I came across several raw vegan websites and was intrigued by their health benefits claims. All food is a form of energy, and therefore one should get the food with the highest energy level into one's system, especially when facing health challenges.
You can download a free raw vegan recipe eBook here:
http://ebooks.raw-pleasure.com.au
The site below has many interviews concerning raw vegan diet.
I especially recommend Victoria Boutenko (Episode 20) about her research into the benefits of green smoothies:
http://www.rawveganradio.podomatic.com
Victoria has cured her son's diabetes, her daughter's asthma and a number of ailments she and her husband had with raw vegan food.
Victoria's website: http://www.rawfamily.com
Another site of interest: http://www.TheGardenDiet.com
"The wise man should consider that health is the greatest of human blessings. Let food be your medicine."
- Hippocrates
"Think of the fierce energy concentrated in an acorn! You bury it in the ground, and it explodes into a giant oak! Bury a sheep, and nothing happens but decay! "
- George Bernard Shaw
There is a living power in the raw food that the cooked food no longer has. If you make a Kirlian photo of a food item, the raw food still has energy field - "aura" about it, though this energy is not as strong as at the time of harvesting it. However, this energy field is totally absent in the cooked food.
Hippocraters Health Institute in Florida http://www.hippocratesinst.org had a lot of success treating people with serious illnesses (including cancer) with raw food.
I once asked Brian Clement, the director of the Institute, about people with blood type O who are supposed to be animal-protein eaters. He told me that he himself was of the blood group O and could testify about misconception regarding this issue. He has been a raw vegan for a couple of decades, is very healthy, feels great, and has beautiful strong muscles.
For those concerned about not getting enough protein on raw food, I suggest contacting people at the Hippocrates Health Institute to check on this issue. They had thousands of people coming through their institution with all sorts of ailments and all the blood types. They have medical stuff at the premises and are highly qualified to answer any questions.
You can find a lot of information about raw vegan food and its healing power in Our Ultimate Reality Forum. There are several discussion threads devoted to it the Abundance and Health Section of the forum. They are:
Raw Vegan? Why?
Raw Vegan Lifestyle
Raw Food Preparation Videos
Healing Power of Food
Raw Vegan Recipes
You can reach the forum by going to
http://www.ourultimatereality.com/
or directly to
http://www.ourultimatereality.com/forums/index.php
Quote from: melody on November 13, 2006, 10:16:28
Victoria has cured her son's diabetes, her daughter's asthma and a number of ailments she and her husband had with raw vegan food.
Victoria's website: http://www.rawfamily.com
Another site of interest: http://www.TheGardenDiet.com
It does not cure diabetes. It only
nearly eliminates the need for insulin, because fruit and vegetables are limited in carbohydrate content...all human beings need both insulin and carbohydrates in order to live. Her son is still a diabetic if he is type 1. And I can guarantee you he still takes insulin if that is the case. I am a type 1 diabetic, with informal training as an educator. There is no cure at this moment except for islet cell transplantation into the pancreas and the obligatory immuno-suppressants that follow...and even then, you still end up needing insulin again...
If he was a type 2 it is possible it cured him. But if he was a type 1 (which is vastly more common in children) he is
not cured. It should be specified by you before posting this which type of diabetes he has/had. Because otherwise this information is a danger to those with type 1 diabetes without the proper education (a common issue even within North America). Specification of diabetes type is imperative when presenting the general public with any health information regarding its treatment.
The biology and metabolism of a type 1 (or juvenile) diabetic reacts a bit differently than a normal person when deprived of insulin and carbohydrates. The complication known as Diabetic Ketoacidosis (not to be confused with Ketosis) is a life threatening disorder and results when the body lacks insulin to metabolize carbohydrates with.
So Victoria's son is either type 2, or type 1 and still taking some insulin...or he is dead or dying right now.
I don't mean to come off like I am attacking you, Melody, you haven't done anything wrong. You have simply been deceived. This is just the truth, and I want everyone to know it...whether they're diabetic or not, considering a raw vegan diet or not...
Another thing that could have happened is that he was misdiagnosed diabetic and that is why they are not having issues.
Either way, I don't see this son in the picture...
***Scratch that I found a picture of him...And a quote...
"I know that the active lifestyle that I live today would not have been possible to live had I had diabetes."
...Again, misleading, absolute BS. After reading their website, it's easy to see they really are just trying to make money. They want to convince people they cannot live normally with diabetes...just to sell their book. Sad. You can do just about anything if you have diabetes.
-Gary Hall Jr: US olympic gold medalist in swimming (who I have met, he does not seem inactive to me!)
-Scott Coleman: Swimmer - first man with diabetes to swim the English Channel, (August 17th 1996)
-Kris Freeman: Olympic and National Champion Cross-Country Skier (heard him speak at a diabetes conference, he said he wondered if his diabetes actually gave him an edge on others...)
-Jonathan Hayes: NFL - Pittsburgh Steelers, Kansas City Chiefs
-Chris Jarvis - World Champion Canadian Rower
Zippora Karz: Prima Ballerina (met her too) of the New York City Ballet
-Sir Steven Redgrave: Rower and winner of five consecutive Olympic gold medals
Ty Cobb: MLB: Detroit Tigers
-Ron Santo: MLB - Chicago Cubs legend
-James "Buster" Douglas: Heavy Weight Boxer
-Chris Dudley: NBA - New York Knicks center
I read somewhere the results of an experiment conducted where they put people with diabetes (type II im assuming) on a vegan diet and something like 90% of them no longer had to inject insulin after about 30 days on the diet. Dont qoute me on any of that but thats what i read.
Hello Mez and Astir,
Here is a video that shows how diabetes could be reversed in 30 days on raw vegan food. (Mind you this reversal would be sustainable only if one continued on the raw vegan diet).
It is intresting to note that some people are self destructive and prefer to go on with their bad habits of drinking, smoking and eating SAD (Standard American Diet), rather than giving themselves a chance to cure themselves. For many people SAD food is too addictive to try a different way of eating, even when their health depends on it.
Reversing Diabetes Naturally
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1407054601065907544
Astir, just keep in mind that big pharmaceutical companies would loose money if people were healing themselves with raw foods. They also pay money for the majority of the research that is done, I frankly, I do not much trust claims made by articles.
This is also why the big industry is intend on pasterising or irradiating everything. You can no longer get raw almonds, for instance. They still label them as raw, but they have been pasteurized, and therefore are no longer raw.
