New to NEW and OBE... Advice Please.

[The AlphaOmega]

All I can say is that if at first you don't succeed (which you probably won't), try try again.  Diligence is the key to success, and it may takes months apon months before anything at all happens.  But hey, even if you don't succeed untill you're 80, you can always keep on trying.  After all, if you ever give up, you will never know if the next time you would have succeeded.  So basically just stick with it.

[WalkerInTheWoods]

On Energy Development, it all depends as each person starts at different development levels. You might already have a well developed energy body and it will not take you long to progress. Or you may have a lot of blockages and it might take you longer. There is no time table. Just go with what feels right and natural for yourself. Listen to your body as it knows what is best, but be honest with yourself.

You can try to have OBEs anytime. Start now. Do both, practice energry development and OBEs. There is no reason why you cannot do both.

It is my belief that psychic abilities are available and natural to all of us. It is just a matter of developing them. Just like with OBEs, painting, or basketball, some are better at it than others but everyone can do it.

I will also add that OBEs and Energy Development are journeys, not destinations. There are no ultimate goals where you say, "I made it, I am here, now I am done." It is a continuous process, you keep developing. This is usually true of all things though. Just because you have not experienced a conscious OBE does not mean you are not getting anywhere. Just because you have had an OBE does not mean you have mastered it, know all there is to know, and have reached the end.

[Tombo]

I would try Obeing independently from the energy work. Most people that are obeing never did any energy work. I'm not saying it doesn't help, but if your main gaol is OBE I would invest your main effort there and add the energy work as an part of that effort

[justinf77]

Good advice so far, thanks a lot. As far as starting to practice OBEs now, do you recommend I start with the next section in Bruce's book, or try some other method? I am a little bit lost because the book seems to encourage completion of NEW before practicing OBE, but like you said, I think I should start now. So should I move on to the next section while continuing my current development work?

By the way, last night, as I was going to sleep, I was getting bone-deep tingling all throughout my legs at random times, so I think my energy body is starting to respond well to this!

Justin

[Nick]

Hi justinf77,

Welcome to the Astral Pulse forums! [] Glad you found us! There is little to add to what's already been said. As fallnangel77 mentioned, its all a journey. Just work with the book and work along at a speed that is comfortable to you. Everyone moves at a different pace, it seems.

As you're doing the energy work, keep reading the book. When you are comfortable enough to practice obe, then do so. You have a great guide in Astral Dynamics. Robert's book is by far the most comprehensive one I've come across. []

All the best,

[justinf77]

First of all, I'd like to say that I am so excited to have found these forums, because I have been interested in astral projection for about 7 years now. In this time though, I have never practiced routinely, and never saw any results.

I have finally made the decision to give this a lot of effort, and I am starting with Astral Dynamics as a guide. I have read Adventured Beyond the Body and a couple others as well, but Bruce seems to be the most comprehensive guide.

OK, first things first. I have been practicing the beginning NEW techniques for about a week now. I have not had any big problems with blockages as far as I can tell, because I have felt tingling or light pressure on every area I have worked with so far. I haven't, though, experienced any extremely intense sensations. Is this normal for a beginner? Currently I am stimulating different parts of my energy body (feet, toes, hands, legs, etc). In a couple days I would like to start on the secondary circuit. I did this once before about a year ago for a week and would get a strong sensation by the navel, and I think I was doing it properly. I am hoping for similar results again, except this time I am not stopping my development work. My question is, how long do I work on this full body circuit until I can move on to the primary chakras? I understand that I will be working with the secondary for my whole life, but when can I also incorporate the primary?

Oh boy, more questions

One of my main goals in doing this, besides all of the welcome side effects of energy body development, is to have a successful OBE. When can I start trying to do this while I am developing? Do I have to wait until I feel that my energy body is very well developed, which could take a year or so? I am also really looking forward to developing natural psychic abilities. Have many of you seen this happen, or is it only for a gifted few?

OK, I think that is all for now. I am sure I will think of more quite soon. Thanks a lot for offering your help here.