High velocity running

[kenshinhan604]

i think it diesnt work!!!
lol
accept in star wars lol[][][][][][]

[neowert]

I never said it would be easy.  I would guess most here cannot do it.

[Mistic-Idan]

Try to tell it to Kakkarot here lol!
I am sure he will try it and reach to do it

[Ybom]

Hehe, I have to run constantly here at work. It's considered part of the job really. However when I first read this thread I thought you were talking about faster velocities than 30 mph.

Used to before I started using something similar to this technique, I would always be around 3rd or 4th in running to come in, after about 2-3 miles. Now, I am always first. I asked one of the old fast runners why he can't catch me and he says the same thing every time..."It's like you don't run out of energy!"

My technique developed over about 2 years (slowly) though. It allows me to go for months without any physical routine and pick up where I left off. At first I always tried to keep a smile on my face so that I wouldn't try to strain my head, which is part of the reason why I used to not be able to have a good run time. Now it's more of a very relaxed setup. When I start running, I focus on my legs flexing themselves out, and tie the invisible rope around my stomach that constantly pulls me forward. I breathe in and out through both my mouth and nose. I breathe in, take 4 steps, breathe out, take 4 steps at first. After I go a ways though, I reduce my steps to 3 before breathing. As I'm running I focus on a spot about 20 feet in front of me and try to get there faster over and over, and gradually increase that distance as I go faster. I also try to stay as relaxed as possible and stay completely in my head as if this were a running game, and I have to catch some opponent out of sight. I also apply the need for speed if I have the energy for it.

The problems I seem to have still:
1. When I get close to the finish I seem to get winded quickly.
2. At the start I really don't know how fast I should start off at.
3. During winter weather, my throat and nostrils freeze making me focus on my problems rather than my pace.

That said, apply this technique to you as necessary. I'm not an Olympian by any means, but I think with these concepts you can be. There's probably other things you can apply this to as well.

[kakkarot]

lol, i'm touched that you thought of me mistic ^_^ .

actually, when i'm going for speed and distance running, i start out with the same method: walking, to moving faster while tilting slightly forward, getting a beat (i'd say rythym, but i can't remember how to spell it ^_^;), and then increasing the tempo. with regards to my energy, i'd try to keep it at high levels, but i didn't use it in beats: it was just constant. and good breathing patterns are definatly a must.

another method i use, for running fast-short-distances, is take a deep breath and hold it, tense my muscles, freeze my energy so that it's not moving very much, tilt forward enough that i'm starting to fall, then force my legs to move fast enough to keep my torso moving forward rather than downward (ever seen the ninja run in anime? that's how). keep the torso and especially arms *not-moving*, and a short ways after you've gotten started moving, START BREATHING AGAIN ^_^ . quick but deep breaths are what i use, but anyone trying this should definatly find their own tempo/depth of breathing.
another warning, this method will be very VERY painful if kept up for "too" long (and "too" long with this method isn't very long at all, maybe a half block if you're not in the greatest of shape, maybe a block if you're in really good shape). your leg muscles will burn, your heart will beat very fast when you're done, and if you went for too long, it will be painful not only in your heart but also with your entire circulatory system. so i strongly suggest not using this method unless you're in shape.

and for long-slow running, i use proper breathing, upright posture, good tempo of steps and breathing (experiment to find what is good for you). and i keep my energy level constant, not high but definatly not low either. if i could put it on a scale, i'd say somewhere *about* (though of course, not perfectly []) 2/3rds to 3/4ths of the "highest" i could make it. (lol, i remember when i did this once when my friends were skateboarding, and we'd gone quite a number of blocks and one of them said "i'm sorry, man. no offence but i guess i watch too many cartoons cause i always thought that nerds stop after running a short distance and start panting and wheezing and can barely stand anymore" ^_^ . *sigh* it's great when people underestimate you and you far exceed even what they can do [])



and no matter which method i use, i almost always take a couple of deep-but-not-slow-nor-fast breaths before starting to get my energy and body ready for what they are about to do ^_^ . (and for anyone who didn't know, remember: stretching = good [])

oh yeah, another quick technique i use sometimes when i want to go from stop to full speed quickly, is that i'll take a step or two, then bounce the next step or two (left foot pushes up a small distance, left foot touches down kinda bounce), and then just burst to full speed. requires a bit of a tempo to it, but if anyone practices with it, i'm sure you should understand it quickly [].