Quote from: Mez on September 24, 2007, 02:40:48
I read somewhere the results of an experiment conducted where they put people with diabetes (type II im assuming) on a vegan diet and something like 90% of them no longer had to inject insulin after about 30 days on the diet. Dont qoute me on any of that but thats what i read.
Mez, Melody,
Most type 2's don't inject insulin. Only a small percent do. Less than 25% of them eventually actually need it, but for the most part their issue is not a lack of insulin, it is a lack of sensitivity to insulin (insulin resistance). Anyway, most are on pills to treat their condition, and very low carb diets can reverse their disease if they are 100% dedicated. Type 2 is almost exclusively treated with pills and diet alone. While type 1's use insulin exclusively and have more freedom when eating.
But for a type 1 diabetic (what this Sergei kid is/was) the condition cannot be reversed...period. Because what happens to a type 1 is absolute destruction of the islet cells until the pancreas no longer produces insulin...a hormone that no one can live without. The destruction is caused by the immune system basically going haywire and attacking the bodies own cells. So fundamentally, type 1 and type 2 are two different diseases and there needs to be constant differentiation between the two.
You cannot "bounce back" from type 1. Once diagnosed, you've got it for life. It is not curable, only treatable. Sometimes that escapes people. Because type 1 is nowhere near as severe as something like cancer...but as for which is more curable, cancer wins in a landslide. As of right now there is no cure that the general diabetic public has access to. I'm sure there are cures they are working on, but getting funding
and approval for clinical trials on human beings is near impossible.
So anyway, the types, they only share the same name.
My pancreas is dead, Melody. It just takes up space in my abdomen. It lives here, but it refuses to pay it's portion of the rent :-P
I did not get diabetes because of poor dietary decisions. I have it because my chromosomes...(something immutable) predisposed me to have my immune system destroy my pancreas. NO DIET can fix that. Only insulin can fix it. And insulin is not a drug although a drug company manufactures it. It is a necessary hormone. Basically all type 1's are on hormone therapy and do need to be...insulin is irreplaceable and totally impossible to live without. It is also an inelastic demand and you better believe pharmaceuticals take advantage of us to the fullest. :-( Still, the disease itself is what needs focus, there is no choice on the matter. I cannot boycott Eli Lilly because they're evil, it would be insane and asinine of me. I know better. I know best. I take insulin or I die, quite painfully. And it is that simple. As simple as survival...the fact that these corporate beasts are money hungry and disgusting is actually beside the point when you need something in order to live.
Before there was insulin they used to treat diabetics with all kinds of diets back in the early 1900's. No diet enabled any diabetic to live longer than 3 years. They went into a coma and they died. Which is what would happen to a type 1 diabetic
nowdays if they didn't or couldn't take their insulin.
Type 1 diabetes without insulin has a higher mortality rate than the worst types of cancer. It is 100% fatal. Basically you starve first, and then you go into Ketoacidosis, then you go into a coma, and if you're not in a hospital within the next 24-48 hours...you die.
If you want to learn more about why we need insulin, there is this great book called,
The Discovery Of Insulin. It covers everything I am trying to explain here. I can't argue points on behalf of the other diseases a raw vegan diet may improve...but I can assure you that a raw vegan diet would not cure a type 1 diabetic. Otherwise all my friends would have tried it and been cured. That website is deceiving to the point that it is actually malicious.
And you don't have to trust pharmaceuticals...I know I don't. I'm not saying you should.
But trust me...type 1 diabetes doesn't go away. Autoimmunity does not go away. I'm in this for life. I don't want to be and I wouldn't if I would have found a way by now...But DNA, unfortunately, is immutable and at this point in time medical science lacks a genetic makeover that would fix it. I am somehow supposed to be this way. But instead of seeking endlessly a way out...I'm beginning to understand and accept instead. It isn't at all like being defeated. This is the kind of thing that gets you off your butt and inspires you to do something to help others. It doesn't hold me back. Otherwise I'd have taken a sick day, I'd have moped in bed at times. But I don't do that...ever. At the same time if I read about something that purports to cure me, I'm going to do my own extensive research to find out whether or not it is so. And it's actually upsetting, that these things are never as good as they sound. EVER. :-P And sometimes, it is pure lies, flat out. Remoresless money making schemes,
just like a bloody pharmaceutical company...
Actually, I don't trust anything with a $...no one should. And I see dollar signs on their website...
thanks for that post it was awesome. I'd love to read that book! my gf has an auto-immune disease (coeliac) and yeah the only way to treat it is with a permenant gluten free diet. I learnt a few good things from your post and you're definately right not to trust pharmacueticals!!! Anything money making is approached with caution... I dont ever trust corporations. EVER.
So you're saying that type 1 diabetes on a raw vegan diet taking no insulin WILL die in or around a 3 year period? geez! I'll have to look into that myself. Im guessing theres never been any study of diabetics on vegan diets over a prolonged period of time IE 3 years? There really needs to be one i think although from what you said im guessing that they'll use up all their reserves of insulin (if thats how it works) and then they'll go into a coma and die anyways.
your thoughts?
Hello Astir and Mez,
Dr. Gabriel Cousens, M.D. is a very respected man in the holistic healing movement. He was in charge of the project shown in the video above. There were other medical practitioners beside him who also participated. So the project was well documented with medical data. That video is only a short clip from a much longer video that will be available in the future on this site (ht film is in post-production right now).
http://www.treeoflife.nu/diabetes.html
Here is a quote from the above page regarding the type-1 diabetes participants in the video, "The type-I diabetic went from an insulin intake of 70 units to 5 units. The other type 1 diabetic remains completely healed of diabetes ."
I don't know their selection criteria for the diabetic participants were, but the longer video, when available, might discuss this.
The Boutenko family is also well respected. It is possible that in the Sergey's case a misdiagnosis was made and he had type-2 diabetes, but the doctors were pretty sure it was type-1. Sergey's grandmother, Victoria's mother, also had diabetes, so there might be a genetic connection.
Sergey never took insulin. As soon as he was diagnosed, Victoria panicked and started to search for solutions. She knew that the injections with synthetic insulin would only lead to further deterioration inside the body. So Sergey's pancreas, I presume, did not yet shut off completely, and could be therefore regenerated when given a chance.
