sungazing

[You]

An excerpt from NEW

"Energy is absorbed during sleep, as well as through other means like digestion, breathing and sunlight."

So apparently he supports the sunlight option, though he doesn't say HOW exactly (unless he does later, I'm not past chapter 1 yet).

The digestion idea intrigues me... while I know food brings energy, the actual process of digestion USES energy. Either he has his terminology a bit off or he thinks it works differently for the astral body.

We can discuss these here, or I'll start a new thread if there are no responses.

[cheezerman]

I'm glad someone else is interested in this, Tyciol.  

The process of digestion, nutrition, diet, etc.  has fascinated me for quite some time.

My theory is that our source of energy isn't from the food at all.  That we get it from a higher source, and that food is just a catalyst of sorts for this higher source.  

Think about when you eat a really really heavy and large meal, such as a large piece of meat with lots of fat.  Your energy goes down for a while (you feel sleepy) as the first stages of digestion take place.  The energy returns usually when the food leaves the stomach (at least thats what i've observed).

I don't know if anyone has done long term fasts here or not, but I've done a 12 day, a 7 day and several shorter water-only fasts.  After the initial detoxification (which is usually very severe, even in relatively healthy people), your weight starts to level off, and your body goes into an equibliribum.  You start to have boundless amounts of energy, sleep isn't required, you don't need to shower, because your body isn't being polluted or producing wastes.


I've done things where I was in full sun all day long (no sunblock) and not felt the urge to eat at all.  While I was practicing sungazing (got to about 10 minutes) I felt little to no desire to eat until the sun went down, and I was working in an extremely physical job, in which i used to have to eat 10,000 calories or more a day to keep my energy level up.;

In short, I feel that mankind can live off of other sources of energy than food.  Sun, love, whatever, I am convinced it's possible.

Here's a few links:

http://seasilver.threadnet.com/Preventorium/breathar.htm

http://www.breatharian.com/breatharianism2.htm

[You]

Maybe... but energy is just used for operation, it can't be used for rebuilding (it can rebuild, but I doubt it can physically transform into physical matter without a great deal of difficulty). When things are destroyed, they need to be replaced.

The reason we usually feel better is most people overeat, since we split it into 3 meals a day (large ones) instead of spreading it out, and we stop eating when we feel full, yet the signal for being full is delayed a bit which means we were full about 5-10 minutes before we thought we were.

Once it's digested, there's less food directly down the esophagus, so there's less to puke if you get rowdy. The digestion also, once it's gone through the stomach, begins to become energy, but the actual process of breaking it down uses it up.

[psych0naut]

I don't remember what don Juan called it but there was a practice he taught Carlitos that involved facing the Sun at sunset or sunrise.  Your arms should be outstretched and you should trot in place as if you were running towards the sun with open arms.  Juan told Carlos that this was a method to acquire energy.  Anyone remember this?

[You]

A guy here goes by the name Don Juan?

[neutrino]

I think psych0naut means the Don Juan in Carlos Castaneda's books. I remember reading about that technique too, although I'm not sure which book it was in. But aren't his books meant to be a hoax? Although the info in  them could still be valid...

[karnautrahl]

breatharianism stretches my openminded skeptism too far by half. The same goes for gazing into the sun-though I can imagine dawn and dusk gazing with meditation/energy work might have it's own effects .

I'd need to see some ordinary proof of breatharianism. (as opposed to the common "extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof" crap). Is anyone into this enough to do a decent study? Is it possible that there are some practices a simple bit of open minded science could put to rest or settle?

[You]

When people make claims that you can live off of only sunlight, it makes me want to dismiss the practice altogether. I honestly don't know what to make of a lot of Asian 'gurus'.

[Legend]

Interresting.  I'm no expert and can't prove either way, but I do know that the human body can subsist a tremendous amount of pain.  On t.v., I once saw a documentary on a woman who lives purely by eating sand which grew by her tree.  She had done so for 3-5 years.  Don't count on sand to provide you with fibers \

Hello everyone

I also hang out at some raw food forums, and one topic that has come up recently is that of sungazing. ( http://www.rawfoodsupport.com/read.php?f=12&i=35013&t=35013 )
It is claimed by Hira Ratan Manek, a Jain ex-engineer, that gazing directly at the sun in the hour after sunrise or before sunset (when uv levels are low), while standing in direct contact with the earth, will enhance spritual evolution and eliminate the need to eat (because the body can derive energy directly from the sun, rather than via food).

I was wondering if anyone has any direct experience with this, or any comments?

HRMs website is www.solarhealing.com and he also has a yahoo disussion group.

[blackgen]

I remember reading in Swami Sivananda's writings about this. He said that sungazing was an extreme form of tratak (gazing unblinkingly at the same spot) which should be attempted only with the help of a guru. The guru would apply some kind of oil to cool the eyes.

This, you will find in the divine life society's books section (http://www.dlshq.org/download/download.htm). Look for the book on Kundalini Yoga.

Also,  I think one must be wary of treating spiritual knowledge as something that can be bought. It is priceless and one should treat it so.  I basically believe that if one practices long enough, he will know and will be guided by his guru.

I must also add that, being scientific is good, but ridiculing others beliefs isn't.

[You]

If a woman can live on sand through constant examination in a lab to prove it, I'll agree, but she was likely eating (and drinking) other things than sand, it wasn't in a sterile environment.

[Tombo]

Sungazing may damage your eyes! Even if the sun is partly blocked by a thick layer of air in the morning/evening, It  still contains harmful UV-Radiation that can harm your eyes and cause cataract.

[Mystic Cloud]

Sungazing may damage your eyes! Even if the sun is partly blocked by a thick layer of air in the morning/evening, It  still contains harmful UV-Radiation that can harm your eyes and cause cataract.

I suggest you read the link described in this thread made by researchers.

[Tombo]

Which link you mean? there are quite a few in this thread.

[pod_3]

I should say that the cataracts of people who live outdoors come from grit. Under a magnifying glass, they look like rows of scratches. Often, there are particles in those.

Tombo, the thread's getting long,  and the linked pages make it longer. I can't fault you for missing stuff here and there.

I should fnd a link supporting the fact, but I consider it very interesting that plants have been verifiably grown in absolutely nothing but pure, distilled water. The fact has been used by solar gazers to support the transmutation of sunlight into physical sustenance.

Also, I've learnt since my last post that it helps to be conscious of what you're trying to do. In the case of solar gazing, I believe an element of receptivity in your circuits can be established, in order to improve results. Imagining you've been raised against this sort of thing, are you not "seeing" this sustenance through a certian kind of lense?

Once you have established that you can eat radiation for food, you could be transmuting your house's AC from a distance for all it matters.

And why not "gaze", through your skin or aura?

[You]

The link I believe was on the first page.

The web page explains why it must be the eyes and not the skin or hair. I like hair.

[blackgen]

i found a site which might be of interest.... http://www.anandaproject.org/sunyoga/. He teaches sun yoga regularly.