seeing through closed eyelids

[justin1978]

Hi everyone,
       I have had perhaps 200  out of body experiences and started NEW energy work about 18 months ago to try and improve their quality and longevity.  I very often am able to see the room around me during both secondary circuit NEW work and primary Chakra stimulation through closed eyelids.  I wonder why and how this happens?  Does anybody have similar experiences?  During these experiences I am never having OBE like vibes and am completely awake, it is quite unlike pre-OBE exit sensations.  Just wondering if anyone has some theories on this and has similar sensations during NEW work,

All the best
Aloha
Justin

[CaCoDeMoN]

I've had the same experience when I was meditating. This is called astral sight, and I think that it can be really useful if trained frequently. I think that it occurs automatically when third eye chakra has enough energy, and brainwaves are low enough (7 hz or less). My brother also had such experience, when he used hemisync-like program set up to 5 or 6 hz.

[catsyniki]

Sometimes I lay in bed and my eyes relax and I see images on the celing of my room. Whenever I try to focus on the images to get a closer look, I lose the image. Can anyone help me?

[alexd]

catsyniki:

I've experienced the same thing but I can't focus enough for the images to materialize.

I actually only noticed it after practicing the techniques on this page.

I don't know if it will help you but I'm quite interested too in what significance it has if anyone else has had a similar experience.


Alex

[Kalonek]

It happens to me a lot when i'm meditating, in transe or before sleep. I think it comes from a slight dephasing between etheric or astral and physical body. What i find funny is that i never notice it at first, i would start to see through my eyelids very naturally, and after a few minutes i would suddenly realize what i'm doing But i only see in grey and black most of the time, scarcely in perfect colors (well in fact i just did it this morning lol but it's not usual for me).

[heter]

I am thinking that clairvoyance can help greatly in projection attempts, am I right?

[biggymatt]

catsyniki, I know what your talking about.  But instead of focusing to intensely try letting go a little bit more while holding your intentions in your mind.  When my astral vision kicks in and I try to focus...it gets worse.  But when I go with the flow and only slightly guide it...it quickly comes into focus.

[catsyniki]

I kinda wanna focus on sometime as to see a certain detail that might tell me where I'm at or what I'm seeing exactly and not just the entire image. Just a point in the image that might help me understand what I"m seeing.