The diet experiments previously done regarding diabetes – they used cooked food including fish and lean meat. Cooked foods no longer posses any healing properties. When you cook food, and especially when you combine different ingredients, you create very complex and unnatural molecules that the body is at odds how to process. And it cannot deal at all with many such complex inorganic molecules. Also, if such molecules get into the blood stream, they create problems inside the body. They are mostly stored some place and are responsible – along with various chemicals we digest – for the toxic condition inside the body.
Basically, especially with age, we deplete the reservoir of enzymes that can be used in the digestion process, and this increases the risk of not being able to properly digest the complex inorganic (cooked) molecules that enter into our body as cooked food.
I don't question doctor's claim that diabetes 1 is an autoimmune disease. But autoimmune against what? What is the immune system fighting inside one's body - pollutants and undigested inorganic mater, the food particles that enter our system and the body is not able to get rid of them? I am sure that doctors have some smart answer to this, but it was shown time and again in the past that they were mistaken with their smart answers.
The fact that there is such rapid increase in diabetes seems to pint that the unnatural food people consume along with air and water pollution might play some role.
Raw vegan food possesses not only the primal, simple, natural, organic molecules, but also natural enzymes that help with digestion. Therefore no food debris enters through the guts into the blood stream Those enzymes also act inside the tissues, dislodging the debris, dissolving them, and eliminating them out of the body. The living food still possess the energy charge – the aura that all living matter has, and consuming this vital energy is very beneficial for the body and for healing.
Sprouts of various sort have especially a very high amount of organic (non – cooked minerals and vitamins, as well as the solar energy it uses for its growth.
Mez, I strongly believe that your girlfriend can greatly benefit from an all raw vegan diet. Especially when there are problems in the guts, a lot of undigested, complex, inorganic molecules get into the blood stream and mess up with one's body.
Astir, there is no harm in trying something for your health, even if you discover later that it did not help as much as you hoped for. If I were you, I would definitely give raw food a try, if not for a complete cure, at least for general well being.
Here is a short film which shows the macro elements of the cells within the body and stresses how important it is to keep the tissues clean from debris of any sort. Those cells need space to unfold their life processes.
A shorter artistic version
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CVUnzk40npw
A full scientific lecture
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jjexZ88wIno&mode=related&search=
P.S. The genetic predisposition of type-1 diabetes might be simply the genetic predisposition not to be able to cope effectively with cooked complex molecules. It might be a similar type of genetic predisposition as for those who are lactose intolerant.
Quote from: melody on September 25, 2007, 14:54:06
Sergey never took insulin. As soon as he was diagnosed, Victoria panicked and started to search for solutions. She knew that the injections with synthetic insulin would only lead to further deterioration inside the body. So Sergey's pancreas, I presume, did not yet shut off completely, and could be therefore regenerated when given a chance.
Distinct possibility. If we look at the autoimmune disease coeliac we see that when a gluten free diet is followed the stomach regenerates whatever damage was done to it by the autoimmune in a period of 6 months - 2 years. So it seems to me a possibility that if raw vegan food does not contain the autoimmune trigger for diabetes (or at least a lot less of it) and the pancreas is still functional to a degree that the body will be able to repair it.
Quote from: melody on September 25, 2007, 14:54:06
The diet experiments previously done regarding diabetes – they used cooked food including fish and lean meat. Cooked foods no longer posses any healing properties. When you cook food, and especially when you combine different ingredients, you create very complex and unnatural molecules that the body is at odds how to process. And it cannot deal at all with many such complex inorganic molecules. Also, if such molecules get into the blood stream, they create problems inside the body. They are mostly stored some place and are responsible – along with various chemicals we digest – for the toxic condition inside the body.
Agreed. I'd like to add that while controversial, "the china study" points to all animal based proteins actually being detrimental to our health. 27 years worth of research speaks to me (in conjunction with other studies with a strong positive correlation). So if we take into account the cooking of the food producing complex inorganic molecules our body isnt equipped to deal with and aninal based proteins our body isnt fully equipped to deal with this has a big impact on whats going on in the body... if these cooked foods are triggering the autoimmune then the previous diet experiments results ARE NOT representative OR any in way an indication of the results a RAW Vegan diet may produce.
Considering the trigger for the autoimmune is not known its important to take the above into consideration.
Quote from: melody on September 25, 2007, 14:54:06
Pathogenesis: Diabetes mellitus type 1 is an autoimmune disease. The autoimmune process begins many years before clinical detection and presentation. It is directly against beta cell of the islets of Langerhans. The destruction must be very heavy, more then 90 percent of beta cells must be destroyed for clinical symptoms to develop. The speed of the beta cell destruction is variable. What is a trigger for autoimmune destruction is not known. Some authors have speculated about several viruses and other environmental factors in genetically susceptible individuals. The following evidence exists that diabetes type 1 is an autoimmune disease:
It says the autoimmune trigger for diabetes currently isnt known... So there is a GOOD chance that whatever the trigger is resides in cooked for OR the cooking OF the food. The fact that a raw vegan diet does have POSTIVE effects on diabetics is at least an indication in the direction of the autoimmune trigger being somewhere in cooked food. Theres a big difference between raw vegan food and the Standard American Diet.
Quote from: melody on September 25, 2007, 14:54:06
Mez, I strongly believe that your girlfriend can greatly benefit from an all raw vegan diet. Especially when there are problems in the guts, a lot of undigested, complex, inorganic molecules get into the blood stream and mess up with one's body.
I beleive EVERYONE would benefit from a raw vegan diet!
In Coeliac the autoimmune trigger is the protein gluten the only way to treat it is a gluten free diet. Gluten is present in wheat, rye and barley (plus malt/malt extract, yeast) so if ANY thing containing any of these is ingested the autoimmune is triggered and the body produces its own antibodies to attack its own cells. My Gf suffers agonising stomach pains when she ingests any gluten. Its painful to even watch. I dont think anything will "cure" the autoimmunity although i'd love to see myself proved wrong and believe that somehow, someway it is possible. We just havent found how yet.
Okay. Don't believe me, but I've had diabetes for 5 years. You should trust in my knowledge because I am a qualified authority in that I come from experience.
I'd bet anyone a million dollars a raw vegan diet would not cure type 1 diabetes for anyone, that's how confident I am this is all a ruse to sell books and make money. Oh and by the way if they still need to take insulin of course they are NOT cured! :-P That's just my thoughts on the matter. I am a diabetic, and from personal experience, taking little or no insulin no matter what you are eating...is an incredibly dangerous and bad idea.
