The Astral Pulse

I had my first experience of healing today.  I had such a blocked nose (allergies) that I just started 'stirring' my sinuses and around my nostrils.  I didn't raise any energy but I felt energy sensations in response to the stirring.  I then got that almost painful ache/ relief when your sinuses open up - it worked, immediately.  I also got a rush of energy in my head so maybe I overdid things, I usually do.  Do you do the full body circuit?  When you bring the energy down over your face take it through your eyeballs.

Good luck with your experiment.  I think that 'intention' is real important in these exercises, as in what you intend the end result to be, ie; clear sight.  And then let the energy figure out exactly how to do it, I dont think it's necessary to guide it with imaginative instructions - but I could be way off in my thinking, so I am very interested to hear your progress with this.

I dont know about no 5.  If you are heading for exams you will be under stress which affects the eyesight.  Dont rush things, let the healing take it's natural course, wear those glasses in the meantime.    

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Do you do the full body circuit?  When you bring the energy down over your face take it through your eyeballs.

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That's a great idea, thanks!

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I think that 'intention' is real important in these exercises, as in what you intend the end result to be, ie; clear sight.  And then let the energy figure out exactly how to do it, I dont think it's necessary to guide it with imaginative instructions

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I don't know about this either. I've been wondering too about where to draw the line. Should one be completely result-oriented, and just send energy to an area, or should one be slightly process oriented too? Does specifying process jam things up? Not sure.

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I dont know about no 5 ...  Dont rush things, let the healing take it's natural course, wear those glasses in the meantime.

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In my understanding, glasses don't "correct" the problem, they compensate for it. That's why wearing glasses can cause your eyesight to deteriorate further,  because one's eye muscles don't have to work as hard, and they atrophy. In my thinking, not wearing corrective lenses would "put some pressure on the system" and "stir things up" -- at the very least remind me to do the exercises on my eyes more. Once again, not sure.

Thanks for your stimulating comments, Tia.

Mark

I to am fairly near-sighted, and I hate wearing glasses, and even more contact lenses, no way jose on the latter...   but I need to wear glasses when I read or in front of the puter, otherwise my eyes gets easily tired and well don´t enjoy that....  as long as I don´t have to walk around wearing them they don´t annoy me, but hey, wouldn´t it be great if one could make the eyes work optimal without any aids, through energy work...  sounds a bit tough to accomplish but I am sure it CAN be done. Question is if it takes a trained senior yogi or "just a  western boy" with strong intentions/will and equipped with some "energy ability"- like you and me...

Couldn´t hurt trying though!!  So keep trying it and report back if you experience any change (hard not to keep it subjective but still..)
If I were you I wouldn´t stop wearing glasses or lenses though, that is probably how I got my eye inflammation 6 years back, when I didn´t know I needed glasses.  I had to live with that inflammation for 3-4 years, it went chronic (really, really nasty!!).  I got rid of it with the help of "energy work" though, not "performed" by myself - but still, it was energy work, energy blockages were removed by a very skilled kinesiologist (sp?) and my eyes got better and today they are good (except from the slight near-sightness but that I can live with)....

 Well, be well // Qui-Gon

- Your focus determines your reality -

Hi Kifyre,

Another area you could look into is the works of William Horatio Bates.  Have you heard of him?  He was a New York occultist who came up with a startling theory - one opthamologists and glasses manufactures like to suppress.  He theorised that the six external eye muscles - the ones you use when you look up/down/left/right - have the ability to change the shape of the eyeball. In other words NATURALLY ADJUSTING EYESIGHT.  He believed the external muscle may pull the eye out of shape resulting in near- or long-sighted problems.  Based on that idea he came up with a set of simple exercises, kind of like going to the gym but for your eyeballs, and proceeded to scare the industry because they worked.

I knew a guy who was using these exercises and in three months was able to get about without his old, heavy glasses.  And he believes his eyes will continue to improve.  He was actually seeing a professional who taught these techniques.  But the exercises themselves are really simple and take only five minutes a day.

The book Invisibility by Steve Richards touches this topic on page 54.

Try these sites:
http://i-see.org/perfect_sight/      
(This site has the original treatise Bates wrote online.  Haven't read it yet, but I'm sure the exercise will be in there somewhere)

http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/g2603/0001/2603000190/p1/article.jhtml?term=
(This site has a four page article and summarises some of the techniques - it'll give you an idea about it anyway)

http://www.visioneducators.org/DrBates.htm

Howdy,

I'd go a little slow at first, just because working with such delicate areas of your body (eyes, frontal lobe, etc), may create some unwanted side effects (headache and the like).  But, the best of you luck to you, and like all things when working with energy...just let it happen!

Jason

You may also like to try the herbs

Bilberry, carrot, and eyebright, these are good for vision and may aide in manifesting your intention into the physical.

All the best.

Thanks, everyone. I will strongly consider all these suggestions...and any forthcoming ones.

Mark

Hi kifyre,

I will watch this space with interest. Please report back with your findings... might be worthwhile looking into for the sake of my eyes too!

-- Muzza

My curiosity most certainly peeked.   I had not yet thought of any attempts like that.  It would be a major plus for since it is no longer advisable for me to do anything even as simple as walking around the house with out my glasses.  Vision is worse than 20/400  which is the big "E" on most charts. I can not see, as in it's not there for me without my glasses.

I do have a question for those who wear glasses and project.  Do you need them when you project?  Or have anythoughts compensating for your eyes?

I have found that for me it is the only way I know if I am awake or not.  I guess it is some what of a reality check.  I'm having a crewed up dream and then I realize I am not wearing my glasses and the dream changes slighty and it looses the fear effect.  But I have had other dreams(?), visions, and experiences where I thought I was asleep but the thing that threw it off was I could not see at first, and had to compensate for my eyes.

I am going to do some research on this one.




"Justice is blind guided only by it friend..Truth."

David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com

Howdy doo :)

"Take off your glasses and see" by Jacob Liberman and there's another by an Aussie lady... (I thought it wasJjanet Bates, unrelated I think, to Willy) and there's an eye exercise video out too....

