I find this whole vampire thing quite fascinating, mainly because i feel as though one of my friends was a "vampire" now that i think of it. We pretty much grew up together, and he would be cool sometimes, but then sometimes i would leave his presence with the feeling of being totally lethargic or lacking the will to really do anything. He was truly the type of person where he always had to have his attention on himself, and couldn't stand it if someone was stealing the show. Right now, he just got evicted from his apartment and has a huge pot addiction, so I'am not sure this whole "vampire" thing is working out for him, if he indeed is one?
My question is when being a "vampire", how does one draw energy from a victim. Is it with the use of words, body movements ?? I'am not going to accept that all a vampire has to do is stare at somebody from across the room?
Another question is how does one shield oneself from energy suckers?
My guess would be that in shielding oneself from others, one would have to control his/her thinking so as to either create bad thoughts (bad energy) so the vampire becomes disinterested in the victim, or to visualize a protective shield around oneself or whatever.
So if you would be kind and respond.
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The answers you want about how to protect yourself from attack can be found easily in the Psychic Self-Defense forum. Cruise around in there for a while.
As for how the energy is drawn, I honestly can't say I have ever been silly enough to want to try. Why draw from someone else when there is so much unprotected free energy just flowing through the Universe?
Bloodsong
Quote from: bloodsong...Why draw from someone else when there is so much unprotected free energy just flowing through the Universe?
Thank GOD there are others here who understand this!
I still don't understand this desire some people have to willingly draw energy from other people. It seems to me an odd fascination held mostly by romanticising pseudo-goth wannabes. The sad part is if only they'd realise that true "psychic vampirism" is more a nasty affliction affecting the emotionally unstable than something that should be sought after.
James.
I'd say the most powerful of vampirism form is the spoken word. I mean, a word can put you high or lead you to a low-energy-level state. Many people know this conscious or unconsciously so they know what to say, how and when, specially when they want to dominate others.
At last a word is the physical form (in waves, of course) of a thought.
I use to imagine myself surronded in a sphere of white light. That uses to be enough.
It is curious, also, how a cat is able to detect evil people. I realized it time ago, when a known guy came to my home and my cat jumped to his face after snorting to him.
thanx andon for answering my questions.
bryan
bryman wrote:
My question is when being a "vampire", how does one draw energy from a victim. Is it with the use of words, body movements ??
Its really quite easy to draw energy from someone and no words or body movements are necessary although often gesturing with the hands can be effective as a focus point.
I'm not going to accept that all a vampire has to do is stare at somebody from across the room?
Both I and many other Psychic Vampires can quite easily draw energy from someone from across a room whether there staring at them or not. Its called Ambient Feeding which is feeding without direct contact and can be done at a distance.
I wouldn't really call someone a victim or at least I don't think of them as a victim since I'm not out to harm anyone.
James S. wrote:
Thank GOD there are others here who understand this!
I still don't understand this desire some people have to willingly draw energy from other people. It seems to me an odd fascination held mostly by romanticising pseudo-goth wannabes. The sad part is if only they'd realise that true "psychic vampirism" is more a nasty affliction affecting the emotionally unstable than something that should be sought after.
Although it is true that there are other sources of energy other than human, it is the human energy that psi's prefer to feed on because it is energy that is most compatible with our own and most familiar.
We can feed on other sources in addition to the human energy and many of us like a mixture of tree energy in our diets.
Psychic Vampirism is not a nasty affliction and I really dislike seeing it so often being referred to as a disease.
Psychic Vampires are not emotionally unstable persons with some sort of sickness needing desperately to be cured.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with these comments made.[/b]
in response to Gothika.. so basically it would be more of an exchange of energy or like when leeches are used medically.. instead of getting the blood flowing.. The vamps are just getting the energy flowing.. hmm it could work I guess since we all do create our own reality.. Imagination.. would be wonderful if more used to create new, totally new thoughts..
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Although it is true that there are other sources of energy other than human, it is the human energy that psi's prefer to feed on because it is energy that is most compatible with our own and most familiar.
We can feed on other sources in addition to the human energy and many of us like a mixture of tree energy in our diets.
Psychic Vampirism is not a nasty affliction and I really dislike seeing it so often being referred to as a disease.
Psychic Vampires are not emotionally unstable persons with some sort of sickness needing desperately to be cured.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with these comments made.