And there is no way to reverse autoimmunity. Anyone, even with an MD, doesn't know what they are talking about if they claim absolutely there is. A brilliant doctor will claim uncertainty...a foolish one will just make claims. A brilliant doctor knows better than that.
PS
Mez,
I also have Celiac Disease. It is the most painful thing I've ever felt in my life (if I accidentally eat gluten). I'd say it's just as bad as diabetes, if not worse during episodes following accidental ingestion. :-(
Hello Astrid,
I almost sense an attachment you have to your conditions... Or am I mistaken?
There is such certainty in an impossibility to heal yourself that it is too constricting... How about all those miraculous cures that doctors cannot explain? (And I would not call Dr. Cousens undertaking miraculous.)
Basically, a person is what he believes he is. It might be a bit more liberating not to be as certain about one's medical condition...
You sense nothing. Your sense of my attachment is an automatic response to your lack of understanding.
I am free, but I just have to correct you...so that someone doesn't come in here and get hurt or very sick by trying this. You do not understand...someone who believes there is a miracle like this around the corner for every person is divorced from reality.
It only takes 10 seconds to take your insulin...it isn't an ordeal. Believe me, I poke my butt a few times a day. It's not a big deal. Easier than remembering to take your vitamins. Synthetic insulin works as it should and it is only harmful when someone does not know how to properly use it. And to take it if they do not naturally produce it any longer.
Synthetic insulin does not deteriorate the body. :lol: That is so ridiculous. :lol:
The lack of insulin...will, however, deteriorate the body because it is a necessary hormone needed to metabolize all food, raw or cooked...I'm telling you...Within 8 months 95% of Type 1 Diabetics make absolutely no insulin. The immune system destroys the cells in the pancreas that create it and continues to destroy them until they are gone. This is because they are not differentiated (by the T cells) from foreign cells. And they do not grow back. There is no insulin in the body that could even be used to metabolize raw foods.
What would happen (to a type 1 diabetic on a raw food diet in conjunction with taking absolutely no insulin) is the blood sugar would elevate over time...exponentially. Then the type 1 would -- because type 1's are very prone to it -- suffer from Diabetic Ketoacidosis. Which DOES deteriorate the body. Both muscle and fat begin to waste. They call it "decay" when this happens to a diabetic. It can reach a dangerous point in just a day. It can come out of nowhere and worsen rapidly. If untreated (e.g., no insulin or IV fluids are administered) the condition is fatal. It would happen to any true type 1 diabetic who stopped taking insulin no matter how nutritious their diet was. There is no food that can be metabolized without insulin.
The decision Sergei's mother made for him was completely unfounded and abusive. She lacked education. And nowdays, her son would have been taken away from her if social services knew she would deny him insulin therapy. Flat out, this young man and the "diabetics" in these "studies" never were diabetic or they would be dead. It's all a work of fiction. If I ever spoke to a mother making this kind of decision for her diabetic child I would call social services immediately.
I'm just glad my common sense isn't compromised by a bunch of greedy frauds selling fairy tales...but for some it might be. No one who is, likes being diabetic...but they have to take their insulin to live, or else.
Really, you must read The Discovery Of Insulin. Check the local library. A semi-large library will carry it.
Quote from: Mez on September 25, 2007, 19:07:33
So it seems to me a possibility that if raw vegan food does not contain the autoimmune trigger for diabetes (or at least a lot less of it) and the pancreas is still functional to a degree that the body will be able to repair it.
No...I wish. The body cannot replace or repair islet cells without stem cell therapy. A strange thing was discovered last year or the year before...and that was that while most organs in the body have stem cells within them to regenerate damaged cells, the pancreas does not. Which is why it does not repair itself. But also, the perpetual barrage of fighter T cells damages them even if they are transplanted back into the pancreas...The former islet cells, if reintroduced, will still be persecuted by the immune system, which is a very complex thing. They do not ever "grow" back.
Nobody knows why people become autoimmune. But there are 100 theories out there. One is that while gestating, a mother may transfer cells to the baby which disorient the child's immune system.
Another is that there is a viral infection which mimics the structure of cells in the body, causing the immune system to attack both the virus and host...(I accept this one as most believable).
Some suggest children are over-immunized and that this warps the immune system into becoming autoimmune.
It is not something in food. Because people have been getting type 1 since ancient times. There are records that describe type 1 to a T. Most people then had very dissimilar diets compared with what is normal now. So food is out. Poor diet is absolutely never the cause of type 1 diabetes. It isn't even an accepted theory in the medical community. I can promise you that.
.....When I was first diagnosed actually, my Endocrinologist told me how heart broken a family was when their 11 year old boy (who had always
been on a
raw vegan diet, vegetables that they even grew themselves) was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. They even waited a bit too long. They waited until he went into Ketoacidosis, because they just couldn't come to terms with the fact that something
went wrong. But they finally got a grip and took him in to the hospital where he was treated for Ketoacidosis.
I should have mentioned
that story before I began writing a novel in this thread. :-P
Oh and...
I'm not saying the diet isn't healthy.
I'm just saying it is not a cure for type 1 diabetes.
And I must tell you as I age, I experience even more joy. More than most people. It's a joy that is uncompromised by disease. That is something to strive and hope for. Happiness is the universal solution. You might call me divorced from reality too :wink: just in my own way.
hello melody and astir.
melody the notion that astir is ATTATCHED to having diabetes is just silly!!! Im sure anyone would love nothing more than to find a permanent cure but it seems that these "miracle" cures are very misleading. Although there are instances in which some patients of disease do experience "miracle" cures... Personally I dont subsribe to the notion that they are miracles... the patient merely did something different and got a different result. I myself am very interested in health and disease and ALL the ways disease can be treated. Astir your experience brings you first hand knowledge (the best kind) and like I said I would love to read that book on insulin. The information about the pancreas containing no stem cells is new to me, thank you for that and yes it does make it impossible then for the pancreas to regenerate sadly. Im currently researching into certain autoimmune diseases as I find them extremely interesting, lately they've just come right into my life which means one thing... STUDY THEM! The story of the young boy developing type 1 diabetes whilst being raw vegan his whole life is interesting... I dont think we can conclude indefinately that the autoimmune trigger is or isnt in the food (any kind)... Whats interesting to note is that "The type-I diabetic went from an insulin intake of 70 units to 5 units. The other type 1 diabetic remains completely healed of diabetes ." forget the second half of that qoute because i dont quite believe it... but the first part from 70 units to 5? what is going on in the body to make that kind of change? (if thats even true but lets suppose it is for arguments sake)
"According to the research of the New York Times, there are 21 million diabetics and 20 million pre-diabetics in America, the same in Europe, and more in India and China. At the current trend, 1 in 3 children born after 2000 will have diabetes, but it was under 1 in 100 at the turn of the century. Yet still many say life-long medication is required, and diabetes is "incurable" by nutrition."