I have read that Emotional Freedom techniques can be effective for improving eyesight by balancing the energy meridians. (I am trying it next month for some other issues.) There's a website, http://www.emofree.com/default.htm  and an Aussie one with a good pdf file/book - http://www.lifeworks-group.com.au/index.html  This one also has some NLP exercises but you hafta search to find them.

I am shortsighted (very) -- without my glasses I could join the paraolympics, being legally blind LOL  The thing is, I can function/cope, and did quite well without my glasses until I was FORCED to wear all the time... now I feel like I struggle and when I go thru phases of wanting to deal with it, I feel insecure without them, and can't seem to hear as well My eyesight was apparrantly the result of an event that happened 34 years ago, when I was born in PNG, very premature and no humidicribs. It's incredible to think my eyesight didn't deteriorate until I was 12, so it makes ya wonder just what affected me then could have such a delayed reaction.... But the reason I know I can heal myself dates back to my feral grass-smoking early twenties days when someone slipped me something heavier (unbeknownst to me) and I had perfect eyesight for two days afterwards, I could NOT wear my glasses.... it was quite amazing feeling, although I was no longer under dire influences!

When I dream, I have perfect eyesight and don't even think of my physical vision! Same with low level and spontanneous OBE's I have managed to pull off.

Robert healed a child of poor eyesight, it is in one of his articles on NEW or healing.

What else... hmmm.... go for it! It takes discipline. I would also strongly recommend doing Robert's Belief System Cleanse... I call it the BS-cavator... because you might have core beliefs your eyesight cannot change, when the facts are that people out there improve their eyesight radically through exercises, herbs, etc etc et al.

Yes, please keep us all posted!

Donni


"A balance of perspective must be maintained in order to preserve reasonable logic and truth." Robert the Brute, 2002

Well so far.  I have read a good chunk of the material by Dr. Bates fellow.  It is his belief that most if not all eye disoders stem from mental stress or some form.  Stating that the eye was not designed for the use it gets in modern time.  Which was the 20's for him if I remember correctly.  He also states that the major key to better eyesight is to first get yout eyes and mind to relax.  I have been doing excersises for this only so far.  When doing energy work and meditation I have been resting the energy on my eyes for a brief moment or two, just enough to start mild sensations.  I then remove it because I do not want to cause damage since I am experimenting.  This I have been doing for almost a week now.  I have notice a slight increase in vision when I first wake up.  I can actually read my clock for the first 30 secs or so.  But it fades rather quickly.

I have not yet gone through the core image process yet to check for anything else that is there.  It is however an interesting idea to check there for things relating to the eyes.  I plan on doing this soon but want to gather more information of the process and build up a little more concentration for it.  From what I read in another forum Mr. Bruce had some difficulties getting it started.

That is it for now for me.  Hopefully I will have more and more positive info later.


"Fear is the mind killer."


David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com

Just a quick update:

My vision has improved slightly, subjectively and objectively, to the point that I need a new prescription, as diagnosed by my optometrist (or however you spell it). Nothing miraculous yet, but I haven't worked all that hard at it (Maybe I will now!). I'm keeping my fingers crossed, and I'll post updates in the months ahead.

Mark

I used to have a stigma. One eye used to be short sighted the other long. I used to have to wear glasses alot but one time someone suggested something to me that made alot of sense. They suggested take up smokeing marjuana. It releaves alot of pressure on the eyeballs(red eye). I have been smoking now for the last 2 yrs(moderate not heavy)and have not had to use glasses at all now. Interesting the other day a friend of mine who smokes marjuana said that most people he knows have very good vision and dose not meet many people who do smoke with glasses at all.

Joshcatz

A few years ago, maybe 6 or 7, I came across a book about an eastern monk who was born legally blind. He was not totally blind just legally, I think anyway. He somehow healed his eyes so that now he has perfect vision. I wish I would have bought it but at the time I did not know much about energy or many of the things I know now so I sort of thought it was a scam. I do not remember the book but you might still be able to find it somewhere.

I am glad to hear that your eye sight has improved. Are you still doing the same thing or have you tried something different?

I have had glasses since I was in the 5th grade, I am 24 now. I would love to be able to get my eyes back to good vision, I cannot see very well at all without them. Keep us informed everyone as to what is helping.

I think im going to have to get in on this, my eyesight isn't getting any better either and im tired of wearing glasses. I think im going to try the bates method along with NEW.

I have a strange life and,
I want rings dammit!!

Just let me say an great big thank you for starting this topic and for posting about the Bates method. Since I saw this topic last week I have done some research and found this book entitled Improve Your Vision Without Glasses Or Contact Lenses by several doctors. I was SO surprised at what I have found. You HAVE to read this book. This seems to have been brought about by Dr. Bates but this book is modern, published in 1996. They come forward with facts about the eyes that other eye doctors do not want you to know. They show that corrective lenses basicly do more harm than good. Stop wearing them except when you need to, like driving, cooking, etc. These doctors are with the American Vision Institute and have worked with over 10,000 people to improve their eyesight with several simple exercises. They say that vision is something we learn and that our eyesight gets bad because of our habits and environment. These exercises teach your eyes to see again.  These are not time consuming but things you can do while sitting at red lights etc. They also give exercises to do for about 1/2 an hour each day for a month and say that you should see some improvement. I plan on doing these exercises along with some energy work. If my eyes improve even a little bit it will be worth it. Again I suggest that everyone reads this book as it has some interesting facts in it. I will post a link to it. It is not a long book either, just a little over 100 pages for easy reading and then a few pages of charts. I read it all over the weekend.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684814382/ref=pd_sim_books_1/103-1237166-6836650

I hope we see a shift to this vision theropy instead of the "Just deal with it" attitude that is dominate right now.

GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!!

Here is some of what I have been doing:

First, spending time in the sun with naked eyes, and generally keeping my glasses off and contacts out as much as possible. But this isn't always practical.

Here's something you can do right now:

With or without lenses, become aware of your eyes. Feel the shape of them in the sockets. Feel them sliding around. Feel the inside of the eyeball, the nerves extending back into your brain. Whenever you get frustrated with your vision, whenever your vision causes negative emotions, just gently bring your awareness to your eyes. You may feel slight energy sensations.

Second, bring awareness to what you are viewing. Allow energy to embrace it.

