracting the tesicles by clenching the sphincter. For the most part, this sort of alchemy is no more effective than using animal parts to transmute lead into gold if you don't understand the symbolism, though enlightenment can come accidentally if your subconsciousness grasps the signifigance.

Till now I didn't feel so much tension in that area. I use to practice hatha yoga, not to achieve enlightement, but to keep my body elastic and my lungs opened. But I found a book about sexual alchemy (taoist yoga) in which sexual energy is used in the same way outer energy is in NEW, i.e., to ascend it in a circuit (microcosmic orbit) and store later in the subnavel center.

Mulabandha (anus switch) and tongue switch are used to close doubly body's energy circuit. It seems they must be closed (contracted in the case of the anus, and tongue's tip pushing mouth's top part in the other case) to help energy pass through those zones.

Maybe it's a coincidence but contracting (absorving) the anus provokes little energy shocks from muladara to head's top point through the spine, more prominent during the first contractions. Will it be kundalini?, don't know.

The point is that this sex energy seems to be more intense than that absorved from the outer space. Added to this, it is mandatory to have a good sexual control not to discharge during a "lonely" practice (can be executed in pairs), which is really calamitous, because of so much energy stored and released all of a sudden (not a common orgasm).

Another aspect of this all is that you start to feel something like a connection between all parts of the sexual zone: perineum, testicles, penis and subnavel, because when bad executed a tension line like thing appears and all your sexual zone seems to be chained by this tight line.

Not as a doctor, but as a weight lifter, amateur trainer, and someone who's done dockwork alongside smaller guys,  I wouldn't worry about it if there is no blood, discoloration, trouble pooping, or numbness. There are several sphincters between portions of the bowel, and it sounds like you have sprained one a little by forcing material from a lower portion into a higher portion. Any possible impaction has likely already passed, but you will obviously be wanting to reconsider your technique.

Thanks for the advice. This has been a good alarm not to overstrain and not to use sex energy for the moment. Anyway my doctor has told me not to worry and that I have no damage in that area after checking it.

So you all are warned about taoist yoga, which seems to be very powerful, but for advanced guys.

[Banjoshee]

Ando, unlike some yoga practices with locks and bandhas, Taoist yoga movements like lifting the anus are supposed to be done very subtly, eventually just being a whisper of a movement to help with energy flow.

Pod is likely right that you've strained something. You also may have energy blocked up somewhere now.

Kundalini and the Taoist system are two different things, however, you can still trigger a Kundalini like rising of energy with strong practices. It's important with Taoist Yoga to follow that practices and instructions *exactly* to keep yourself from harm. The energy movement and flow can be obstructed easily with tension (relaxation is mandatory for proper chi flow) and/or blocks of every type of nature in the body.

I would recommend finding an experienced chi practitioner in your area to check you over.

[Michael_E]

Hi there,


In taoist yoga is said to contract the anus to close the switch which maintains closed the energy circuit in that part.

Thanks in advance.

In the taoist yoga that i know the contraction is slight and gentle. The anus naturally goes about the slight contraction when your about to put some effort into things, it helps focus a little. Think natural when doing this kinda stuff.

[Tom]

What some of the books will tell you is that contracting the perineum must be followed by relaxing it. For many people the second stage is automatic, but for some people, a sequence of tensing the perineum just leads to a bit more tension remaining after each squeeze and it stays over after the exercises are done. This lasting tension is the source of the problem. It is a good idea to intentionally relax the area after contracting it just to make sure.

[karnautrahl]

I get a rhytmic perinuem flutter when I do deep bouncing in the legs at the right speed. Not hard tension ever, just slight tension and relaxation-hardly a whisper of thought into the action either. Tongue is on the roof of the mouth naturally, and my throat lock (nearest location anyway) is naturally tensing rhymically when energy working.   These happen naturally and I wouldn't have known different if I hadn't read elsewhere that it wasn't so common.

[pharmakeia]

Try easy. Not hard.

[WalkerInTheWoods]

I have worked with sexual energy using Taoist techniques for several years and I have never used the anus muscles, only the perineum. My source of information stated the goal was to isolate and use only the perineum. Either way, I do agree that you most likely strained something and as others have said be relaxed when doing this practice.

[ARCHDRAGON]

yes, indeed having sex is very fun, and feels sooo good if it feels so right then maybe it's not bad?

[pharmakeia]

Of coarse sex is natural.

There are many people 'experimenting' with sexual alchemy. The science of somatic space that some say is the soul. After careful observation most men will find chakra / vibration awareness is increased immediatly after sex, but decreased overall for 3 days following. At this time the body is recovering natural energy reserves and is re-filling the [energy pools] which the body naturally fills through breathing, eating and walking, and expends thru various human endeavors. It's no wonder the old taoist systems focused so much on breathing, standing & moving meditations and heabal / dietary formulas.

So what happens after 3 days and your horny again? Get some basic common sense and inquire as to the origin of your "primal feelings".

After which chakra and energy meditations take on warmth or even menthol sensations as nervous energy is again pooled into the appropirate channels [meridians] and circulated around the body in overflowing abundance thanks to the secret spark within.

You have to ask yourself what happens when you only attach the ecstatic experience to the habitual process of orgasm, how does that effect your awareness of ecstatic well being the rest of the time?

The ability to not only be energy aware, but to continue to oxygenate the flame is the job of the breath. Tantric action needs relaxed and normal breathing. Abdominal breathing is used to calm the mind and expand awareness into the nervous system, but only Love connects past barriers unexploitively. Awareness for the sake of knowledge is not a self-less act, as soon as you hang on to anything, including awareness itself or any abstraction that isn't present in the 'mysterious union of opposites' tension is created through that attachment. Disattachment from the outcome is full interaction in the moment. The paradox of the Bride and the Bridegroom.

pharmakeia

[MadLordNad]

Maybe you're having a problem because you mistook digestive track energy for sexual energy? Hmmmm??

[You]

Tom: I was. The Anus is the most sensitive place on the entire body besides the Clitoris. It is a key factor to Kundalini. Robert Bruce states that the Penis is a powerful tertiary energy circuit. The combination of the two seems to be a rather important area of energy work to be discussed. Ignoring energy work altogether, the amount of emotion associated with this act is amazing, it amplifies the eroticism of a consentual act, and the degradation of a nonconsentual act. People gag at the sight, and yet want it anyway as it is new. There is a wave of people for and against it, where such division simply does not exist in standard intercourse. It is the way homosexuals have sex, and they deserve just as much attention as heterosexuals in the discussion of kundalini energy, do they not?

Though yes, I fully agree with you that I need to get some, but I prefer to wait...

[You]

Was I now? Well, the post was deleted, we'll just have to take your word on that. I certainly didn't show any mooning though, emoti-mooner!