Its become blindly obvious to me that more and more people are being diagnosed with diabetes and younger kids are being diagnosed with type II diabetes which is generally an adult disease. Look at the numbers 1 in 100 at the turn of last century and 1 in 3 after 2000. If you do the same things you've always done you get the same results you've always got so the numbers indicate to us something has definately changed (for the worst) but the question is what? The answer is simple... Our Diets. Diets 100 years ago would have been much different now im not a food expert so i dont know all the details but i know one thing for sure and that is there is so much JUNK FOOD and poor dietry choices these days and they are most likely the underlying cause for such a huge jump in the number of diabetics. I also theorize that if the disease is hereditary its possible it has been bred into more and more people but i doubt this HIGHLY!!! In terms of the diet argument in relation to the vegan kid who was diagnosed with type I, we know its heridatary so its likely the kid had a genetic pre-disposition... im not saying its the only case (cos it wouldnt be of course) in terms of diet in relation to the SAD (standard american diet) the percentage increase of diabetics is PHENOMENAL and of absolutely EPIDEMIC proportions. Those numbers speak to me. They jump right off the page and say "something changed dramatically here and its nothing but bad news"... which leads me to thinking... If say 1 in 3 people (born from 2000 onwards) where are we gonna be in 2100? Will everyone on the planet have diabetes? The numbers suggest we are heading in that direction... just imagine if the entire human race was dependant on pharmacuetical companies. People could be controlled so easily because if they stepped out of line their insulin supply cut and they would die. Now i know thats an extreme situation and im just speculating here but dont you think thats where we are heading? Whilst there is no scientifically recognised permanent cure the numbers alone speak to me... diet is a major contributing factor to diabetes. Astir thank you for all the information you've shared with us its been a big help to me and I agree with you those websites claiming to cure diabetes completely with a raw vegan diet DO border on malicious... however I dont beleive their INTENT is malicious, i believe they have good intentions and maybe what they are doing is working somehow in some way on some people (but not all im gathering). Im going to look further into their claims.
Astir you mention you too are coeliac... have you done much research into coeliac? I was doing some today and I found the history of the disease very interesting particularly its turning point in the 1950's... I have not a clue why ONE tiny study of 10 children changed the face of coeliac the way it did when there was so much support and evidence for its previous "cure". The previous cure was more than just a gluten-free diet it was a diet which restricted the intake of particular carbohydrates, it was said that if a patient followed this diet strictly for 12 months they would be CURED of their coeliac. Now im not one to say "thats BS" but i do certainly find it a very interesting read and it seems like its a viable cure although it leaves me asking... do they mean that following that diet for 12 months (having no autoimmune reactions) will stop any further autoimmune reactions for good? I have heard thats possible although not any use to diabetics really but certainly coeliac sufferers.
here is the link:
http://www.scdiet.org/7archives/scdceli1.html
Quote from: Astir on September 25, 2007, 22:51:11
You should trust in my knowledge because I am a qualified authority in that I come from experience.
Hello Astir,
You might be an authority on the medical interpretation of diabetes, but you have never tried raw vegan diet, so you could not be an authority on that.
Just consider this... Man belongs to the animal kingdom. No other animal than man eats cooked food. Eating cooked food is a relatively new development in the evolution of a humankind. Their metabolic system is not made to digest it, and it had never properly adjusted to doing so.
You are putting a lot of energy and into defending your point of view, and that, in my oppinion, is a certain attachment. Especially in view that people who visit this forum are intelligent human beings and can think for themselves. There is no need to be "saving" them from anything.
No raw food healer would ever advocate to go off insulin without medical supervision. They would stress that it should be only done gradually and when warranted by a blood test. This is how Dr. Cousens' study was conducted. Only when medical testing indicated that the insulin was not needed in as big quantity as before was it lowered. Any other raw foodist would tell you the same thing. Its is pretty clear from the video that testing is needed all the time. So this was a very controlled and responsible way of doing the procedure.
At no time did this raw food discussion claimed "go off insulin, you don't need it", but it seems it is exactly that what you are fighting against.
Simply stated, if anyone would want to try raw food - do it for some time then go and test your blood levels. If high dosages of insulin or whatever other medication you are taking are no longer needed, the doctor would tell you so. This is a very responsible approach, and quite obvious to intelligent people who read this thread.
Consider some natural disaster situation, when a person no longer has access to synthetic insulin or other mediaction... And who knows what might be happening in the future the way mankind is going... It would indeed be quite better to try and see if one can get rid of any such dependencies. And a free choice of doing so should never be discouraged. Never underestimate a man's ability to heal himself! It was demonstrated time and again that this is possible, regardless what medical books claim.
I would like to end on this note - repeating it again -
No other animal but man eats cooked food.
Quote from: Mez on September 26, 2007, 06:11:30
melody the notion that astir is ATTATCHED to having diabetes is just silly!!!
Hello Mez,
Any psychology book would tell that a person internalizes his problems. This is why people go from one bad marrage to the next. They become attached to such a state as a "bad marriage", regardless of what they would claim otherwise.
Man has a tremendous ability to heal and regenerate his body when given optimal conditions for it and a positive healing attitude and healing spiritual practices. Adrian's book Our Ultimate Reality shows how to train one's psyche towards mental wholeness and healing.
Quote from: melody on September 26, 2007, 08:30:18
What about the 11 year old boy who ate a raw vegan diet of hydroponically grown vegetables and still became diabetic??? I'd like your thoughts on that.
But the texts you quoted did use the word, "cure" and no diabetic would consider a raw vegan diet a cure if they still took insulin. And they would have to.
You seem to see two things wrong with me, one, that I am diabetic, and two, I am content with facing it.
tell me melody if a persons pancreas is dead, it has no stem cells to regenerate and its the only way the body can naturally make insulin how is a raw vegan diet going to make them produce insulin?
I do believe in certain miracles.
But frankly, this is how it is.
If you are missing a leg...
It is never growing back. Unfortunately it is the same with those darn islet cells...only worse, because not only will they not grow back on their own...if you ever did get them back (through transplant), your immune system kills them again anyway.
