Robert Bruce's New Energy Work Course?

[HilaryTalrechi]

Hey Guys,

I hear great things about this man, Robert Bruce?

I'm not familiar with him, but I just signed up for video blog at AstralBob.com.

He says he has a new self-healing through energy work home study program.

Does anybody like him? I am thinking about getting it. My one friend is excited,
but my other friend tries to tell me that energy work is dangerous, so I don't know
what to do. Thanks.

Smiles,
Hilary

[Volgerle]

Generally, he does not seem to have a lot of fans here. But I like him. I am also on his community at "Astraldynamics". Have a look there for more info about him.

http://forums.astraldynamics.com/
http://www.astraldynamics.com/home/

But why in your opinion is energy work supposed to be dangerous?

[Naykid]

I like him, I just don't agree with everything he claims. 

Welcome to the forums Hilary. 

[testing]

Hey Guys,

I hear great things about this man, Robert Bruce?

I'm not familiar with him, but I just signed up for video blog at AstralBob.com.

He says he has a new self-healing through energy work home study program.

Does anybody like him? I am thinking about getting it. My one friend is excited,
but my other friend tries to tell me that energy work is dangerous, so I don't know
what to do. Thanks.

Smiles,
Hilary

Energy work isn't dangerous, that's like saying exercise is dangerous.

[Xanth]

I like him, I just don't agree with everything he claims. 

I'll second that.
He's a fine person, but there are many things he says I just don't agree with.

[HilaryTalrechi]

OK so this is getting interesting, and thank you for the welcome.

What specifically do you not agree with so I know what I'm getting into here?

[Naykid]

OK so this is getting interesting, and thank you for the welcome.

What specifically do you not agree with so I know what I'm getting into here?

I don't know about Xanth, I just don't agree with his PSD solutions.  I think it actually causes the symptoms to grow and hang on for a much longer time than need be.  IMO, of course.  I suppose I have nothing against energy work, just the neg thing. 

[Xanth]

OK so this is getting interesting, and thank you for the welcome.

What specifically do you not agree with so I know what I'm getting into here?

Specifically?

I'll just mention two issues for now...
His insinuation that "energy work" is required or helps a person to astral project and his "mind split" theory.  Those are two things I disagree with him heavily on.

But then again, don't just buy what I'm saying cause I'm saying it.  Do what you feel is necessary to succeed. 

[Tiny]

youre right, sorry. do what you feel is right to you.

[Volgerle]

@Xanth&Tiny

I had my first AP (into the RTZ actrually) before I had done ANY energy work, let alone even heard about it and how it is done.

So yes, you don't need EW to project or have similar experiences.

On the other hands it might support it. It's like doing exercise for becoming a better sprinter for example. But can't we even run without exercise? Of course, but not with as much speed, strength and stamina.

So I would not see a great controversy here. EW does help but it is NOT the unique pre-requisite or bottleneck you have to pass through to have OBEs and similar experiences. Many APers do APing without any energy or chakra work (at least so they claim).

[Xanth]

Energy work is the only way you can have OBEs, get the book if you like the author but i recommend intuitively developing your energy work techniques.



kind regards,

Paul

Don't fall into the trap of absolutes saying that something is the *ONLY WAY* for it to happen.
It may be the only way *YOU* can have one... but not everyone.

Cause I do none and project fine.  So your theory just flew out the window.

@Xanth&Tiny

I had my first AP (into the RTZ actrually) before I had done ANY energy work, let alone even heard about it and how it is done.

So yes, you don't need EW to project or have similar experiences.

On the other hands it might support it. It's like doing exercise for becoming a better sprinter for example. But can't we even run without exercise? Of course, but not with as much speed, strength and stamina.

So I would not see a great controversy here. EW does help but it is NOT the unique pre-requisite or bottleneck you have to pass through to have OBEs and similar experiences. Many APers do APing without any energy or chakra work (at least so they claim).

That's a great way to put it. 

BTW... I LOVE the avatar.  Penguin had it coming.   LoL

[Volgerle]

i think it's interesting what he has to say, here's about energy work from his blog, for anyone interested:

http://astralbob.com/blog/energy-body-secrets/
http://astralbob.com/blog/energy-body-secrets-22/

[Naykid]

I've only opened the links, I have not listened yet.  I just wanted to say thanks for the links and comment on how I feel when I see Mr. Bruce sitting there.

... The one thing that confused me greatly as a newcomer to the astral projection/out of body scene back in 2000, was that many people thought (and expressed) in order to have a obe you had to have a vegetarian menu, no smoking, and no drinking.  Seriously.  Yet, when I saw pictures of Mr. Bruce back then,.well, he didn't seem to live by that rule and now looking at him I can see that he isn't in what you would call great "physical shape"..  I stressed out for many months over that stupid perception.     I mean no offense to Mr. Bruce, but damn.  Does he still smoke ciggs too?

This is what I mean about EVERYONE being different.  I love my red meat and I loved my ciggs, yet I thought I was less and couldn't have great experiences.  NOT TRUE people. 

Geez. .and that guy who is going on some kind of masturbation, sex free life?....?....?   Good luck with that.    I say masturbate all you want my friend, it's all in your mind.

