Hi, i started to do energy work a few month ago, now i have been seeing a few things:
Black dots; size of an avarage fly, i'll see it dance around in my perihpheral vision and then it will vanish with driect eye contact. Sometimes it will come at me like a fly, then vanishes whne i try to hit it away. My brother sees these often aswell.
Grey dots; same as black, but sometimes they don't vanish with direct eye contact. This appeared fr about 2 weeks after my gran died, my mum saw it aswell.
Large black dots; i see these on my wall, about the size of an orange and vanish when i try to look at them.
White lines; dash past the corner of my eye then vanish, i keep thinking it's fluff.
Purple rectangle; seen this once, went into the kitchen in the dark and a neon-like purple light floated past directly in front of me about 4 metres away for about 3 seconds. About 5 inches long, 2 inches up.[/li]
I see about 1 thing every 2 days and some days i see more than others.
Do you think i'm seeing anything cool or just my eyes playing tricks on me?
or something bad...
I'm no expert on the matter, it could be a wide variety of things. I do know that sometimes before I go to bed I go to switch of my light and then in my semi-dark room i can see a large purple spot crawling on my wall, but that is due to me looking at my light before I switch it off. However, since I was in 7th grade (I remember the very first time) if i start thinking about it I can sort of concentrate on my peripheral vision and I can see these little pinpoint sized white ball shaped lights just flickering all around. It's easier to see them in the sun light, like against the blue sky, but now-a-days I can see them just about anywhere anytime, if I try.
Is it a trick, or is it really something? Who knows? Just enjoy the show :)
I really don't make what to make of your dots NotMarkk. Haven't heard or seen anything like those. Especially those white lines and that rectangle sounds interesting. Eyes can play some tricks and maybe some of the black and grey dots could be from this category, but lines and rectangles doesn't sound like that.. so maybe neither are the dots. Maybe they are your perceptions of some kind of energies or entitys? Do you lot's of these dots when you see these, or like one at a time?
However what dotster described is familiar to me too. From what I've read those white things swirling around in the air are air-prana. Which is quite the same as chi flowing in the air if I've understood correctly.. they are just using different terminology in different cultures. Do you see those only with your peripheral vision? I just recently have seen these white swirling dots couple of times now, and I can look straight on to them, and even focus my vision on them. So I can be pretty sure they aren't dust or anything because of their flight pattern and appearing/disappearing.. and I don't believe them to be tricks of the eye either because of the same things. If you get 'artifacts' in your vision, as everyone sometimes do.. the kind of blobs of different color, they seem to move with your vision, staying in the same orientation from the point you are looking, so you can't directly focus on those if they aren't right at the middle of your vision.
-Harrif
Quote from: dotster on August 23, 2009, 17:29:22
I'm no expert on the matter, it could be a wide variety of things. I do know that sometimes before I go to bed I go to switch of my light and then in my semi-dark room i can see a large purple spot crawling on my wall, but that is due to me looking at my light before I switch it off. However, since I was in 7th grade (I remember the very first time) if i start thinking about it I can sort of concentrate on my peripheral vision and I can see these little pinpoint sized white ball shaped lights just flickering all around. It's easier to see them in the sun light, like against the blue sky, but now-a-days I can see them just about anywhere anytime, if I try.
Is it a trick, or is it really something? Who knows? Just enjoy the show :)
hmm, weird.
QuoteI really don't make what to make of your dots NotMarkk. Haven't heard or seen anything like those. Especially those white lines and that rectangle sounds interesting. Eyes can play some tricks and maybe some of the black and grey dots could be from this category, but lines and rectangles doesn't sound like that.. so maybe neither are the dots. Maybe they are your perceptions of some kind of energies or entitys? Do you lot's of these dots when you see these, or like one at a time?
However what dotster described is familiar to me too. From what I've read those white things swirling around in the air are air-prana. Which is quite the same as chi flowing in the air if I've understood correctly.. they are just using different terminology in different cultures. Do you see those only with your peripheral vision? I just recently have seen these white swirling dots couple of times now, and I can look straight on to them, and even focus my vision on them. So I can be pretty sure they aren't dust or anything because of their flight pattern and appearing/disappearing.. and I don't believe them to be tricks of the eye either because of the same things. If you get 'artifacts' in your vision, as everyone sometimes do.. the kind of blobs of different color, they seem to move with your vision, staying in the same orientation from the point you are looking, so you can't directly focus on those if they aren't right at the middle of your vision.
-Harrif
The dots always come one at a time. I also see those swirly white things (mabye dfferent than what you guys mean.); interesting explanaton though. I've alway thought they were these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floaters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floaters)
Thanks for the replies. :-)
I usually notice them in sunlight against blue sky, and it's a weird flowing patern, and i've seen more fluid like dots in my eye, like water. But it seemed different, like it was chi, etc. I just believe more often there's more mystisism floating around then we think. If ancients and masters were able to harness this chi, why can't we? That's what enegry work should entail, working w/ more abundant and usefull sources of enegry in our day lives.
"The dots always come one at a time. I also see those swirly white things (mabye dfferent than what you guys mean.); interesting explanaton though. I've alway thought they were these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floaters"
Ah, they are called floaters.. these are the 'artifacts' I tried to explain earlier, as one "trick of the eye".. didn't know what to call them though. So thanks for that link. ;)
But the air-prana looks like tiny little white dots, consistently as perfect round(dot) shape with irregular flight pattern. And they seem to move in small bursts.
radman32: That sounds interesting. There seems to be so many of perceiving energies.. and it's hard to tell if we for example are perceiving the same thing in a bit different way, or maybe it's different level of some energy. Anyway, what differentiates us from ancient times and masters is perhaps the education we get. We are taught not to believe or not to make these things part of our daily reality from our very youth, essentially brainwashing us out of our options. Well, most of us anyway. It may be hard to break such conditioning, especially in an environment which tries to preserve it.