~kakkarot

[kenshinhan604]

quote:Originally posted by Ybom

Hehe, I have to run constantly here at work. It's considered part of the job really. However when I first read this thread I thought you were talking about faster velocities than 30 mph.

Used to before I started using something similar to this technique, I would always be around 3rd or 4th in running to come in, after about 2-3 miles. Now, I am always first. I asked one of the old fast runners why he can't catch me and he says the same thing every time..."It's like you don't run out of energy!"

My technique developed over about 2 years (slowly) though. It allows me to go for months without any physical routine and pick up where I left off. At first I always tried to keep a smile on my face so that I wouldn't try to strain my head, which is part of the reason why I used to not be able to have a good run time. Now it's more of a very relaxed setup. When I start running, I focus on my legs flexing themselves out, and tie the invisible rope around my stomach that constantly pulls me forward. I breathe in and out through both my mouth and nose. I breathe in, take 4 steps, breathe out, take 4 steps at first. After I go a ways though, I reduce my steps to 3 before breathing. As I'm running I focus on a spot about 20 feet in front of me and try to get there faster over and over, and gradually increase that distance as I go faster. I also try to stay as relaxed as possible and stay completely in my head as if this were a running game, and I have to catch some opponent out of sight. I also apply the need for speed if I have the energy for it.

The problems I seem to have still:
1. When I get close to the finish I seem to get winded quickly.
2. At the start I really don't know how fast I should start off at.
3. During winter weather, my throat and nostrils freeze making me focus on my problems rather than my pace.

That said, apply this technique to you as necessary. I'm not an Olympian by any means, but I think with these concepts you can be. There's probably other things you can apply this to as well.

wud you care to share the experience i mean the technique???
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[Ybom]

>wud you care to share the experience i mean the technique???
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Ya sure, but as of right now I think you're reading my post incorrectly. In the beginning I make a statement regarding "faster than 30 mph". You see I am looking for someone who can do this consistently. I am unable to move at these speeds.

However, if you are referring to being able to go long periods of time without excersizing and picking up where you left off, it mostly deals with my beliefs that I have always thought my legs are quite powerful and are durable, even over time. In addition to this, my belief that my diet keeps me at the perfect weight seems to help too. What I'm saying here is if you program yourself to think a specific way, and that belief is stronger than what anyone else can put on you, you will be able to do almost anything, even if it is as simple as going out for your run after 2 months of sitting in front of a desk drowning in your boredom.

If you meant something else completely, let me know! I hope what I have said helps. Also if you see something I left out or something that needs further elaboration, I'll do my best to restate it.

[kenshinhan604]

quote:Originally posted by Ybom

>wud you care to share the experience i mean the technique???
>[?][?][?]

Ya sure, but as of right now I think you're reading my post incorrectly. In the beginning I make a statement regarding "faster than 30 mph". You see I am looking for someone who can do this consistently. I am unable to move at these speeds.

However, if you are referring to being able to go long periods of time without excersizing and picking up where you left off, it mostly deals with my beliefs that I have always thought my legs are quite powerful and are durable, even over time. In addition to this, my belief that my diet keeps me at the perfect weight seems to help too. What I'm saying here is if you program yourself to think a specific way, and that belief is stronger than what anyone else can put on you, you will be able to do almost anything, even if it is as simple as going out for your run after 2 months of sitting in front of a desk drowning in your boredom.

