The third eye, energy channels & OBE

[ImmortalLightBody]

Dear practitioners,

I've tried to open the third eye by several methods but haven't been successful yet. That's why sometimes when my energy body is out during the day time, I can't see anything, the vision is totally dark. Sometimes I can see only when OBEing in the sleep. A person told me that "if you want to see by the energy body when conscious OBE, your third eye must be opened at level that during night time without any light around, closing eyes, you still see bright light like sunshine. At that level, you can see by energy body any time". That's why I really want to open my third eye.

In the book "The Third Eye" (Vernon G. Atkinson), the author wrote that in the past live in Tibet, spiritual masters have a method to open the third eye recently for him, by operating a point between two eyes. And I've read somewhere that in America, some scientists did experiments successfully by flowing power to a point in the central brain of some poeple, and the experimenters were opened their third eye recently, they also have OBE and see other worlds, etc.

If you know where is the center that has scientists like above, please tell me!

Thank you.

[Xanth]

Do you dream normal?

[Stookie]

There's no such thing as an "open" third eye. I think you might be taking the term too literally. If you're already OBE'ing, then you should already be able to "see". A lot of times it's more of a mental block than lack of faculties.

[ImmortalLightBody]

Do you dream normal?

Yes, I dream every night, normally.
However, in the dream, when the energy body separates out from the physical body, I see only the scenery & people in this ground. But when I fly down underground, I don't see anything. And flying up to the sky, I see only bright yellow light around. A person told me that flying down deeply, we will come in hell, and flying up highly, we'll come in heaven. That's in sleep. However, if the energy body separates out consciously during the day time, I don't see anything even in this ground. So I think my third eye doesn't work well.

I think in the past, people had methods to activate the third eye very fast, and nowadays, some centers or universities find the method to do it (not by operating like the past but flowing power to the third eye, by machine).

[ImmortalLightBody]

There's no such thing as an "open" third eye. I think you might be taking the term too literally. If you're already OBE'ing, then you should already be able to "see". A lot of times it's more of a mental block than lack of faculties.

Perhaps the word "open" is equal "activate". Because I read somewhere that the third eye has been degenerating in human for a long period. In the past it was close to the forehead and it worked naturally in consciousness, but now it is close to the central brain and it only work in the sleep or deep meditation in sub-consciousness. And attaining deep meditation is very difficult, so I'm looking for a faster way.

[Xanth]

You certainly do have a lot of preconceived notions about all this metaphysical stuff.

Might I ask where you've attained all this information?

[CFTraveler]

Hi Immortal Light Body.
I think there is a lot of opinion masked as 'fact' in metaphysical theory nowadays, some of it due to religious ideas, some due to ideas in biology in the early part of the twentieth century. 
For example, I have read that the 'third eye' is actually more active in modern postindustrial society, because many people in this type of society pursue the types of jobs where they have to use the mind more than the body, while in agrarian societies you could say that the ground chakra is more stimulated than the 'third eye' complex, so there is no 'set truth' about whether the third eye is more or less active in modern times.
I would say it depends on the person, what they do most of the time, and how they think.
Of course, it depends in whether you think of the third eye as an energy structure, as a representation of a specific part of your psychology, or as a gland with a specific biological job.

Now, there is a tendency to equate the pineal gland to the third eye, and there is also the idea (wrong, IMO) that it is deteriorated- and this idea comes from the observation that it is considered to be a vestigial actual eye- but I think this is not necessarily true, because even though it is mechanically like an eye in that it has photoreceptors, it has been shown to become active at times- so I do think it is active and works, just not with visible light.  Maybe some other type of radiation. 

The fact is that we don't know exactly what it's supposed to do- but every once in a while it does it.

Now, does that mean the pineal gland is the third eye?  I don't know, but it's an interesting subject.

[ImmortalLightBody]

Some years ago I practiced with some groups, and most information I've had was from them, but then I was out because of the unsuccessfulness.

I read the information about activating the third eye by flowing power to the central brain in the US on a newspaper, and I think it was true because nowadays, a lot of machines that measure bio energy are producing (http://www.item-bioenergy.com/products.html). Maybe scientists understand exactly how the third eye works in the brain. So instead of practicing for many decades, I hope I can simply go to a center and sit down under a machine for some minutes.

And I hope a scientist like that is on this forum.

[ImmortalLightBody]

Hi Immortal Light Body.
I think there is a lot of opinion masked as 'fact' in metaphysical theory nowadays, some of it due to religious ideas, some due to ideas in biology in the early part of the twentieth century. 
For example, I have read that the 'third eye' is actually more active in modern postindustrial society, because many people in this type of society pursue the types of jobs where they have to use the mind more than the body, while in agrarian societies you could say that the ground chakra is more stimulated than the 'third eye' complex, so there is no 'set truth' about whether the third eye is more or less active in modern times.
I would say it depends on the person, what they do most of the time, and how they think.
Of course, it depends in whether you think of the third eye as an energy structure, as a representation of a specific part of your psychology, or as a gland with a specific biological job.

Now, there is a tendency to equate the pineal gland to the third eye, and there is also the idea (wrong, IMO) that it is deteriorated- and this idea comes from the observation that it is considered to be a vestigial actual eye- but I think this is not necessarily true, because even though it is mechanically like an eye in that it has photoreceptors, it has been shown to become active at times- so I do think it is active and works, just not with visible light.  Maybe some other type of radiation. 