As you bring consciousness to your viewing, negative emotions connected with sight or anything at all might well up. Watch them, accept them, but don't get caught up in them. Just gently, repeatedly bring awareness back to eyes/face and subject being viewed.

The above is most important. Make it habit. Allow (negative) emotions associated with sight to be an automatic trigger for conscious awareness of the act of viewing. Be aware that you are not your eyes. Your consciousness is receiving sensory input.

And some other fun stuff:

Once you start thinking about your vision, and start doing some of the above, you might start to get strange food cravings, for vitamin A foods, or whatever. Unless they're really sugary (in which case you might want to listen again [:)}), satisfy those cravings!

Flatten your hands and bring your fingers together.  Place one set of fingers over the other, so that left fingers point northeast, and right fingers point northwest. The little finger on one side rests on the other hand where the fingers join the palm. Place the fingers over the third eye, so your palms cover your eyes. Don't let your hands place pressure on the eyeballs. Your hands will rest on your face, but there will be "domes" around your eye sockets. If you can manage it, block out all light. Bring awareness to palms and eyes. If you start to feel energy sensations, in, out, or around, you might want to gently coax them to greater strength. But listen to your body.

Mark

Hey, fallnangel77, I'd just like to ask: is that book you mention on the link the same one that is for free in the link first mentioned about the William Horatio Bates' methods (ie: http://i-see.org/perfect_sight/ )?

I too have eyesight problems, my eyes are very bad I can't do anything without my contact lenses/glasses.
Instead of healing them myself I thought about contacting a spirit, such as Marbas and asking for his help.  Has anyone ever thought about this? I'm still training in spirit communication but I'm hoping to get some results soon.

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Hey, fallnangel77, I'd just like to ask: is that book you mention on the link the same one that is for free in the link first mentioned about the William Horatio Bates' methods (ie: http://i-see.org/perfect_sight/ )?

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No they are not the same book. I have not read the free online book but they might be similar. This book that I mention above is pretty simple and straight to the point. Unfortunately I have slacked off on doing the exercises, mostly because I am so busy at work, so I cannot say how well it works. Most of them seem to be like others I have heard about. Though while I was doing the exercises my eyes felt a lot better than they ever have and at times I would get some clarity without my glasses. It is pretty cool when something very blurry comes into focus for a few seconds.

(Must start doing exercises again!)

Kifyre, this book says that you should use sun glasses whenever you are out in the sun for protection from UV light. I am not sure how important this is but they seem to think UV is harmful to the eyes. They suggest using a strong lamp and sitting it in front of your face with your eyes closed for a few minutes each day as oppose to using the sun. Just thought I would let you know what the book suggests.

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Originally posted by Apocalypse Crow:
Hey, fallnangel77, I'd just like to ask: is that book you mention on the link the same one that is for free in the link first mentioned about the William Horatio Bates' methods (ie: http://i-see.org/perfect_sight/ )?

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No they are not the same book. I have not read the free online book but they might be similar. This book that I mention above is pretty simple and straight to the point. Unfortunately I have slacked off on doing the exercises, mostly because I am so busy at work, so I cannot say how well it works. Most of them seem to be like others I have heard about. Though while I was doing the exercises my eyes felt a lot better than they ever have and at times I would get some clarity without my glasses. It is pretty cool when something very blurry comes into focus for a few seconds.

(Must start doing exercises again!)

Kifyre, this book says that you should use sun glasses whenever you are out in the sun for protection from UV light. I am not sure how important this is but they seem to think UV is harmful to the eyes. They suggest using a strong lamp and sitting it in front of your face with your eyes closed for a few minutes each day as oppose to using the sun. Just thought I would let you know what the book suggests.

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Thanks for bringing that up. I only spend a few hours in the sun a day, but for anyone who wants to know more, I found some stuff doing a search for "sunlight eyes" at mercola.com. I'm sure there're many more perspectives out there on the web.

Mark

It has been a while since this thread was posted to. Because I have friends who wear glasses and because of the possibility I might need them for reading, it seemed like a good idea to ask for an update. How have the experiments been progressing?

I am sorry to report that I have not been doing the exercises to improve eyesight. I was not using energy to heal, atleast not as the basis, but exercises presented in the book I mentioned. I just did not have time to do the exercises. Ok really the exercises take very little time so I guess I just let myself slip. When I was doing them I did notice a slight improvement. My eyes are pretty bad so it was nothing like I could throw my glasses away. I still believe that if one sticks to it and does them that it will atleast help some.

It is kind of odd that you brought this subject back up. Like I said I had not been doing or thinking much about this for awhile until about a week ago. I have been wanting to start back with this and since things have sort of calmed down in my life I should be able to start back.

Tom, if you do not wish to purchase the book I might be able to write the basic exercises down and post them here, as they are not that complicated. Though I still suggest buying the book if you can as it should not be expensive (I think I paid $11 at a local bookstore) and it gives specific exercises for different eye conditions. They suggest the basic exercises for everyone but the half hour sessions would be different for me and you as I see fine up close but cannot see far away.

I will try to stick with it this time and report back my progress. I hope others that have been trying have had more success.

Hey all,

I'm making progress. I can now read the time on my clock from about 12 feet away (it's very blurry, but consistently readable). There was NO way I could do this before. Subjectively, I've had extreme improvement too (recognizing people from a distance, etc).

Here's what I'm doing:

1. Bathing eyes in awareness.
2. Palming
3. Wearing my glasses as little as possible, but not straining eyes.
4. My glasses give me about 20/30 - 20/40 correction. I argued for reduced strength lenses. (say you get headaches or something). 20/40 is legal for driving under all conditions (in the US), but be careful! I have to be a little extra alert.

The Most Important Technique:

5. Take a candle or small flashlight with the top removed (so it acts like a candle) and place it approx 15 ft. away. if you're using a candle, reduce air currents so the flame is stable. Stand by the light switch if convenient.

The flame/light will be a big circular blur. Notice how the blur gets bigger and smaller as your focus changes.

Try tracing your eyes around the circle, it's pretty isn't it? Notice how the focus will change as you observe the details of the circle.

