Limb Regeneration, Bone Straightening

asstray85 · November 16, 2002, 11:45:08

Mark, i am guessing you want your foreskin back?, lol. Me too! any suggestions?

-Steve

Tom · November 16, 2002, 12:05:14

Deepak Chopra keeps talking about the rates at which different body parts are replaced as their cells and atoms are replaced. The whole body is supposed to be replaced something like once every 7 years. Things like skin, stomach lining, and the liver are replaced much more quickly. He said that it is memory which is responsible for any change in the body lasting longer than seven years. As the body parts are being gradually replaced, they are replaced around the pattern of the old body parts. One idea behind replacing body parts is to get a pattern of some sort and allow the body to heal itself into the pattern. When bones get crushed some of the fragments can be lost. I think I read something about using coral to replace the missing fragments. Embryonic stem cells added to fill in the pattern would go a long way toward helping the problem, too, because they can be influenced to change into whatever is missing.

jilola · November 16, 2002, 12:12:56

Tom: I was waiting for that! Hee
So why don't tattoos disappear after 7 years? That's one mystery I haven't been able to get even started on.

As for foreskins. the word is plastic surgery. Now how would you find a donor...

2cents

jouni

kifyre · November 16, 2002, 12:35:54

quote:
Originally posted by asstray85:
Mark, i am guessing you want your foreskin back?, lol. Me too! any suggestions?
-Steve

lol, ok, yes.

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As long as I have a soapbox, here's a nice "lost list" (

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http://www.norm-socal.org/lost.html

(but please take this to astralchat if you want to debate circumcision)

Mark

kifyre · November 16, 2002, 12:48:52

quote:
Originally posted by jilola:
As for foreskins. the word is plastic surgery. Now how would you find a donor...

Hey Jouni,

I know you're kidding around, but the word is not plastic surgery, for a variety of reasons. Most popular "healing" method now is "foreskin restoration" which is applying gentle tension to the remaining skin for a few years to stimulate the growth of new tissue. A restored foreskin provides protection, gliding, and regained sensitivity but cannot replace the complicated anatomy and sensitivity of an original, intact foreskin. This is a viable option for most people, and I'm keeping it in mind. For now, as you can see from my post, I'm exploring the possibility of a "true," anatomically correct healing.

(Again, I provide this for background information. Please keep this post vaguely on topic with respect to my original question. This is important!

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All the best,

Mark

Tom · November 16, 2002, 13:10:39

If all we need is a pattern and cells to fill it in (blood vessels are good, too) we can focus on ways to create a pattern for a missing body part and then find ways of getting cells to move into it.

Tattoo ink and scar tissue stay because the fresh tissue is build around them. I got a surgical scar in 1993 from surgery to repair a broken right femur. The scar is still there this year, 2002, despite the fact that the rod which was put in in 1993 was removed in 1994. The scar changes color as more blood or less blood flow through it.

We have access to the astral plane. Can we use thoughts to form a pattern and to attract fresh cells to move in over the pattern? Something siilar for straightening bones, from which calcium is constantly being taken from and replaced to?

kifyre · November 16, 2002, 14:07:15

quote:
Originally posted by Tom:
We have access to the astral plane. Can we use thoughts to form a pattern and to attract fresh cells to move in over the pattern? Something siilar for straightening bones, from which calcium is constantly being taken from and replaced to?

That's a really good point, Tom. I was thinking about this too. If there truly is an "etheric template" for the physical body, then perhaps working with it would be a possible path to healing. I've been exploring this possibility using body awareness, but I haven't come to any conclusions yet. Maybe some, "surgery" on the human energy body from a higher being as routinely performed through "mediums" such as Barbara Ann Brennan?

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So another angle, working with the body template or cell memory, possibly while out of body...

I think it's really important to not actually "do" anything, but only to remove blocks preventing natural healing. I'd rather trust my body than my conscious mind with something like this.

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Mark

Tom · November 16, 2002, 14:33:18

Are we agreeing or disagreeing?

