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Title: Opinons on "Quantum-Touch" Healing...
Post by: Mattimo on October 09, 2006, 02:01:03
I suffer from scoliosis (abnormal spinal curvature) and while doing a google search on natural approaches to treating the disorder I came across "Quantum-Touch" healing.  Admittantly, I rather dislike the name as it comes across a bit new-age'ish to me and it could very well be a scam... 

The website is: http://www.quantumtouch.com/

Straight from the site, "the Quantum-Touch practitioner learns to focus and amplify life-force energy, which is most often referred to as "Chi" or "Prana". This is accomplished by combining various breathing and body awareness exercises. When the practitioner holds a high vibrational field of life-force energy around an affected area, through a process of resonance and entrainment, the client naturally matches the vibration of the practitioner, allowing one's own biological intelligence to do whatever healing it deems necessary."

Any opinions?  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Opinons on "Quantum-Touch" Healing...
Post by: Zsuzsi on October 12, 2006, 01:06:53
It works! A group of friends were discussing it a while back and a couple of them had attended the video workshops, so I ordered the set of dvd's. The results are incredible.

To feel the hips realign using the breathing and sweeping using just a light soft touch is all it takes.

QT is a stand alone modality, but enhances other healing methods.

I was working on someone's knee - this person lives with chronic pain and in less than 30minutes the pain had reduced from a 9.8 down to 1

Quantum-Touch®The Power to Heal Through Running Energy by Kathy Wilson quote from article: The high vibration impacts matter on a sub-atomic or quantum level and works its way up through the cells, nerves, muscles, and tissues. Before the visual effects can be seen smaller healings are taking place. QT has shown itself to be highly effective in both organic and systemic conditions involving musculoskeletal imbalances, trauma, pain, and inflammation due to injury or surgery. It facilitates healing on the emotional level as well, with spontaneous releases of blocked energy, moving emotions up to the surface.

from article http://www.wholife.com/issues/10_3/05_article.html
Title: Re: Opinons on "Quantum-Touch" Healing...
Post by: Flannery on October 22, 2006, 13:46:35
Zsuzsi came here (on these boards) to post that ONE post. Mmm...

I have severe scoliosis myself and bought 2 quantum touch books.

My scoliosis is 45 degrees and 49 degrees (an "S" shape).

Quantum touch might work is someone does the touch on you. Self-applied : does not work.
Title: Re: Opinons on "Quantum-Touch" Healing...
Post by: Mattimo on October 24, 2006, 17:12:42
Hmm.  I have recently withdrawn and read the Quantum-Touch book from my local library.  Suffice it to say, I could have re-written the relevant technique in approximately five pages.  The book primarly provides anecdotal stories as evidence for the miracles and efficacy of Quantum-Touch and incessantly repeats various aspects of the technique throughout it's chapters.  The Quantum-Touch technique is highly reminiscent of NEW by Robert Bruce in that involves the stimulation of the energy body coupled with deep breathing.  It may indeed work, who knows, as I have yet to try it.  However, I must admit than I am highly critical of the "certified practitioners" who charge $75 an hour for a largely untested "faith science."  That is to say, I believe because of it's lack of history and verifiable proof, a more modest price would be practical.

Flannery, I stumbled across another alternative treatment for scoliosis, should you be interested.  The treatment is called the "Hurley/ Osborn Technique" and more information can be found here: http://www.hurleyosborn.com/index.html  I have an appointment tomorrow and shall post about my take on it.
Title: Re: Opinons on "Quantum-Touch" Healing...
Post by: Flannery on October 24, 2006, 18:35:55
Please do post about your appointment tomorrow. I am VERY interested.

About Quantum Touch, I received the 2 books as a gift, and I agree with you that all could have been summarized within about 15-20 pages, except perhapse the book about how to use the hands - in different positions, and even within a group (sounds all kinky lol... but it's NOT).

Usually Quantum Touch "people" work that way : they come to your town, and you are being offered a free afternoon of learning how to do it. I had the idea of going there myself just to meet with other people (with whom to practice) AS WELL as having a session done on me. But unfortunately I could not make it.

I don't think I would recommend going to a practicioner until you get one "free" trial. Unless you have a lot of money - and I will assume that you don't have any excess there.

Let me know how it goes. I will check the link.

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Do you have one leg longer than the other. I do. I now put something in one of my shoes to compensate. The "Hurley/ Osborn Technique" seems good - yet maybe you'll need to have 20 appointments before you get results - with more appoitments to prevent things to return to their previous equilibrium point. The so-called equilibrium point toward which we are compensating is often hard to "understand". Scoliosis is not always explainable by examining structure alone.
Title: Re: Opinons on "Quantum-Touch" Healing...
Post by: Mattimo on October 29, 2006, 00:23:08
Flannery,

I have just discovered that the Hurley/Osborne technique is also referred to as Spinal Touch. It is my understanding that the main procedure was developed by John Hurley as discussed in his book(s) Aquarian Age Healing. The Spinal Touch website is: www.spinaltouchtreatment.com  The procedure involves pinpointing sensitive areas on the back via a light touch and marking the points with a small sticker. The goal is to desensitize these areas via the parasympathetic nervous system by lightly touching trigger points on the buttox with one hand and touching the sensitive areas on the back again with the other hand (should you or anyone be interested in this information).