[testing]

i think it's interesting what he has to say, here's about energy work from his blog, for anyone interested:

http://astralbob.com/blog/energy-body-secrets/
http://astralbob.com/blog/energy-body-secrets-22/

Thanks for this, I've never seen him speak. He is wearing a Q-link! 

[Volgerle]

Thanks for this, I've never seen him speak. He is wearing a Q-link! 

yeah, but it's a tiny bit to ostentatiously, if you ask me 
he seems to be an 'endorser' for this product
but I don't hold this against him
actually, I have a Q-link myself 

[spark]

Hi all.  I did not read all the posts.  But, I definitely recommend Robert Bruce.  He is very knowledgable.  Personally, I tend to ignore everyone.  I have not read anything on these subjects.  I have been a self learner.  But, I found Mr. Bruce, and have asked him questions at times.  For anyone here that disagrees with Mr. Bruce, I expect it relates to a lack of experience.  Sorry, I am perhaps talking off the cuff.  I just think much of what he says is very accurate.  Although, I have not read everything.  And, I don't care so much for all the techniques, etc.  As an FYI, I started with so called OBEs ... for many years.  I did them thousands of times and could do so at will.  Then, I discovered the chakras and more.  Its a funky world.  And, Mr. Bruce seems to be rather well informed.  Anyway, later.

[Naykid]

Hi all.  I did not read all the posts.  But, I definitely recommend Robert Bruce.  He is very knowledgable.  Personally, I tend to ignore everyone.  I have not read anything on these subjects.  I have been a self learner.  But, I found Mr. Bruce, and have asked him questions at times.  For anyone here that disagrees with Mr. Bruce, I expect it relates to a lack of experience.  Sorry, I am perhaps talking off the cuff.  I just think much of what he says is very accurate.  Although, I have not read everything.  And, I don't care so much for all the techniques, etc.  As an FYI, I started with so called OBEs ... for many years.  I did them thousands of times and could do so at will.  Then, I discovered the chakras and more.  Its a funky world.  And, Mr. Bruce seems to be rather well informed.  Anyway, later.

You start out your post with saying you didn't read all the posts, yet then you say, For anyone here that disagrees with Mr. Bruce, I expect it relates to a lack of experience. So why start out by insulting those that don't totally agree with Mr. Bruce?  Because I, for one am insulted by your statement.  I do not lack experience, I lack a different knowledge than Mr. Bruce sells and that does not mean his knowledge is any more valid than anyone else on this planet.

You've had thousands of OBE's at will?  Care to share any of them?

[spark]

Sorry for the poor choice of words.  I actually don't know everything that Robert Bruce talks about.  I have read his Energy Work book, exchanged emails with him and read some of his online stuff.  In general, I tend to think that Robert is very knowledgable.  Nothing he has ever said really jumps out as wrong, and, in fact, he has been helpful for me.  There are few folks that spend the time to try to parce all these things together in concrete terms.  Doing so, will most likely come with some errors, or, at least, misapplied emphases at times.  But, for most folks, I think he has much to offer.  For me, I am not so into OBEs these days.  I've started to bring what I've learned in OBEs into my daily life.  For me, OBEs were mostly a means to understand myself ... e.g., undertanding how to control one's focus, how to make requests, how to undertand what one perceives, how to understand the importance of and power of so called love, how to understand and interact with one's so called higher self, etc.  To be honest, I tend to wonder if over focus on OBEs, etc., can perhaps unbalance one's chakras and/or energy body if not done so carefully.  Then again, I am not really certain about that, and I do think that OBEs may also be used to balance oneself too.  Anyway, for me, my recent focus has been to understand so called energy more ... i.e., I started to perceive energy strongly about 2 years ago (e.g., see/feel/interact, etc.).  This is more of my focus because it is so prevalent and so practically useful.  i am more into health/fitness/practical stuff. But, my main goal is just to grow.    And, as I do, i am glad that i have someone like Mr. Bruce to contact once in a while as he has much knowledge of the steps along the way.  Anyway, I am also happy to chat via email about specifics if you want.  I don't visit this site too much.   

[spark]

Hmm ... looking back at my posts, i realized that in my first post i said that "I have not read anything" and in my second post i mentioned that i read Robert's Energy Work book.  I meant that in the last 25 years since I started into this stuff, i have read very little.  And, most of my steps and learning came from practice.  For example, I did not even know about OBEs, but just started to have them a lot and then heard from others what they were called.  Similarly, I had no idea of so called energy until i started to perceive it very strongly.  I have, at times, reached out to see what others had to say on the subjects and/or to get some help thru sticky spots (for example, I had issues with so called neg entities that scared me a lot in OBEs for a while and i learned how to deal with that thru a bit of tinkering and talking to others).  anyway, I have also sent Robert Bruce some emails here and there with inqueries, and his thoughts and experience were very helpful, such as, e.g., related to kundalini rising, OBEs, imbalances, and more. 

[CFTraveler]

Hi spark.
I am not aware of any NEW course, other than the energy section of the site(free) (he now has some free videos on YouTube also and the video blog) and the PAPI workshops (cost money), which are designed for astral projection and include energy work.
So I don't specifically know which ones you are talking about.

[Lexy]

He has new books coming out or they may just be updated books being re-released.