Repeat:
Close your eyes and let them relax. (Maybe transfer awareness to third eye.) Then open your eyes. They will lock onto the light and attempt to focus. Repeat this, over and over. The circle will begin to get smaller over minutes, and weeks.

Try turning on the light, notice how the circle immediately shrinks. Flick the light on and off leaving time for your focus to adjust.

Circle not shrinking sometimes? Do heart breathing as you work. (Feel yourself breathing with your heart.) Trick your eyes into relaxing. With your eyes closed, pretend you're looking far off into the distance. This'll probably help with energetic development too, if you try and retain afterimages, and pay attention to what's behind your eyes, and especially if you transfer awareness to your third eye to get your eyes to relax in between opening.

Don't strain, after your eyes pinpoint the target, they relax to get focus. Farsight focus is a relaxing mechanism. Tensing up won't work, it'll impede progress. Don't "grr" when you open your eyes and the light starts to shrink, just let it shrink. (Ok, maybe grr just a little. )

Again, it's been 4 months and finally I can't ignore the improvement! Please ask if you have questions about technique.  I do this for five minutes a few times a day. Whenever I need a break from something else. If my eyes feel strained I do palming or sunning (eyes closed!!!!).

Eventually I'll get an eye exam and I'll post any change. With 20/40-20/30 correction, I'm -2.5 and -4.5.

Oh, one last thing. When you're outside without corrective eyewear and you look at a far object, notice the anxiety in your heart area. Don't let it keep you from looking far. Do heart breathing or other techniques to gently alleviate it. When you look into the distance, you are expanding your energetic/perceptual/emotional field. This can be painful after having it compressed by emotional trauma and then cemented by eyewear. Some might say this is the key to it all. (See "Take of Your Glasses and See" by Jacob Liberman)

All the best,

Mark

P.S. I apologize for waiting so long to post this. I was discouraged for a bit because I could never tell if anything was really]/i] working (was I imagining the improvement or getting used to blurry vision?) then shocked when I walked into my room and could see my clock.

kifyre, thank you for the post. I am glad you have seen improvement! It sounds like the basics of your exeriences are similar to what I have been doing, or suppose to be doing. I have not tried using a candle but I might start.

I will list some of the exercises that you can do during the day whenever you get a free minute, or to integrate into your daily life. First off, it should be obvious but whenever it is not necessary to wear your glasses, such as when you are not driving, cooking, working with machines, something that can be dangerous if you cannot see, you should not wear them.

1) Roll your eyes in complete circles one way and then another. This is to help relax your muscles and also to help with your ... um I am not going to try to spell it ... your side vision.

2) Hold your index finger up and keep your eyes focused on it. Move your finger back and forth from your nose out to arms length. Keep your eyes focused and following your finger.

3) Blinking. Close your eyes tightly for a few seconds, holding them shut using only your eye muscles. Also blink quicky a few times.

4) Image your eyes as the face of a clock. Center your eyes and then look to 9 o'clock for a second or two. Return to the center. Continue doing this to 10 o'clock, etc all the way around the clock. Do this slowly, don't hurt yourself.

5) Without your glasses, hold or view something to read just out of your clear vision zone so that it is blurry and cannot be read. Now try to read it while remaining relaxed. Do not strain. Observe what you can see, tracing the outline of it. Believe it or not the words will become clearer if for nothing more than a second at first.

6) View something in the distance well out of your clear vision zone. Do not strain to see it. Just accept what you see. Trace the outline of it with your eyes. See its shape. Then try to view the details of it. Don't worry if you cannot see every detail, just look at what you can see. Trace the details and pay attention to what you can see, not what you cannot. This is very important to do throughout the day for those of us that sit at a computer most of the time. This should be done every few minutes, atleast every half hour but more often if you can think about it. Just look away from the screen at something across the room, anything to move your eyes from looking up close to looking into the distance.

7) Hold up a finger about 6" from your face. Study it for a few seconds. Then look at something in the distance, atleast 15 ft away, studying it as you would in #6. Then switch back to your finger for a few seconds, then back to the distance object for a few seconds.

8) Palming seems to be suggested in almost every post, book, and source on this subject so it must be important. Do it! Place your palms over your eyes so no light gets in and close your eyes. Do not actually touch your eyes, but let your palms rest on the bone around your eyes. Doing this for 5 to 10 minutes should be good.

9) Close your eyes and stare at a bright light source. A lamp is suggested. I have heard the sun suggested from some, but with UV radition this may not be a good idea, whatever works for you though. Do this for about 5 to 10 minutes.

A big thing seems to be details. Don't just look at something, but see its details. Don't just see a tree, but see the leaves and bark that make up the tree. Don't just see a telephone, but see the buttons and numbers. Look at the shape of letters and words when you are reading. Actually use your eyes if you want them to continue working.

I suggest to everyone nott to just wait to hear from others if they are making progress but do it yourself. It may be great to hear about others success but think how wonderful it will be to see it for yourself. It really is amazing seeing a word that is blurry and unreadable come into focus for a second that first time, and second, and third. Do the exercises listed here by kifyre and myself as well as some energy work and see for yourself what can happen.

Best of Luck to Everyone!

Hi all,
About a year ago I decided "enough!". My vision is terrible and glasses and contacts are a pain.  So I began using Robert's NEW method to heal my vision.
About two months ago I had my eyes checked and for the first time in 45 years my vision has improved! I told the optomitrist what I had been doing, I was so excited,  and proclaimed that I was going to" keep it up".
I downloaded the "free" book too, thanks. And I'll try those exercises too. By the way when I am out of body (except for reading) my vision is perfect, and more. I do have a hard time trying to bring written materal into focus still when out of body, and at times have found myself totally in the "dark" for a while.
Anyway thanks for the above help.
Donna

Here's another technique from Instant Healing by Serge Kahili King, Ph. D.:

When engaged in the act of viewing, place and maintain awareness at the back of your head.

He gives no explanation; here is my analysis:

1. Vision is "passive," we allow ourselves to see. Keeping our focus off whatever we're seeing prevents us from grabbing the object/scene with our eyes and causing more eyestrain.