So you'd rather rob someone of thier energies than go direct to far more pure sources? I don't get that!
QuoteI wouldn't really call someone a victim or at least I don't think of them as a victim since I'm not out to harm anyone.
How can you defend the position of psi-vamps in one breath and say you don't want to harm others in another?
Sorry, that's exactly what psi-vamps do. They cause harm, usually emotional, to others! If psi-vamps were harmless, why would so many people go to the trouble of shielding and defending themselves against them?
I just can't understand why someone would choose to become what is effectively an energy bottom-feeder, taking on other peoples junk, coz that's what you're getting when you feed of other people's energies, instead of going for the more pure, more powerful and much more compatible energies that the universe has made freely available to all of us.
No matter how much you might romanticise the idea of being some kind of vampire, most psi-vamps are people who suffer emotional problems or personal dramas that lead them to use other people as emotional crutches. I can't see anything desirable in that whatsoever. Rather, I feel sorry for such people as they really are in need of healing.
In fact, energy vampires are quite a kind of stupid because if they would want free extra energy they'd just need to be initiated in reiki, a technique which let you absorb heavenly energy and spread it through your hands (both for yourself or for others).
So two conclusions may be boiled down: they are evil people who want not only to have more energy but to hurt others, and they're ignorants which don't know how the universe really works.
Anyway, and for sure another one has stated it, a psychic vampire needs a weary victim, because a normal guy is stable enough to deny that energy drawing.
Quote from: brymanAnother question is how does one shield oneself from energy suckers?
A guy I knew told me once how He deals with energy drainers: Well, he told me that when he feels that someone drains his energy he doesn't stop it, but instead he visualizes that his worst, the nastiest and the filthiest energies are drained away by the vampire. He told me that for him it was refreshing, and a vamp that was consuming his filthy energy never tries to feed of him again. :smile:
I find it immoral, so I have never tried this and I don't know if it really works :confused: Usually when an energetic leech of some sort attaches to me, I send it off to a nearest power line. But I doubt it will work in case face-in face encounter with a psi-vamp.
When I feel that something "fishy" is going on, I put up a simple shield. If it doesn't work, I pray for the protection of God, and I visualize that the Light and Love of God ascends from heaven and surrounds and protects me :smile:
From my own experience, I've been initiated in the first level of Reiki. It's awesome how the Reiki energy literally escapes from your hands when the patience has some urge in a hurt part of his body.
Of course the case is different, because Reiki energy is not "your" own energy, so you could be drained ad infinitum without the least lost of your energy.
Don't really know where our energies are sucked from in a vampirism case, but it is effective to speak out loud (in your mind) saying "shield!" or something like that.
I know a psychic vampire, but I think he doesn't really know about it. He is able to suck a whole group's energy rapidly (I've seen it repeatedly) to the point of disolving the group although plans to get out where already made. Thanks God he took another path and left the group time ago. You know, people intuitively realized what was going on so he ended up discussing roughly with several friends till he was rejected.
James S. wrote:
So you'd rather rob someone of their energies than go direct to far more pure sources? I don't get that!
Well as for going to the other sources unfortunately psi vamps require vital human energy and feed upon other human beings because that is the energy they resonate with and that is the energy that most sustains them.
Besides many psi's such as myself don't solely feed on human energies but also feed on other sources as I have mentioned before.
As for the robbing part all beings, vampiric or otherwise, engage in a constant exchange of energy with their environment. For the most part, this exchange is unconscious and is as instinctive as breathing. Energy exchange is a part of the natural flow of the Universe, and it serves to connect all living things.
Since the main focus of a psi's need is human vital energy makes it one of the reasons that that so many people become so defensive and hostile on the subject.
If they were taking energy from solely non human sources such as the earth, animals, or plants how many people would even care or notice.
Sorry, that's exactly what psi-vamps do. They cause harm, usually emotional, to others! If psi-vamps were harmless, why would so many people go to the trouble of shielding and defending themselves against them?
Well as it is with all people, their are good psi vampires and bad psi vampires just like their are good people and evil people.
Some don't seek to harm anyone at all including myself and others may very well be out to harm people.
Psychic vampires believe or not are just as susceptible to psychic attack just like non vamps are.
We also practice shielding and defending ourselves from unethical vampires and persons.
Believe it or not I am no more immune to a psychic attack from another vampire than anyone else although I may know better how to shield and protect myself against it.