The fact is that we don't know exactly what it's supposed to do- but every once in a while it does it.

Now, does that mean the pineal gland is the third eye?  I don't know, but it's an interesting subject.

Wow thank you CFTtraveller, I exactly wanted to talk about the pineal gland but I forgot its name. And I think it is at the same position of eye-chakra, and they are two in one. Maybe we can activate it by affecting energy body (by bio energy) as well as physical body (by power in a safe way).

[Stookie]

There may be better ways I'm not aware of, but I've found the best way to strengthen the "third eye" is through concentrated visualization. The more and better you get at it and can hold it, the easier it gets. It might not be as fast as you would like, but visualization puts direct focus/energy on the brow chakra, which increases activity there.

[personalreality]

totally agree with stookie.

when you use your "inner mind's eye" or your inner view screen (ie, visualizing in an "empty space in your head") it really gets things flowing.  the 3rd eye is associated with this type of inner vision.  As you strengthen your ability to focus in this "mind space" then it becomes much easier to receive intuitions in a visual way, as well as seeing/reading "energies".

[TheLight]

And I've read somewhere that in America, some scientists did experiments successfully by flowing power to a point in the central brain of some poeple, and the experimenters were opened their third eye recently, they also have OBE and see other worlds, etc.

If you know where is the center that has scientists like above, please tell me!

Thank you.

Hey LightBody,

I'm not aware of this experiment, but sounds interesting!

The central point your referring to is the pineal gland. The pineal gland resides in the center of the brain and is responsible for clairvoyance seeing. The pineal gland has crystals within it, or is made of crystals and when it is stimulated enough.. the pineal gland can be used to see other worlds, parallel worlds, dimensions, etc. Its usually associated with the 6th or 7th chakra. Doesn't matter which chakra you assign to it as long as the focus and intention is there.

Scientists flowing power to the pineal gland is more of a primitive way to open the 3rd eye.. you can just use your own energy for this. Basically, your energy stimulates the pineal gland and the crystals within the pineal gland can reflect the light- this is how you begin to see lights and colors behind your closed eyes..

This is the early stages of developing clairvoyant seeing. When meditating, at first you may only see darkness or blackness behind the eyes. By stimulating the pineal gland/3rd eye you will begin to see colors.. faces, shapes, objects, places may begin to take a form.. however it may look "shaky" at first and may not take a very solid form.. once your able to do this you can then tune into other awareness of consciousness and the lights and images begin to take a very "solid" form. This experience can happen during a meditation, but the pineal gland/3rd eye will not be so active during normal wakeful consciousness.

Since you are perceiving energy within the 3rd eye, you will need to have enough energy built up in order to have the 3rd eye always "open". To have a permanent opening of the 3rd eye (for clairvoyance and other abilities) during normal wakeful consciousness the kundalini energy should be brought from the base of the spine, to the top of the head, or the pineal gland. The kundalini energy is already there and active, but thru meditation, yoga, sex and chi kung (qi gong) one can build up enough energy in the body and cause the kundalini energy to rise from the base of the spine to the pineal gland. Spontaneous kundalini risings are known to occur. People that have intense emotional experiences or traumas, or the use of drugs may also experience the rising.

When the 3rd eye is fully open, you may not have to meditate or close your eyes to see other worlds of existence. You could perceive/see energies with your eyes open consciously. The 3rd eye can "overlay" what you're seeing with your physical eyes. Or it may just happen once your eyes are closed. Cultivating enough energy to bring it to the top of the head is how one can fully perceive, see energies, spirits, other worlds without "concentrating" or going into a meditative state. All this stuff already exists around us- its just the ability of the person to perceive such things.

In all spiritual practice cultivating energy is important- we are energy beings. Building up enough energy thru Chi Kung, yoga, sex and meditations will enhance any and all psychic abilities. CAll the energy whatever u want.. but cultiving enough energy and bringing it up the spine to the head can increase and enhance psychic abilities.. Most refer to it as kundalini meditations, because their are specific meditations to raise the energy..

[ImmortalLightBody]

Thank you friends.

I've heard that most people who can practice successfully on the spiritual way are those who have balanced hemispheres, including meditation, bio energy, yoga, chi kung ...

But most of us have unbalanced left & right brains, we work more in the left or right, so we are very difficult to go deeply into meditation or visualization.

For me, I mostly breathe through the left nostril, it means my right channel, ida nadi, always close that make the right nostril close and my right brain works lesser than the left.

I have tried a lot to make my both nostrils balanced, by doing asana, pranayama, sleeping in the opposite side, etc, but for many years, the unbalance hasn't improved yet.

Do you have any method to change this thing?

[NoY]

imagine half of your brain is pink and half of it is blue and then mix them up until
its all purple do this to balance your mind

once a day should be enough, also cleanse your entire energy system with a burning purple flame let it start at the heart and then fill your body with purple fire
again once a day should be enough, this exorcise will also strengthen your third eye because its a visualisation exorcise

:NoY:

[TofuAttack]

For me, I mostly breathe through the left nostril, it means my right channel, ida nadi, always close that make the right nostril close and my right brain works lesser than the left.
Do you have any method to change this thing?

it is normal for humans to breathe through only one nostril at a time, its called the nasal cycle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_cycle

though i believe it's possible to train yourself to breathe through both at the same time.