The immune system actually sort of stores information like a hardrive. It stores misinformation too. Which is why autoimmunity is not curable much less well understood at this point in time. It's a case someone will crack eventually, but reasons why will not be simple, and the solution won't be either...I have this funny feeling :-P
The key is not to just regrow islet cells and just temporarily cure diabetes, but to FIRST cure the immune system. Someone needs to find a way to reintroduce the islet cells to the immune system as native, and keep it that way. That would be the only way to reverse it. The source of the problem IS the immune system.
The mind controls the body, somewhere there must be a short circuit in the brain telling the brain to attack its own cells its that simple. Unfortanately the complex thing is finding out how to change that.
Quote from: Astir on September 26, 2007, 20:36:55
I'm just telling you not everyone needs to search so hard for happiness, not everyone needs to escape their problems. This is me facing it, which builds a whole lot more character than running away.
We just see things differently. Our focus is different. I see there is nothing wrong with me. You seem to see two things wrong with me, one, that I am diabetic, and two, I am content with facing it.
But realistically, that is healthy.
Hi Astir
Your words have been refreshing and helpful to me - thanks for saying them! I feel a whole lot better already!
Sarah
Quote from: Mez
tell me melody if a persons pancreas is dead, it has no stem cells to regenerate and its the only way the body can naturally make insulin how is a raw vegan diet going to make them produce insulin?
Hello Mez,
We consist of many energy levels of existence. At some of those levels, the matrix of your body is still in a perfect shape, although the physical body, and even the etheric one, got distorted. This is why miracles happen sometimes, when that matrix that is perfection of your being asserts itself and regenerates your organs and your body which is nothing more than energy as well. But since we have a free will of believing and being what we choose, and since we have a highly conditioned mind of how we perceive reality, this higher body of our perfection does not assert itself against our believes and against the physical reality we assume for our body, and this also applies to the food we eat.
Dead food cannot make us more alive. Only living food can supply us with more living energy.
Quote from: Astir
What about the 11 year old boy who ate a raw vegan diet of hydroponically grown vegetables and still became diabetic??? I'd like your thoughts on that.
But the texts you quoted did use the word, "cure" and no diabetic would consider a raw vegan diet a cure if they still took insulin. And they would have to.
You seem to see two things wrong with me, one, that I am diabetic, and two, I am content with facing it.
Hello Astir,
Hydrophonic method of growing food is not a natural method. The raw vegan food has to come from earth. Water does not contain all the complex nutrients that soil does, and whatever nutrients they add to water during hydroponic process are not sufficient. Besides, they are all inorganic chemicals. I am not surprised that hydroponically produced food would make somebody sick.
I believe they used the word cure in the text referring to diabetes type-2. They did say that diabetes type-1 was ameliorated. Which in itself is a great achievement and quite praiseworthy, in my opinion. It is great that they are capable of greatly ameliorating an "incurable desease"!Would not everybody like to ameliorate their medical conditions?
You are quite mistaken. I do not consider there is anything wrong with you. I respect your free choice of your opinions and of your believes. The only thing I was stressing is that other people can make their own judgment regarding the material I presented. They also have a free choice as to their believes.
melody you still didnt really answer my question. I know exactly where you're coming from though, have you ever read "Hands Of Light: A Guide To Healing Through The Human Energy Field" by Barbara Brennan? Thats an awesome holistic healing book that has no nonsense in it its a wealth of information about the human energy field... It would be interesting to view the aura of someone with both types of diabetes because disease is always present in the human energy field (aura, subtle body, whatever) before it manifests in the physical.
Often people negate or downplay the importance of one or the other (physical vs spiritual) when talking about health and this I feel is a shame because they are BOTH important! The physical body is eventually where disease shows up but not without the help of its counterpart the human energy field! All disease is first present in the human energy field (aura, subtle body, soul, whatever) The energy body can be corrected which should in turn dissolve the disease as this is the level the disease is actually on but my question is... when the energy body has been corrected how can the physical body correct itself if it has no physical mechanism to do so?
Mez,
I cannot tell you more on top what I have already said.
I don't know how it is done, but when an expert healer (not every healer can do it) removes an imperfection from the energy field, it leads to the regeneration in the physical body. An organ can regenerates and go back to normal functioning that it has previously lost. I heard of such healers removing tumors - I know somebody to whom it happened.
Im aware of all that and I do understand it and how it happens throughout the body except for the pancreas. All other parts of the body can be regenerated because they have stem cells the pancreas has no stem cells, its a physical impossibility to regenerate it naturally. Which is a real shame!
Mez,
The video on raw food and diabetes has demonstrated that pancreas can be affected within 30 days, even for type-1 diabetes. Who knows what would happen in one year on the same diet.
I don't know much about stem cells and where they are present. I thought they were only present in embryos. It is a news to me that according to you the rest of our body except for pancreas have stem cells.
Maybe the stem cells are not the only ones responsible to bringing about healing.
Hi everyone, I'm sorry that I didn't make a post on this topic instantaneously, as I would have if I knew it had been posted.
I have to celebrate the fact that the raw food diet is being discussed at the astral pulse, this growth in interest is a sign of a future turning point in the history of mankind, and second hand prosperity for everyone in between.
Well, here goes nothing:
I am a raw-foodist, and I can not stress this enough; eating raw foods SINGLE HANDEDLY CHANGED MY LIFE! And this is NO overstatement, actually the opposite. The world of eating raw, is a new dimension of living. The raw diet, is a gift, an experience, and almost nothing (I have found so far) can bring such a positive change in ones life.
What do you think food can do for you?
Food can do anything for you. Food can lead to disease, and imbalances that lead to suffering, directed either to you, or to anyone you try to "connect" with; A lot of times both.
But at the same time food can transform you, lead to a thriving, energized, spiritual, empowered, awakened, highly conscious, beautifully balanced existence.
Raw food, is a catalyst for a greater life experience; an increase in "connections" with everything. This does include higher beings, inner self, and the nature of your consciousness.
Aside from spiritual, raw food can balance all of the elements in your life, just by choosing to eat food that nature has prepared for you!
Cooking does destroy flavor, their is no + in cooking. It destroys the flavor of the food, and the flavor of your life.
ARE YOU REALLY AWAKE? ARE YOU REALLY HERE? DO YOU FEEL?
You may say yes to all of the above, but eat a raw diet for three weeks and you will say, YES, YES, YES!