No matter how much you might romanticize the idea of being some kind of vampire, most psi-vamps are people who suffer emotional problems or personal dramas that lead them to use other people as emotional crutches. I can't see anything desirable in that whatsoever. Rather, I feel sorry for such people as they really are in need of healing.
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It is not really my own personal experience that most psi vamps are people who suffer emotional problems or some kind of person drama in need of a human emotional crutch.
They are mostly stable emotionally sound people just like everyone else only that they feed on human energy being the difference.
Well I can speak for myself and say I am a compassionate individual out to harm no one and when I feed from someone I like to do it one on one letting them know what I am and what I do.
If they wish to continue with me then we proceed onwards.
When I feed I do more than that, I do what is known as cycling.
Cycling is a process in which the vampire takes energy into their body from the person their in contact with and refine it thus needing to take in less of it.
The energy can be passed between both parties with an even exchange taking place so neither party has to lose more energy than the other.
This is a process in which many psi vamps both take and process energy.
But I know that some persons will always be wary of Psychic Vampires condemning them as immoral monsters no matter what I say but I will always disagree with the notion that all psi vampires are evil people out to harm others.
All is One.. in the infinite expression of that Oneness there exsists infinite possibilities.
Good-Evil, Positive-Negative, Givers-Takers, Predators-Prey it is all part of the rhythm of Oneness a perfect flow of infinite expression.
We are in fact right now in this thread exchanging energy, My source is infinite, it is the source of Oneness, One with all things, the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end, I breath in, I breath out.. so is the rhythm of life.
Quick energy exercise,
Your source of energy is infinite, the more you give out the more you get, the more you open the valve the more there is to give, like a bubble that radiates light, the more light that you allow through you the brighter you get.
Give it freely, it opens you up to receive freely. those that don't open the valve ultimately shut down from to much energy.
A great example would be like at the end of the New Hulk movie.. The father tries to leech his son's power, and the hulk says you want it? TAKE IT ALL!!!! BOOM dad explodes. couldn't handle it all.
Give your most pure energy, loving creation energy it is infinite and the more you give the more you receive the less reason to shield or protect oneself, trust in yourself for you are in fact an expression of infinite source. ALL of Us!
Enjoy the quest of Experience
~A Souls Fury!
Lovely post A Soul's Fury!
Very true.
Like andonitxo, I have been initiated into level 1 Reiki, where you learn that the true flow of energy happens when we open ourselves up as conduits, not hold on to it like sealed containers.
:smile:
James.
If anyone wants to learn how to eat energy here is a link
http://www.inka-online.com/workshops.htm
Hmmm, that was a most interesting link.
I as a psi vamp practice many of these energy techniques such as cycling and energy refining and raising it to a higher level.
This can be accomplished by focusing on a particular chakra such as the solar plexus and compressing the energy until it is in a tight ball.
This ball can either be absorbed back into ones system which is similar to ingesting it or can be placed into or fed to another person.
Quoteif they would want free extra energy they'd just need to be initiated in reiki
I don't know if it would do. As far as I know psi vamps need and suck Chi. Reiki is not Chi... But, I think some psi vamp should try reiki, maybe it will help him/her with his/hers chi problems...
Quote from: JacoQuoteif they would want free extra energy they'd just need to be initiated in reiki
I don't know if it would do. As far as I know psi vamps need and suck Chi. Reiki is not Chi... But, I think some psi vamp should try reiki, maybe it will help him/her with his/hers chi problems...
Tell me what the difference are between reiki and chi?
QuoteTell me what the difference are between reiki and chi?
Well, reiki comes from "above" :grin: It comes from some higher dimensions, from what I do not know, maybe from "the source" :confused: I don't know. It works in the same time on our mental, astral and physical body. Ki(chi) is rather something "down to earth". It is is associated with our etheric(energy) body, which is in close relations with our physical body. Chi is ours, reiki comes from somewhere.
We are in constant relations with energies around us. We absorb those energies, but they must be first transformed into Chi in hara.
At least, I feel it in this way :smile:
Quote from: brymanI'am not sure this whole "vampire" thing is working out for him, if he indeed is one?
If he is alive he is not a real vampire - he is just a loser who naturally brings down everything and everyone around him.
Real vampires are non physical beings who can't accept the fact that they are dead.
Read this article (http://www.theosophical.ca/Vampire.htm) if you want more info on this subject.