Going out of body would make changes simpler, and the fact that time is not the barrier it is in the physical means it is possible to look ahead to see what will happen if an experiment is tried. A potential future. If you don't like the results, choose another path.

kifyre · November 17, 2002, 11:01:30

quote:
Originally posted by Tom:
Are we agreeing or disagreeing?
Going out of body would make changes simpler, and the fact that time is not the barrier it is in the physical means it is possible to look ahead to see what will happen if an experiment is tried. A potential future. If you don't like the results, choose another path.

Hey, Tom: I think we're agreeing. I made too many comments in my last post.

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Especially what you're saying in the quote above makes sense, but there's an issue of practicality. I cannot project consistently yet (that's an understatement) and I don't have much lucidity or control when I do get out. Does anyone have experience with what Tom is describing above? I know Nita has an article on RB's site describing how she does some out of body work to get ahold of a car. Sort of the same idea.

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Also, does anyone have experience doing "bodywork" in any form while out of body? (Interpret as you will.)

More reasons to practice projection.

Mark

auraseer · November 17, 2002, 11:14:58

Hi,
Would biokinesis work(the shaping of dna)? You could make a dna strand where you want to regenerate and multiply them?

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Tom · November 17, 2002, 12:06:12

DNA by itself is not enough. That is why a virus needs to infect living tissue to multiply. The nice thing about DNA is that every cell contains a complete set of information on how the original parts were made. It is not all done at once, though. Genes are turned on and off at specific times when the body is forming in the womb. I read that kundalini guides the formation of the body and then becomes dormant in the base chakra. Some authors have talked about examining DNA from higher perspectives than the physical. This is where all my information goes out the window. Perhaps by studying how cuts, bruises, and other injuries heal from the astral it could be possible to study how the body produces more healthy tissue to fill in an established pattern. It could also provide ideas on how to re-create a pattern for missing body parts. An extension to this would be removing scar tissue from organs such as the liver. A distant application might be a way of isolating and killing specific microbes.

asstray85 · November 17, 2002, 14:52:58

It is well known that people that are missing limbs still have a sense & feeling for the limb.

this quote
"Amputees can often feel their missing limbs. An absent arm may swing during a walk, a lost leg may bend. An amputated limb may even ache. Neurologists attributed this "phantom limb" phenomenon to a map" gradually drawn by the brain in response to daily experiences of limb motion and feeling. When a limb is gone, the neural map remains -- and shortened nerves in the stump continue to send their messages."

from http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m1511/n2_v19/20159526/p1/article.jhtml

The article explains how the brain is what is causing the feeling of having the missing limb but it seems it can somehow be connected with the astral. Also if this happens for limbs then it must happen for foreskin as well. I can definatly and distinctly feel exactly what I am missing at times.

Can this have anything to do with the astral or purely with the brain?, and also if you can effect the brain from the astral and your brain has a map of your body, cant it be possible to regenerate these missing body parts if your brain already knows precicely whats missing and it only needs the activation to heal and regrow. If other animals cant do it why cant we?. Any suggestions?

-Steve

kifyre · November 17, 2002, 16:50:19

quote:
Originally posted by Tom:
The nice thing about DNA is that every cell contains a complete set of information on how the original parts were made. It is not all done at once, though. Genes are turned on and off at specific times when the body is forming in the womb. I read that kundalini guides the formation of the body and then becomes dormant in the base chakra.

Bruce H. Lipton, Ph.D. (http://spiritcrossing.com/lipton/biology.shtm) debunks the idea that DNA is "deterministic," that it regulates its own expression. Please scroll down to "Dispelling the Myth of Genes:" after following the link above. DNA seems to be merely a vastly complicated template that is drawn upon by whatever is actually regulating growth and maintenance of the body. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I read the article a while back. Lipton thinks it's environment/chemical/electromagnetic factors that control the expresson of genes. And maybe (very likely) it's what you describe above, Tom, that's really guiding the show. After the kundalini energy finishes it job, then other energetic systems take over. (So awakening your Kundalini really is a rebirth...) Tom do you have any references to what you mention above?