2. As we know, awareness leads to energy accumulation, enhanced blood flow, and nerve stimulation. Guess what's at the back of the head? The Occipital Cortex, "Primary Visual Center" http://www.uic.edu/com/eye/education/eyefacts/images/OpticNeuritisA.jpg
From other material, I learned that the retina and brain sharpen the image from our eyes approximately 6 times. This is biological image enhancement. In other words, what we see as crisp and clear is actually 6 times fuzzier before our brain gets ahold of it. Most people with visual problems likely are deficient in this area, not just focusing ability. Stress and corrective eyewear cause this processing to work less efficiently. I think that's from "Take Off Your Glasses and See" by Jacob Liberman

Two days ago, after an evening of raising energy, using techniques from instant healing, and praying I woke up with somewhere between 20/60 and 20/100 vision I'd guess. A far cry from my original 20/600, no? (It faded fast to whatever my baseline is now, maybe even lower, but I had it!)

I'm getting discouraged again, but I'm not gonna stop.

All the best,

Mark

In the traditional chinese medicine (acupuncture, chi kung) vision is associated with the liver. At http://www.powerattunements.com/mandalas.html there is a mandala for the liver and they offer an empowerment for the mandala. Maybe that could help, too.

Hi,
I have also been trying to improve my eyesight. I was doing the circular motion all around my eyeballs, nerves, sockets, inside my eyeballs. Later that day, my vision went totally crap. I could see about 10 feet infront of me and behind that was a blur. I had tunnel vision, about 90 degrees, normally about 210 degrees. Past the tunnel vision blind spot, was loads of coloured blurs. Once I had eaten and had a drink, I felt a lot better. It wasnt dehydration as I had had my breakfast. A lot of breakfast.

Cya,
auraseer.

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Working with energy to improve eyesight, one might always consider to also "open the doors (or windows) of perception".

In many instances one may find energetic distortions around the area of the eyes especially which make it difficult to see clearly. It is possible that the muscles referred to which are said to pull the eyeballs out of shape are trying to compensate as they are straining to "see reality" through a haze of energetic shields and blockages.

L.

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Originally posted by Lucius:
Working with energy to improve eyesight, one might always consider to also "open the doors (or windows) of perception".

In many instances one may find energetic distortions around the area of the eyes especially which make it difficult to see clearly. It is possible that the muscles referred to which are said to pull the eyeballs out of shape are trying to compensate as they are straining to "see reality" through a haze of energetic shields and blockages.

L.

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Hi, are you referring to "The Doors of Perception and Heaven and Hell"
by Aldous Huxley? I can't seem to find anything else.

Thanks!

Mark

Very interesting subject.
Has anyone ever added vitamins or minerals to the regime?
It is recommended that you add 70 mg. of zinc per day for your eyes.
Also, Bilberry 1000 mg. should be added, along with the vitamin A, etc.
I have been taking these supplements for a couple of years now, and I feel my vision has improved.  Hardly ever wear my glasses at home anymore, and have to be reminded to wear them when I leave the house.
What a wonderful, free feeling to see something without those darned glasses.

Mary/ dovelady

pray for peace.

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Originally posted by Lucius:
Working with energy to improve eyesight, one might always consider to also "open the doors (or windows) of perception".

In many instances one may find energetic distortions around the area of the eyes especially which make it difficult to see clearly. It is possible that the muscles referred to which are said to pull the eyeballs out of shape are trying to compensate as they are straining to "see reality" through a haze of energetic shields and blockages.

L.

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Hi, are you referring to "The Doors of Perception and Heaven and Hell"
by Aldous Huxley? I can't seem to find anything else.

Thanks!

Mark

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This is the original quote:

If the doors of perception were cleansed, every thing would appear to man as it is, infinite.
–William Blake

Clients in hypnotherapy find occasionally improvements in eyesight when they remember or come to terms with events "they did not want to see".

This makes sense energetically and would also account for the reason for eye muscles to distort the eyeball.

Also, improvement in eyesight can occur spontaneously with energy therapies treatments such as EFT (http://theamt.com) when clients release negative beliefs such as, "Without my glasses, I am blind as a bat."

I do believe (although I cannot prove this) that people can *see* more than they do both in the metaphorical as well as in the literal sense of the word.

L.

As a person who is currently under going regular hypnotherapy I can say I "see" you point well.

There have been a few sessions where we seem to make a lot of progress, after which I have difficulty seeing.  I usually have to sight there for a bit untill things return to "normal".  

However after a recent session, after an extream jump in progress, my eye sight did not return to normal untill the next day.  It was not so much that I could not see or could not see clearly but my enviroment was in a state of constant flux.  I would lets say look at a chair, at first it did not register as being a chair, then my vision would go blurry really fast and clear right back up.  At that point I would realize what I was looking at, but after that it would then again change.  The object would look like it was moving or the area around it moved, or warped.  It was very difficult to try function like that.



David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com
I am he who walks in the light but is masked by the shadows.
David127385.freestoreclub.com

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Originally posted by cainam_nazier:
The object would look like it was moving or the area around it moved, or warped.  It was very difficult to try function like that.

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David,

one the one hand it is perhaps heartening to think that something is working with the hypnotherapy and things are changing, I agree that it is difficult to function when the floor is becoming warped (I have experienced this and it is very disturbing apart from practically difficult to navigate).

Have you discussed this with your hypnotherapist? What is their explanation for this?

L.

Well she attributed the my visual difficulties to how long and how deep she had me under.  This being that I may have been expirencing side effects of what we were working on which was a removal of an energy.  The energy in question is creating memories and reliving some of them.  Some would say this was past life memories but it is not.  They are external.  

The bit we were working on at the time the person was being drugged a lot, and I mean a LOT.  She kind of thinks that the visual problems were because caused by the memory of being drugged.  The memories being so fresh and mentally impacting that the mind was creating the physical side effects of being doped up.

Throwing certain mental switches is one of my long term goals with this but we are currently working on cleaning up the mess in my brain.  

It would be interesting to me if certain things can be accomplished with the aid of meditation and hypnotherapy to get the body more intune with what the concious mind wants.  One being better eye sight.