If you meant something else completely, let me know! I hope what I have said helps. Also if you see something I left out or something that needs further elaboration, I'll do my best to restate it.

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so wat is ze way

[beavis]

I've never heard of anybody who could run 30 miles per hour (mile in 2 minutes). This thread is crap.

[neowert]

Most people dont think TK is possible.

[Risu no Kairu]

beavis, you shock me.

Every other post you make is about how any and all things are possible and how you've done them at least once before.

Now, you're here saying that something isn't possible?

[Blackstream]

30 mph is possible with the top athletes in the world in short sprints (aka, for part of the sprint).  Seeing as I can run like 15 mph... someone that's like 1 foot taller and far more trained than me running twice as fast as me isn't that impossible.  But maintaing that kinda energy for anything more than like 50 meters is near impossible.

Then again, those atheletes probably don't use the NEW system.  Who knows what they could do with that?

[kenshinhan604]

quote:Originally posted by Blackstream

30 mph is possible with the top athletes in the world in short sprints (aka, for part of the sprint).  Seeing as I can run like 15 mph... someone that's like 1 foot taller and far more trained than me running twice as fast as me isn't that impossible.  But maintaing that kinda energy for anything more than like 50 meters is near impossible.

Then again, those atheletes probably don't use the NEW system.  Who knows what they could do with that?

vrything possable

[neowert]

So I asked this guy his technique on high velocity running, where he achieved speeds of 30 miles per hour.  Unfortunately, I do not have the skill to use the technique.  I am also too fat.  I would probably hurt my legs .   However, some of you more practiced people out there may enjoy it.  Here ya go (directly from the email.  You may need to fill in some blanks n stuff):

"The technique (as I remember it - it's been a while) basically revolves
around a very regular natural rhythm. We found that the optimal frequency is
different from person to person, but usually it is close to the rhythm you
have while walking casually. Start by walking easily in the direction you
want to go; feel the pulse of your steps and start adjusting all of your
cycles to that frequency. Various visualizations help here; if you are
experienced in biofeedback you'll likely already know the best way to reach
a certain frequency this way. You should be able to feel the pulse in your
whole body; your natural energy levels should peak each time your foot
strikes the ground. Practice just doing this until you can do it in a
near-trance state and simply focus on the rhythm.

Once you can enter the state quickly, it's just a matter of balancing the
mental control with the physical motions of running. We found that various
postures and stances affect the speed significantly; my personal favorite is
to keep my axis of balance basically straight vertical, and lock my knees at
about an 80 degree angle. Simply run with your feet moving to your natural
rhythm, and you should feel a bit of weight loss as if you aren't really
hitting the ground. If you feel any discomfort in your legs, stop
immediately; when done properly you will not feel yourself touching the
ground at all, aside from a dull pressure in time to the rhythm you have set
up.

This may take a few runs to get used to; as with most things it is really
rather hard to describe what it feels like, but you'll know it when you do
it. The mental aspect is really the most important, although as I said your
physical motion has an influence as well. If you try the posture I described
normally, you should find it very uncomfortable and difficult to move fast,
without leaning your center of mass forward (as you would normally do when
running). When you are in the correct mental state, you should be able to
move the fastest with your mass centered directly vertical. Of course we
really only have data from my friend and myself, so this might be different
for you.

You will not immediately feel anything when this works properly, but be
careful; after two or three attempts you can drain your energy levels very
severely. It is best not to try running two days in a row, and if you have
any kind of medical conditions (asthma, etc.) be sure you are in good
condition before making the attempt.

The most telltale sign of accomplishing the run will be that you totally
lose track of time. You may not even feel like you are moving fast; in fact
I rarely feel like I'm moving at all, I just sort of wake up a lot farther
down the path than I should be. I've also done the exact opposite and spent
nearly 20 minutes taking a handful of steps.

As with all things, experiment and see what works best for you."