-Harrif
"But the air-prana looks like tiny little white dots, consistently as perfect round(dot) shape with irregular flight pattern. And they seem to move in small bursts."
Ah right.
Also, Thomas Campbell says energy doesn't exist; it's just a metaphor... It makes a lot of sense. He discusses it in this interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ii1bBLzv5Q
It doesn't mean what we see isn't real, it's just how we percieve it. This makes me wonder about Robert Bruce; is he just out to sell books...? (I don't mean his energy work book won't work, but he would have to lie about the energy body for it to be effectve and sell it).
Well, everything is possible, even Robert Bruce being a tv-shop kind of a seller. Although I don't personally think so, why? Because of the many things I've either first experienced / seen myself and then read the same things from his books or the things I've read from his books and later been able to confirm myself. It's the kind of credibility for oneself that you can rarely get from anywhere. If you think about many researchs, science 'facts' and most part of things which are taught in schools.. they are just things which have no personal meaning to you, you just have to take someone elses word that they are "true" without ever being able to confirm those claims yourself..
I'm sorry, but I didn't have the time to watch that youtube link which you put, there were so many parts that I don't have the time now.. maybe later. Anyway, the claim energy doesn't exist sounds weird at first. The common consensus seems to be that everything is energy, and that energy can't be destroyed, only transformed. Although, it makes sense to claim that there isn't energy if you take it to next level. If everything is energy, and there is nothing that is NOT energy, then energy can't be something that is found anywhere, because it is all that there is. If there isn't separation between it and not-it, then it's all, thus not something else than anything. Am I making sense here?
Because it is all that there is, it could be referred as a god, but that would still be a metaphor to ease the thinking. I don't know if my reasoning there is any good, but in that sense there really isn't any separate energy which is outside of yourself because all is connected, but because we are used to living in a world of separation (there are opposites to everything, which makes it possible for us to perceive the differences), it is easier to grasp a concept wrapped in this theme, although it really may not be of it. So, labeling energies as different qualities/quantitys/colors/sounds/feels/locations etc. makes it possible and easier for us to perceive, use and manipulate that which is.
-Harrif
Quote from: Harrif on August 25, 2009, 06:01:51
Well, everything is possible, even Robert Bruce being a tv-shop kind of a seller. Although I don't personally think so, why? Because of the many things I've either first experienced / seen myself and then read the same things from his books or the things I've read from his books and later been able to confirm myself. It's the kind of credibility for oneself that you can rarely get from anywhere. If you think about many researchs, science 'facts' and most part of things which are taught in schools.. they are just things which have no personal meaning to you, you just have to take someone elses word that they are "true" without ever being able to confirm those claims yourself..
Cool
Quote from: Harrif on August 25, 2009, 06:01:51I'm sorry, but I didn't have the time to watch that youtube link which you put, there were so many parts that I don't have the time now.. maybe later. Anyway, the claim energy doesn't exist sounds weird at first. The common consensus seems to be that everything is energy, and that energy can't be destroyed, only transformed. Although, it makes sense to claim that there isn't energy if you take it to next level. If everything is energy, and there is nothing that is NOT energy, then energy can't be something that is found anywhere, because it is all that there is. If there isn't separation between it and not-it, then it's all, thus not something else than anything. Am I making sense here?
Ye, using that explanaton, i guess you could call energy conciousness aswell. Makes sense.
Quote from: Harrif on August 25, 2009, 06:01:51Because it is all that there is, it could be referred as a god, but that would still be a metaphor to ease the thinking. I don't know if my reasoning there is any good, but in that sense there really isn't any separate energy which is outside of yourself because all is connected, but because we are used to living in a world of separation (there are opposites to everything, which makes it possible for us to perceive the differences), it is easier to grasp a concept wrapped in this theme, although it really may not be of it. So, labeling energies as different qualities/quantitys/colors/sounds/feels/locations etc. makes it possible and easier for us to perceive, use and manipulate that which is.
-Harrif
Ye, good post. It ties in with what T.C. said.
Hi. I quickly looked at your post. I think those black dots are very possibly eye floaters. I have them too. They seem much as you describe. I think folks that are focusing on these other types of things will tend to notice floaters more too. So, it probably shows a good level of observation. Anyway, I have exchanged a good number of emails with Robert Bruce. He seems to have a great level of knowledge. So far, he has been very helpful for me. I like him very much. Anyway, I am in my 40's. I have over 20 years of so-called OBEs. A few months ago, I started to perceive energy ... it is rather strong for me. I doubted it for so long until I unexpectedly started to perceive it all myself. But, there are some real complexities to perceiving it too ... balancing things physically and emotionally. I think people probably wont perceive things until or to the extent that they are ready. But, to be honest, it is really wonderful. Anyway, as an FYI, years back, I also spent many years seeing black shapes in OBEs that were seemingly trying to attack me. It was very frightful. But, those experiences tend to be rather different than the "floaters" that you seem to be experiencing. Anyway, as an FYI, the way to overcome these dark shapes in OBEs was to focus on love and faith and not to embrace fear. When I started to see them, I would envelop in feelings of love and then say good bye and leave (i.e., turn my focus elsewhere). I think that love and faith are fundamental to all these things ... including OBEing, and perceiving energy, etc. Anyway, I don't really plan to use this site much. I just happened on and felt like replying to this since I have had similar experiences to what you described.
First step...
OP needs to get his eyes examined.
Seriously. :)
Never know what other troubles exist.
I 'see' floaters all the time and they're exactly as you described.
I had it checked out to make sure that they'll cause no other issues.