David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com
I am he who walks in the light but is masked by the shadows.
David127385.freestoreclub.com

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Originally posted by cainam_nazier:

It would be interesting to me if certain things can be accomplished with the aid of meditation and hypnotherapy to get the body more intune with what the concious mind wants.  One being better eye sight.

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Yeah that's the challenge - to get the right forms of communication between physicality, body mind and so forth. Hypnotherapy is ok I guess but I dislike passing over control to the operator to be truthful. I prefer the self help energy therapies because I like to know what's happening - at least for now.

Also, I am quite reluctant to make any great changes to any parts of my systems until I know a bit more about what is connected where. I have this notion that things are the way they are for a reason and find that interesting to attempt to figure out.

L.

I know what you mean about handing over the control part.  But I have found that what they say is true.  That being you can not be forced to do some thing under hypnosis that you would not normally do, or that your core beliefs do not allot for.  Now in extream cases this can be broken but there is a considerable amount of psychotherapy that needs to go with it.  

I have also found that for me that I have such clarity of thought when I am under.  I have full understanding of what is going on and I am totally aware of my enviroment.  We have found this to be kinda odd because me therapist said that every ones she treats tends no to hear anything outside of what she is telling them.  However the last time I was there I heard the guy in the office next door come in, go through his cabinet, and then leave.  My timing was off a little because it seemed like he was there a long time but it was only about 2 mins.


David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com
I am he who walks in the light but is masked by the shadows.
David127385.freestoreclub.com

Kifyre said "When engaged in the act of viewing, place and maintain awareness at the back of your head."

This is also the technique that is used for PhotoReading by Pete Bissonette.  Go to www.photoreading.com for more info.  Photoreading is like speedreading.  You keep your awareness at the back of your head, and gulp in the information.  You digest the info later.

Anyhow, that is a bit off topic.  I just wanted to add that energy movment helped my eyesight.

First of all, my eyesight was never bad, but eventually I needed glasses to use the computer and for reading.

I tried several things:  I used energy movement and awareness on my eyes and head.  I reduced the amount of caffiene and sugar I was consuming.  I reduced my stress and got back into a physical exercise program.  I stopped using my glasses, even though it was uncomfortable.

Now I don't need glasses.  My eyes are still sensitive to bright sunlight, not sure why that is, but my vision problems went away.  I think all of those things helped.  The scientific mind in me would say the energy movement/awareness couldn't have possibly worked, but it helped several other things.

It helped a pinched nerve in my neck, a sprained ankle, shortened colds, warmed my feet when my shoes froze after running through streams in the winter, alleviated back pain, etc...

Even after all of this, I didn't think of using it to fix my chronic shoulder condition until a few days ago.  I dislocated it several times in my stupid teens/early twenties.  When I turned 29, I overused it playing computer games! (duh) and it wouldn't work properly since.  (Great pain, limited motion, the bone in the back sticks out at a funny angle.)  In order to raise my right arm over my head, I would have to grab it with my left hand.  This stayed like this for 2 years.

A couple days ago, I started to do energy awareness on the shoulder, and stretch it, do pushups, etc...  Today, I noticed that I can lift my right arm straight up without help from my left!  (first time in 2 years)  It still doesn't feel 100%, but it is a lot better than it was.

BTW, I tried exercises without the energy movement and awareness actions earlier on, and it had no effect, in fact, it made it worse.

Just a little story about what energy movment/awareness with some exercise and positive thinking can do!

-Turtle

Hey all, seeing this topic pop up again reminded me to update. My eyes are still improving. I'm going to get another objective measurement at the optometrist within two months. My latest acquisition:

www.mindandsight.com

Basically,

1) learning to blink correctly

2) learning how to relax, and maintain it when you're seeing so that you actually see what you're looking at without unconsciously straining or psychologically disengaging. This double wammy allows the eyes to actually heal on their own because you're using them correctly as best you can.

Mark

excellent topic, i too wear glasses and hate them. i have used energy to cure myself of colds, stuffy nose ect, but have never thought of trying to cure my eyesight. guess i just took it for granted that i would always need glasses. thanx for the idea [8D]. i'll be sure to let everyone know if it helps.

-kd

Kampersdream,
How do you use energy to clear blocked nose and cold? It's been a great problem for me especially when in air-con.
Thanks a zillion.

As part of my healing process I have had a complete healing of my eyesight - even my optometrist was surprised!  Actually I have had a healing of all my physical senses - including hearing and voice.

I think all illness is a reflection of what is happening with us as individuals and with society on a spiritual level.  Given that so many people wear eyeglasses there is likely a generally accepted cultural belief that we are holding that is not in harmony with the universe.  Personally I think we need to explore all of our societal beliefs and whether they are in harmony with the universe -- for instance, our concepts of love, freedom, peace, family, life, truth.  Here are some methods that I used that contributed to the healing of my eyesight:

1) Tell God/Universe that you want to "see" all, that you want to "see" clearly, God should not hold anything back, you are willing to challenge any belief no matter hold sacred it has been to you.  (Here is an example of one of my revelations - My mother wasn't a saint, she put a lot of shame on me as most mothers do, our whole system of raising children is one of conditional love not unconditional, much of what we call love is a "need" for another person and does not have much to do with anything that the universe would define as love)

After you ask this question, pay attention to what comes up for healing - relationship with mother, father, kids, spouse.  Where ever emotions of shame, fear, guilt, etc. have been put on us we must allow ourselves to "feel" those emotions in order to release them.

2) Stare at the ceiling - I spent many hours laying on the couch just staring at the ceiling.  I guess it was a type of meditation - this is often when emotional issues would come up for healing.  The first issue you will likely have to deal with is the guilt of "wasting time", "not being productive", being "lazy".  These are all ways we shame people in our society for not conforming to society's belief system.  Over a six month period I probably spent anywhere from 2 to 4 hours a night just laying there staring, resting, meditating, reflecting - whatever - just laying there, just "being"!

3) Stare at the ceiling without blinking - At first I could only keep my eyes open for a few seconds without blinking but then progressed to much longer periods.  Again this is symbolic, but it works.  What are we blinking out?  What do we not want to see?  Let the universe know that you wish to keep your eyes "wide open" and see all - not blink out all the stuff that you don't care to look at.

