Zapped While Doing Energy Work To AP

[Tia]

I dont understand.  If you are raising all that energy and not using it ie; not going OBE - how is it energy depletion?  Sounds to me like overload, but that is just a guess as I really dont know.  It is possible to get a bit overloaded, or maybe it's a result of clearing blockages and getting depleted that way?  What exactly did robert say?  

I remember from 'Astral Dynamics' - if you're going to OBE, no half hearted attempts, go all the way or dont try.  

As for the Negs, I think they come around whenever someone is first learning energy work - I think it's to put you off course.  It put me off for a while aswell, I know one person who gave up entirely because of it.  I think it's a barrier/test you have to go through before you get access to all that knowledge - once again, I dont know this for sure, I'm just summing up what I learn as I go along, all subject to change.  It was a good thing for me, in a way, as I am learning more control over my own mind (very neccessary), not to be distracted by negative thoughts/feelings etc.,  I found it important for me not to think too much about Negs, if you have to deal with something at a particular moment, just deal with it best you can.  If you cant, ask for help, that's all I can do and I'm not going to think anymore about what if's...  Chances are, it's all a bluff anyway.  I have  got into the habit of saying a little prayer for guidance with all my meditations/energy works - at the end of the day the energy isn't mine, I'm just trying to make the best use of it with the little knowledge that I have.  And I'm very specific about where I want that guidance to come from.  As for your neighbour's daughter and her bedroom Neg, I wouldn't worry about that but I certainly wouldn't enter any dwelling that had a definite Neg.

I have never had the shocks that you speak of but after feeling the strength of energy - I dont doubt anything is possible.  I am not attempting OBE, getting familiar with the energy is about all I can handle right now.

[Two Bears]

Hello Tia; my sister.

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I remember from 'Astral Dynamics' - if you're going to OBE, no half hearted attempts, go all the way or dont try.  
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A lot of people can not get past the fear. Isn't this a bit condescending?

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As for the Negs, I think they come around whenever someone is first learning energy work - I think it's to put you off course.  It put me
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You are two thirds correct.

1. They are attracted to high energy.
2. They do try frighten us and prevent us from reclaiming our heritage.
3. Like attracts like. If people are afraid; of being hurt; the negative entities will be attracted like a magnet.

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I have never had the shocks that you speak of but after feeling the strength of energy - I dont doubt anything is possible.  I am not attempting OBE, getting familiar with the energy is about all I can
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You will sooner or later.

Two Bears

Aloha nui loa
Received the title "master" 8 times and still trying to master myself.

[cainam_nazier]

Okay, I do not know about the reason for the energy depleation but I have had some similar experiences.   I have not yet been shocked but I also have not yet been able to get fully out of body.

Now voices and noises I know about.  Have you, how can I say, been "gifted" any other abilities?
I call it "the sight".  I know I tend to see, feel, and know things that others do not.  Some are things that I should not know.

I have experienced some odd things during and after deep meditation.  Voices calling my name, conversations other people seem to be having, cracking, grouning, and thumping sounds on the wall.

From what I have experienced some of this is from me, some from people I know, and some from else where.  I believe that I am the one hitting and pushing on my walls in an attempt to get out of myself.  I have heard some other noises but I do not know where they came from.  I have developed a natural "bubble" for protection and have successfully pushed things out of different places where I lived that were there before me. And so on..

The energy depletion that I get doesn't seem to be getting drained by some thing else but rather because of some of my other abilities that I need to work with and around for full AP I use more energy as I reach that point.  But also for me there seems to be something else tieing me to my body and I am using a lot of energy because of it.


David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com

[LadyLea]

David, I have experienced other abilities since the age of four.  I have been able to sense other spirits around.  When I was 6 I was visiting my grandparents.  They had a good deal of land that was filled with "strange feelings".  One day I was sitting on the back porch, looking at the distant hills.  Suddenly, I felt like I was being watched.  I focused my attention on one hill in particular and without knowing what was going to come out of my mouth, I blurted, "Indians are up there."  My great-grandmother said that the land used to belong to the Choctow Indians.  That was my first experience like that but not the last.  Also, at times, I can sense what a person is thinking or feeling.  Not their exact words but impressions with a image occasionally.  Some other things occurred at an early age.  

However, when I was raising energy--it was not a half-hearted attempt like someone said--I have never experienced the sensations of that much energy before.

I am learning but not everyone's pace at certain abilities are as fast as some others here.  I don't fret over these strange noises.  But they are kind of irritating when you are first starting out, huh?  

If your focus your life on hate, anger, and regret, it is only your fault for what you get.

[Tia]

Apologies, that sentence "I remember from 'Astral Dynamics' - if you're going to OBE, no half hearted attempts, go all the way or dont try."  It does sound condescending (thankyou 2 Bears) which was not my intention, and I am in no way implying that "someone" does half hearted attempts at OBE, it was just an expression albeit a bad one.  So please ignore it as I have spent some time trying to write an explanation and got myself into an awful tangle.  The rest of my post was obviously superflous aswell but the 'edit' button doesn't work so I can't remove it, there it stays as a reminder for me to be careful how I express myself in future...

[LadyLea]

Hey, guys!  I began doing the ROPE technique as described on RB's Treatise on Astral Projection and this is what happened.

I was lying down, raising energy to AP.  I had not tried to do this in years.  My head, where I felt the energy building, began to tingle, vibrate, and I started to feel an exit coming.  The sensations were too intense, and since I was not used to the sensations, I stopped.  I kept a glass of milk by my bed(I heard Wiccans say that eating and drinking after energy work helps close the chakras).  When I touched the styrofoam cup, nothing happened.  BUt when I placed it on my lips, I got a shock.  It did not hurt but it took me by surprise.  This happened every time(I tried this 3 times) after I did the energy work without being able to go out of body.  Then, I began hearing thumping on my walls and a voice calling my name.  A day or so later I noticed I was getting more and more tired, depressed.  Then, I started to sense a bad vibe near me.  I stopped everything and have not tried to do much of anything since.  I emailed Robert and I agree with him.  It is energy depletion.  But my main concern is this: am I causing the depletion or is it an entity?

Has anyone else experienced the shock on the lips?  Is this a normal occurrence for beginners?  Is there any negs around me?  If there are negs around, given my history, how do I proceed my work on these abilities safely?  I am not scared but I get frustrated from trying and having these things routinely occurring?  BTW, one of our neighbors has a teenager that has dabbled in magick.  The mother says something is in the girl's bedroom(this happened to me as a teen as well--not practicing magick but a malicious presence in the room).  Could it feel or sense what I am doing and be curious?  ANy ideas or suggestion would be appreciated!

If your focus your life on hate, anger, and regret, it is only your fault for what you get.