Think about it, how can you thrive on a cooked diet? How can you "LIVE" on "DEAD" food; food with no energy, no life force, no anything. Be close to nature, and your being will unlock like a hallway of 5,000,000,000,000 doors unlocking in a sequential wave and explosion of EXPRESSION, and most importantly POSSIBILITIES.
I'm not just some lunatic with no scientific reasoning. I can explain this on a more fundamental level.
What is cooking exactly?
Cooking is burning food with heat. This destroys ALL the enzymes that were present in the original raw form. Enzymes, are speculated to be one of the greatest health discoveries in a decade, and are not present in a highly cooked diet.
Enzymes are not essential for survival, they are however CRUCIAL TO "LIVE."
Cooking food does not just destroy enzymes, it destroys most of the nutrient content of the food as well; 85%
Cooking food removes several links in the chain of health. This does include protein (amino acids), and vitamins as well.
But cooking does not only take away, it alters. Cooking food renders food toxic, plain and simple.
I have been on the raw (vegan) diet for several months, and judging by the level of detox I experience, I have not even come close to getting rid of all the harmful toxins I put into my body. I estimate another 5 months minimum to do so. Thats a lot of toxins, and I have to pay the price; the price of killing myself with toxic, malnourished food. The price of suffering from the food I ate, and not enjoying it either.
So, cooked food is bad, but what is the deal with raw food?
Throughout your life, people have surely told you to eat some raw fruits and vegetables. In their minds, "eat what ever junk food you want, but at least get a couple of fruits for minimal nutrition." Well the raw food diet takes this further.
What happens if you do something new, and different. What if you try something that science, and history thoroughly supports. Something that every raw foodist proclaims as LIFE CHANGING!
What happens?
You nurture your body with the purest, cleanest, most spiritually positively charged food, drenched in vitamins, minerals, good clean essential fat, a VARIETY of amino acids, chlorophyll, enzymes, ormus, antioxidants, phytochemicals, trace minerals, and natures love.
What happens, is very simple.
It is EXTREMELY simple.
What happens is you grow. You grow as a being. Your life energy increases. Your health takes off. Your energy skyrockets. Your depression, and repression fades. YOU OPEN YOUR MIND AND HEART, AND YOUR LIFE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN!
Will someone who eats cooked cow, that was slaughtered, tortured and raised in a factory, fed dead cows, fed genetically altered plants that were grown with chemical pesticides, and chemical fertilizers have a lot of spiritual energy? Will someone who survives of MSG contaminated homogenized, double pasteurized, irradiated, refined food, with toxic ingredients, artificial preservatives, and chemical colors be healthy?
The raw diet is not about limiting, its focus is expansion. Expanding yourself of course. But what many fail to understand, is the possibilities it opens up.
Lets look at what I ate today.
I had some spirulina, some maca, some blueberries, some strawberries, a kiwii, an orange, a couple pears, some cherries, some flax seed, some raw cacoa, some Brazil Nuts, Walnuts, Sunflower kernals, pecans, an avocado, a couple tomatoes, some sprouts, a couple dates, a bunch of green olives, a bunch of black olives, some romaine lettuce, and probably more.
Thats just in one day, I eat different food everyday.
What did you eat today?
For dinner, you probably ate (or will) eat meat with white bread, potatos (in some form or another), and dairy. This could be a cheeseburger, a steak dinner, or any other form. Is this exploring possibilities? Eating the same food, taking the same prescription drugs, and living the same life?
You see that your grandmothers or uncles or parents, brothers, or friends are dying. They may not be "dying" as a doctor would recognize, but in my understanding, anyone who is taking 5 different prescription drugs is a dying slave. When I see this, I say "I don't want that future. I'm going to try something different. Everyone I know over 60 is dying. They have no life force energy and they are slaves to greedy drug companies that value money over your life."
The definition of insane, is to try the same thing over and over, and to expect a new result.
Well guess what, we see these people. We see them in such mass quantity that any doubt that something isn't right is ridiculous. You see how people tell you to live, and you see them dying.
Its "INSANE" to live (or die) as they do and to expect REALLY live.
Something is not right, and this is no accident. Because of greed our society is plagued with "death." This information is out there. NATURE IS THE ANSWER TO HEALTH. We weren't always this organized. We were once very similar to apes. We didn't have fire. We only had nature.
Do animals in the wild get diabetes, osteoporosis, allergies, cancer, depression?
The more we spend on health care, the more diseased we become.
America (if you live there) is the most diseased society in the history of the world! WE SPEND BILLIONS ON HEALTH CARE!!!!!
I am here, I am showing you a different perspective, a better way of living that is more humane, ecologically friendly, spiritually connected, and healthier than ever before. I want to help you, I have no financial interest.
I am giving the results of my experience. I tried it, AND ITS WORKING! This diet is really something valuable, and if you harness it, you experience a positive growth in your life, PERIOD!
I value your experience. I admire your future, and I truly believe that this is definitely something worth trying. I am giving you the information you need to transform your "self." Its your turn to take this information and apply it.
Every raw foodist I know has experienced PHENOMINOL results from this simple diet. The diet with the simple basis; NATURE!
Seriously, finding a raw foodist who isn't trilled with their results is a laughing matter!
You'll have a seriously hard time!
What better way to live, than to live a life of compassion, toward yourself, the world and its habitants, and to the future.
What better way to live, than to live with the flow of nature, instead of against it.
Cavernstoy
P.S. I'll talk more later, I have to get some sleep. (3:13 AM)
Hello Covernstoy,
Thank you for your post.
You expressed the raw vegan philosophy and the way of being and living so eloquently! :-) I am looking forward to your future comments.
And please also visit Adrian's Our Ultimate Reality forum
http://www.ourultimatereality.com/forums/index.php
You will find there many resources in several discussion topics - recipes, and raw vegan lifestyle in general. Look for it in the Abundance and Health Section. And the topic threads are
Healing Power of Food
Raw Vegan? Why?
Raw Vegan Lifestyle
Raw Food Preparation Videos
Raw Vegan Recipes
http://www.ourultimatereality.com
Quote from: cavernstoy on September 29, 2007, 05:26:20
Do animals in the wild get diabetes, osteoporosis, allergies, cancer, depression?
Actually they do...which is sad. But I think it's because of toxins and pollution we create, which we are exposed to no matter what our diet is. It's horrible how many toxins are in our body, I have read that even in a healthy individual there are over 200 different kinds. Beluga whales, for example, are one species that suffer from various kinds of cancers as frequently as human beings. And it is suggested that is because of pollution that cannot be escaped at this stage...