4) Try to focus on the space in between yourself and the ceiling.  It is surprising how much stuff there is to be seen in what we consider "empty space".  Again this is part of "seeing all" not just the stuff we have been trained to see.  

5) Quit watching tv - well this one is up to you, but I have not watched tv for about two years now and I think this has contributed tremendously to my healing process.  It's not so much that tv is directly bad for your eyes, but every moment we watch it it is telling us - this is how to be, how to act, this is what is important, these are the things you should pay attention to.  It doesn't leave much room for looking inside and challenging society's belief system.  

Hope some of this helps.  Lots of Luv - Linda.

ame- to clear a stuffy nose, when doing regular NEW energy raising i alternate between raising energy to the sub-navel storage center and raising energy to my heart, pausing a moment and moving the energy to the affected part. for example, on the in breadth i will raise the energy to the heart chakra, pause and with the out breath i'll push the energy to the affected area. this has worked well for simple ailments, curing my eyesight will be my first major test. after almost a week i am begging to feel a bit of change. let me know if my little method works for your colds [:)]

-kd

This article describes a series of simple eye exercises that have worked for many people.

I know most people don't like a whole article being stuck in a post, but I wanted it here for future readers in case the original goes offline. Sorry! The original can be found at: http://www.yogajournal.com/health/79_1.cfm

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20/20 Vision Quest
You can improve your eyesight by regularly performing this series of simple exercises.

By Cybèle Tomlinson

When you look at Meir Schneider, founder and director of the Center and School for Self-Healing in San Francisco, his striking eyes are what you see first. The left eye angles slightly inward and is somewhat murky; the right one is focused and alert.

The fact that Schneider is able to see is nothing short of extraordinary: He was born cross-eyed with microopthalmy (a small eyeball), glaucoma (excessive pressure on the eyes), astigmatism (an irregular curve of the cornea), nystagmus (involuntary shifting of the eyes), and cataracts (an opacity of the lens). At the age of 6, after enduring numerous painful and unsuccessful operations, he was pronounced legally blind.

Schneider credits his restored vision to his practice of yoga for the eyes. These techniques are based on the Bates Method of vision improvement, developed around the turn of the century by ophthalmologist William Bates, who believed that eyes which were capable of deteriorating were also capable of improving. Over the course of his controversial career, Bates developed an extensive training program for the eyes. He argued that the eyes must be relaxed in order to see well.

Schneider began the Bates Method at age 17. He practiced relaxing the eyes for up to 13 hours a day. "The results were so dramatic when I began to work on myself," he says. "Seeing light—when it happened—was such a dramatic thing that nothing could stand in my way." At the same time, he also discovered how to relax his body and move more freely. Eventually, Schneider gained enough vision to read, walk, run, and even drive.

Since that time, Schneider, who holds a Ph.D. in healing arts, has made helping others with vision limitations his life's work. He began by concentrating on the eyes and then moved to the whole body, aiding those living with muscular dystrophy, multiple sclerosis, and polio.

The Psychology of Seeing

Schneider's techniques are remarkably simple, but you have to be able to abandon your preconceived notions of what eyesight is and how it works.

Seeing involves not just the eyes but the brain. According to Schneider, "Seeing is largely a function of the mind, and only partly a function of the eyes. There are 80 to 110 million rods and 4 to 5 million cones with which the retina senses light. A billion images are produced in the retina every minute. But the brain can't assimilate all these images: It's selective, and determines how much of a picture you will or won't see. It also determines how clear or how fuzzy your vision will be." For instance, when you're bored, your mind tells your eyes not to look, and after awhile that's what happens: You stop looking.

However, there is a demand to see, and in order to do so, we often squint, strain, and stress the eyes. We further abuse our eyes by reading late into the night, watching television, working long hours on computers, and focusing for too long. "How you use your eyes determines their structure," says Schneider.

Yoga for the Eyes

Schneider begins his own eye program with palming, massage, blinking, and shifting—exercises which should be done in a relaxed, effortless way. If there is tension in the body, then the exercises will only encourage current habits. In all exercises, keep your breathing deep and full.

Palming.

Palming, which was originally invented by Tibetan yogis, is done in darkness with the palms cupping the eyes. Palming soothes the optic nerve, which is often irritated. Sit in a darkened room with your elbows leaning on a table. Relax your back and shoulders, rub your hands together vigorously to warm them, then place your palms over your eyes. Don't press the eye sockets and don't lean on the cheekbones. Visualize total blackness, the most relaxing color for the brain, and breathe deeply. Let the blackness permeate everything: your eyes, your whole body, the room you sit in, the city, the state, the continent, the planet, the stars, the universe.

You may see all kinds of lights, which is an indication of irritation in the optic nerve. In fact, you may not see total darkness until you have completed several palming sessions. Palm for as long as is comfortable.

Massage.

Rub your hands together to warm them and then rub the fingers up the bridge of the nose and across the eyebrows to the temples. Find the grooves in the eyebrows and massage them. Then rub the fingers from the nose to the cheekbones and to the ears. Finally, run your fingers across your forehead. Facial massage helps dissolve tension in the eyes, bringing them to a more relaxed state. Massage of the face, head, and body can facilitate this process.

Blinking.

Often our tendency is to fall into a kind of myopic stare, especially when under stress. This strains the eyes unnecessarily. Blinking helps keep the eyes moist and tension-free, and increases circulation in the eyes. Begin reprogramming yourself by opening and closing the eyes very softly and gently. Then visualize the eyes blinking. Imagine that it's the eyelashes which open and close the eyes. Breathe deeply. Apply this technique whenever you look at something, gazing in a soft way and blinking frequently. If the eyes are behaving in this way, then they can't be tense.

Shifting.

This involves flitting the eyes rapidly from detail to detail and encourages the eyes to engage with the world and pick up on more details. Normal eyes shift naturally, making many micromovements per second.

Shifting works by engaging the macula, the central part of the retina, which is responsible for clear, detailed vision. By moving the eyes frequently, more information comes through this part of the retina, thus providing the eyes with more in-focus visual information.

Practice by moving your eyes from point to point on whatever you're looking at. Forget the name of the thing you're seeing, and look at its individual parts. Never strain or force yourself; always look with "soft" eyes.