When a Newt or Salamander (or whatever it is) is regenerating a limb, gene expression goes wild (in a fantastically precise, step-by-step way). I was reading about it online, but I closed the window. So, through high level intent, visualization, and energy work, can we get our bodies to do the same?

Mark

kifyre · November 17, 2002, 17:01:57

quote:
Originally posted by asstray85:
Also if this happens for limbs then it must happen for foreskin as well. I can definatly and distinctly feel exactly what I am missing at times.

And so, it seems, can I. I suppose I should be thankful that I don't have anything else missing to compare the two phantom sensations...

quote:
...if your brain already knows precicely whats missing and it only needs the activation to heal and regrow. If other animals cant do it why cant we?. Any suggestions?

Perhaps it really is that simple: eat plenty of biomass and nutrients, maintain constant "energetic activation pressure" and wait?

From (http://www.rawpaleodiet.org/healing-body-electronics.html):
(we can't know how much of the below is grossly exaggerated, if any of it is, at least not yet.

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"pointholding -- holding of specific points on the body, nonstop, for a period of from 1/2 hour to 14 hours, where the pointholder keeps their finger (or thumb, or elbow) absolutely still, and where the pointholdee lies on a massage table, and remains perfectly still for the duration of the pointholding. During pointholding, the pointholder may fel tremendous heat or burning in her or his finger presing the point ("the heat of healing love"), while the pointholdee may experience heat burning or pain at locations within their body which are remote from that point being pressed. If heat on the pointholder's finger subsides for more than 5 minutes, this means that either all suppressed material linked to this point has been exhausted, or that critical nutrients have been exhausted."

"many were claimd to have happened a number of times.:
repair and regeneration of all signs and symptoms of severe scoliosis, resulting in perfect spinal conformance, alignment and posture
repair and regeneration in one 7-hour session of massive spinal deterioration which had resulted in surgical removal of numerous vertebra and insertion of steel rods in and along the spine; the healings reportedly involved complete "dematerialization of the steel rods" and complete return to normal spinal anatomy and function
repair and total regeneration of massive tissue damage due to massive prior heart attacks
repair of masive tissue and functional damage done by severe prior electric shock
complete restoration to normal appearance, functioning, and intellectual ability of autistic and Down's Syndrome children
repair and total regeneration of freshly broken limbs (arms and legs) in a few hours
repair and total regeneration of quadriplegia due to spinal damage
repair and total regeneration of paraplegia due to spinal damage
complete regenration in one or two sessions of massive damage from stroke
massive and complete eye color (iris color) change (often seen in the alternative health world as a marker of healing and cleansing of tissue toxins) from dark brown to totally clear blue eyes in one or two weeks or less
change or restoration of hair color (the entire hair length, from the roots to the tips) from gray to complete restoration of natural color in one session, or at times, one to four weeks of BE work
growth of limbs to restore proper limb length in persons who had a leg or arm which had been shorter than the other, in one session

as well as the following, which John did mention parenthetically (in later years) as happening only rarely in BE:

total regeneration of all teeth, with complete repair of all filled (artificially restored) and empty caries (cavities) lesions, where all prior filings simply "popped out", often overnight
total regenertion of missing teeth, often overnight"

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Mark

kifyre · November 16, 2002, 10:37:55

Does anyone have any material on large-scale healing, such reshaping bone, regenerating a lost finger, etc? (I want to heal something not quite so radical related to myself, but I figured I'd ask big.)

Basically, anything that's "locked in," something that healed wrong, or a body part that's supposedly gone forever.

Some ideas I have at the moment are personal focused intent, prayer for higher healing, prayer for more ideas, meditation and raising energy to increase my potential for change.

Thanks, everyone. Much appreciated, and all the best. If I start getting results I'll post, as with my eyesight topic. (Which I'm going to ask Adrian to move to this forum.)

Mark

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