But other animals are as susceptable as we are. Even in the wild.
double post...internet was acting up. :-P
You are right Astir,
Unfortunately in the poluted environment many animals now get sick. Too bad that we treat the Earth and everything on it in this manner.
This short dynamic video shows benefits of eating raw vegan food. Some people in it look pretty amazing!
Go Raw Now Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3xOU2tLl7g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot3DkHe0itM&eurl=http://thebestdayever.com/component/option,com_weblinks/Itemid,88/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGdWFhFtqzA&eurl=http://thebestdayever.com/component/option,com_weblinks/Itemid,88/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOWVGuasgQI&eurl=http://thebestdayever.com/component/option,com_weblinks/Itemid,88/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN7UwlNALj4&eurl=http://thebestdayever.com/component/option,com_weblinks/Itemid,88/
Dear Astir.
Melody I hope I am not to late. I stand behind Melody 100% in everything she said to you Astir. You are so negative. You don't think you can heal yourself but that doesn't mean others can't. Melody is right, you'd rather be right about what the doctors told you then healed.
QuoteI did not get diabetes because of poor dietary decisions. I have it because my chromosomes...(something immutable) predisposed me to have my immune system destroy my pancreas. NO DIET can fix that. Only insulin can fix it. And insulin is not a drug although a drug company manufactures it. It is a necessary hormone.
Yes you did get diabetes because of poor dietary decisions! Its NOT Genetic like we have all been told. Were you or were you not born with diabetes? If you had diabetes for 5 years then is it safe for me to assume you are 5 years old? I have a lot of family members that are Diabetic so I have far more knowledge on diabetes then Melody. Fact is at some point in your life you got diabetes. Now is that genetic or is that environment? I assume you live in the US or a so called Rich Country. Did you know that other countries such as Japan have FAR lower rates of diabetes both type 1 and 2? Diabetes type 1 is rising in the US rapidly. So unless everyone with diabetes genes are getting pregnant and every without diabetes is being killed off by some unknown force then Diabetes is not Genetic. These statistics also apply to Japanese Americans.
Adrian always says that anyone can return the body to its original blue print with the power of the mind. Diabetes type I is not part of this blue print. You go on to say that the immune system stores in its mother bored what it will attack when it sees it again. This computer mother bored memory is the subconscious mind. The same force the controls heart beat. The immune system attack something unnatural and then attacked the cells of the pancrus because they are similar. The body would never attack itself for no reason at all. A natural body doesn't do this. If it was caused by a virus then they would have found a diabetes causing virus.
Melody was also right that stem cells are only in the embryo! NO organs contain stem cells! Where did you hear this? If that was the case it wouldn't be unethical for us to use stem cells and we could take our own. The fact is that every organ in the body is renewed every 7 years. We get a brand new body with completely different cells every 7 years. Dust in your house is mostly your skin cells. If the skin doesn't replace itself then you wouldn't have any skin in a few months. The skin is an organ of the body.
The raw vegan diet not only is mostly low in sugar where as processed foods mostly contain added sugar alcohols and High Fructose Corn Syrup (which is worse then sugar) but will also protect you from other diseases such as Heart disease, cancer, and cardiovascular disease. Diabetics are at higher risks for these and the raw vegan diet would save you money on insulin for the reasons mentioned above. Considering that you are at higher risk for every major disease perhaps sythetic insulin isn't exactly the same as the insulin the body makes after all. Not only that but non diabetes also need to watch their sugar levels as well. Even though we make our own insulin having high blood sugar will cause our bodies to make a lot of insulin. Insulin is nessacary however very bad for the body in large amounts! This is why insulin resistance (Type II) results. The cells are sick of the large amounts of insulin.
With your negative attitude it would not be possible to heal yourself. You must first believe you can. It seems to me that you simply do not have the discipline to do a raw vegan diet and would rather eat burgers, milkshakes and cotton candy while injecting way more insulin then you would other wise need. So good luck with that and have nice life.
I love you Melody!
I was raw for 3 months and i can say i felt 10 times if not 100 times better.
clearer thinking
feeling light
more energy
could meditate easier
sleep easier
But eating just raw food wont help as much as also doing some exercise. Doing at least 30min of walking or something similar.
Nothing is impossible, however some things might take millennium to accomplish. :) If we talking about food we need to see elements in the food. Our body is product of elements and their polarities. Boiled potato is not toxic. I dare you to prove otherwise :)) Fried chicken does not mutate into some alien meat. Yes certain vitamins like C are diminished via cooking. Minerals are more stable. We can eat raw fruit desert for vitamins and some minerals, rest for proteins and minerals.
Was Jesus vegetarian? Mohamed?
As to universal healing - Universe is mental, and provided karma is re deemed body can be healed from any condition. We call have to be born and die many times over :) Whatever conditions you experiencing will pass, good and bad:) Rising above pendulum helps.
Flow
Raw food most likely have more vital energy. That energy is omnipresent and can be absorbed via breath, etc although in reasonable manner as to not cause overload. And when food you eat makes you happy, that happiness alone is very empowering and healing :)
It`s the quality of life. Do you want to enjoy it or drag it a bit longer in present re incarnation with sadness? :) And as we are eternal spirit what is there to be afraid of unless you mistake your ego for who you are.
Flow.
Astir, It is not my intention to offend you, but I must say you assume too much.
I am on a raw vegan diet for a while now (reversed my diabetes; my whole family tree is full of diabetics and it eventually tried to take a grasp on me) and, not only have I lost all my excessive over weight, but I am very productive now (rarely feel the need for sleep which provides me with the opportunity), very active, never sick, never ill. I do not try to change people with words, it is useless as I have seen, instead I change those around me by making them look at how I have changed and how I am changing in due course. Eventually, they come up with their questions.
Do not believe me if you wish, it is alright as long as I have tried to help.
Cheers
I'd love to read that book! my gf has an auto-immune disease (coeliac) and yeah the only way to treat it is with a permenant gluten free diet. I learnt a few good things from your post and you're definately right not to trust pharmacueticals!!! Anything money making is approached with caution... I dont ever trust corporations. EVER.
For those concerned about not getting enough protein on raw food, I suggest contacting people at the Hippocrates Health Institute to check on this issue. They had thousands of people coming through their institution with all sorts of ailments and all the blood types.