According to Schneider, there are many people who have healed their eyes using these exercises. One woman came to him after being blinded in one of her eyes by flying glass. After she did three long palming sessions—each lasting several hours—she could see light and shadow with her blind eye. In her other eye, her vision went from 20/16 to 20/6.

Another dramatic case is that of an elderly pharmacist who was referred to Schneider after surgery for macular degeneration. The surgery left him with damage to his central vision, thus causing him to see images in multiple. These images were fuzzy and had no depth; the pharmacist's vision measured 20/400. After working with Schneider for six months, his vision was 20/25.

Most of us, thinking these eye conditions are inevitable and unchangeable, simply opt for corrective lenses. But there is a danger in taking this route, because glasses encourage the shape of the eye to remain the same. "Yes, you put on glasses and you can see 20/20, but with time you come to depend on them," says Schneider. "People believe that vision can only deteriorate, not improve. But eyes can improve, and they do improve, given the right conditions."

Resources
Self Healing: My Life and Vision, by Meir Schneider (Penguin, 1989).

The Handbook of Self-Healing, by Meir Schneider and Maureen Larkin (Penguin/Arkana, 1994).

Meir Schneider's Miracle Eyesight Method, by Meir Schneider (two audiotapes, Sounds True, 1996).

CybËle Tomlinson is a writer and yoga teacher who lives in Berkeley, California.
Mar/Apr 99

This article can be found online at http://www.yogajournal.com/health/79_1.cfm

Thanks a bunch Kampersdream. I guess I'll have to wait for a while before using your tech as I'm very new to NEW and I'm still trying to loosening up my secondary and not yet to do energy raising which I hope to be able to do soon. I'll let you know about the result.

Also, there are books on seeing auras with exercises intended to workout your eyes. May help.  One thing I think western medicine has done to us is make us reliant on treatment (i.e. glasses/contacts).  Why? You make more money off of a treatment then you do a cure.

I havn't worn my contacts for 2 years and one of my eyes actually improved, why just 1? I don't know.

Hi everyone,

Hypnotist(Certified)

Everyone that gos into hypnosis is always in control of their actions mentally and physically.  The person only takes the suggestions that they want to take and use.

Alot of people still see hypnosis as a scary thing. All hypnosis is self hypnosis, the hypnotist is only a guide.

Most people see hypnosis on tv the movies and on stage and they thing they have the whole picture of what hypnosis is.  What you see on tv movies or stage shows is only 1/16 of what it really is and what it can do by you.

Before one puts it down do some reasearch or take a class.  Its the same with Astral Projection if you never experienced or studied it. It would be scary or its imposible to do.

Sincerely,
Hypotist

Hmm my eyesight was realy poor and i thought i needed better glasses but after doing a few exercises (from the free ebook mentioned earlier ). My sight recovered somewhat . Ive desided that im not gonna use glasses unless i need to see things far away.

Perhaps it realy can work ,time will tell. And ill post if i start seeing even better.

My Lord . I never thought it would work this fast !!!!!
Im halvway trough this bookhttp://i-see.org/perfect_sight/
and only today done any serius testing (lay the glasses on shelf yeasterday).  

My sight have improved atleast a full glass size the last quarter.
I test myself with a printed snellen test on the wall.
Just cant belive it ! sight truly is mostly in the mind.

Ohhh and im pretty furius at being conned into getting glasses , thought my optician may just had the best intencions for me . If i hadnt gotten stronger glasses about 8 months ago , i would be about normal vision with the improvement i just had.

But now i truly belive i can get normal vision without surgery . This is like NEW for the eyes , heck i think its better than new .
It is just as simple and gives better sight!

Anyone else seeing the light(better)?[:D]

Just got an eye check . I had -1.75 diopters in my glasses both sides. Now i got   between -1.75 to -1.50 left. And about -1.25 right ! (thought my last optologist (sorry if misspelled) said i was -2.0 ,so i dont know why i got weaker glasses)

My checkup was hillerius , on the smaller types espessially diamond type(think its the name) my vision was very unstable ,hence it is hard to say accurate. Because when i got glasses i could see with i would see it accuratly for 2-3 sec and then it turned to tiny black spots.(most likely strain from all the diffrent glassess i was tested with  ).

So i was like "yes , no , yes hmm gone again!" Then just recite them from memory=P. Was very dizzy when i was done.

But it shows this thingy works GREAT for me ,i feel confident i will reclaim my eyesight fully . Even if it will take awhile (i havent had such great progress i made the 3 first days ).  
Anyway great results from just 1 week , cant wait to get to the end of the month [8D] .

Hmmm cant belive this Bates guy went in the grave without acknowledgement and even worse hes science isnt made public knowledge.

Well is there any other healing methods for other things besides you eyes? my eyes are perfect, but what else is there and how do you do it?
          --SmileySpirit14

Well, I have always had what is considered "perfect" vision, and many have stated they are "jealous" (aka really happy that what I do works for me). I have always been interested in another aspect of vision though.

I've always wondered if we could focus enough to magnify a given scene, sort of like that old show The Sentinel. Logic tells me I can, but when I practice it, those far off objects I try to see still remain what I call "blurry tiny". Is there also a way to train your peripheral vision to be not blurry?

Well, additionally my mother bought a speed reading course, her second (first one was too complicated imo), and she says it talks and trains your eyes to "magnify". I'll research this more when I go home again in April.

Any news of Jon88 ?

I hate glasses and contact lenses (I'm fairly near-sighted), so here's what I'm doing:

1. I have created and will maintain constructs or "shields" around my eyes programmed to alter the shape of my eyeballs and lenses.

2. When I have free time I do two step energy raising. Inhaling and raising energy into my heart chakra, and then exhaling and channeling this energy into my eyes with the intent of healing.

3. Praying for perfect vision.

4. Using the the wrapping technique on my eyeballs.

5. And, of course, wearing glasses and contacts as little as possible. (Rather difficult when I'm in class or at the computer, but I'm doing my best. )

I'll certainly post if I notice any subjective improvement, and of course if my prescription changes, as diagnosed by my optometrist.

Anyone have comments, suggestions, stories, or ideas?

Mark

Any news?