As for my appointment, I honestly do not know if it works (my condition remained unchanged). My suspicion is, however, like yours in that I believe it would indeed likely take many many treatments for there to be any noticable difference/improvment.

Unrelated to the techniqie above, I have discovered yet another approach towards treating scoliosis and/or any other of a variety of diseases via a device called S.C.E.N.A.R. (Self-Controlled-Energo-Neuro-Adaptive-Regulation). Essentially this small electrical device is a biofeedback machine that enters into a communication dialogue with your brain/body via the skin. Purportedly, the device was developed in Russia during the space race as a means to treat cosmonauts and remained classified since 1986 or so. I am not entirely sure how the device operates but I believe it is capable of recognizing asymmetries in the human energy field and stimulate the body to correct these asymmetries by mimicking nerve impulses instructing the body to correct itself. I had the pleasure today of being a guinea pig to a small group of students who were finishing their advanced certification for operating the device. Moreover, in one session my spine was visibly straighter, my hip which was one inch higher on one side (consequently causing one leg to be 1/2 inch longer) became level and my shoulder blades were also level.  I am thoroughly impressed by this device and in my opinion, it would be worthwhile to google S.C.E.N.A.R. for more information.
Title: Re: Opinons on "Quantum-Touch" Healing...
Post by: Leo Volont on October 29, 2006, 04:30:01
Dear Mattimo,

Don't bother looking for good healing 'techniques'.  Look for a good healer.

There is a Practice much like Reiki.  its called Jin Shin Jytsu and was brought out of Japan by a Japanese Lady, by the name of Mary Burkmeister (yes, I am puzzled by that too).  Anyway, it was said that Mary Burkmeister could heal people with bent up bones while people watched. 

Well, she taught her 'technique'.  But really, she was the only one who was ever able to really use it.  She was a healer and frankly she could do her healing anyway she liked.

So look for somebody with a tried and true history of being able to actually heal people.

From what I have heard the Healing Baths at Lourdes France are still the most visited Healing Shrines in the World today and people are still speaking of cures.

Make a few calls to Catholic Religious Goods Stores and find out who is putting together a Tour to Lourdes France.   Here, take a look at this Link from Lourdes France:   http://www.lourdes-france.org/index.php?goto_centre=ru&contexte=en&id=491&id_rubrique=488
Title: Re: Opinons on "Quantum-Touch" Healing...
Post by: hugo on October 29, 2006, 19:30:19
I've met people who've done the training and when the afterglow is said and done there is very little substance.  I'm not saying that the methods are crap - but from my experience if a person comes in and is not a natural healer it takes time a practice to develop.  I'm not necessarily of the mind set that you have to be a born healer - I've met a few people who through years of dedicated practice developed some very tangible skills, but promoting weekend workshops and the like to equal practitioner levels is ripping people off.  I've had the same experiences with "the reconnection" practioners.  For those that aren't natural gifted healing is like meditation, it takes more than a few sessions and wishful thinking.  I'd tend to agree with the view to look for a good healer/teacher not necessarily the technique.  A good healer understands the principles and can make any technique even bad ones work.  A healer who doesn't understand the principles at an experiential level won't even make an excellent technique work.  This is not to discourage people from practicing, it's simply to promote understanding our level sincerely in order that we may systematically and honestly progress. IMO this is the beauty of astral projection - you either project or you don't.  If you don't you revise and keep practicing - you don't lie to yourself that it's working.  The opposite happens a lot in healing - you see people talking the talk and then - nothing.  One of my friends who has natural polyvision has said it is embarassing and a shame how many "healers" she sees  waving their hands about and speaking nice words but healing next to nothing.     
Title: Re: Opinons on "Quantum-Touch" Healing...
Post by: Antranik on November 19, 2006, 11:34:29
Hey everybody, I've been away from the AP forums for about a year now and used to come and read often for years before.  I came back this morning to see if there are any interesting information and new developments in the field over here and I am somewhat disappointed because there seems to be a lack of support for the QT side.  And generally in the Healing forum there isn't enough support for most things actually, so I'm going to put my feedback up as well and maybe help stirr up more activity for whoever is interested.

On the subject of Quantum Touch.. I bought the book a little over 2 years ago b/c quite frankly the reviewers on amazon were saying good things about it.  I know that from the first time I started using it, I had a great experience when I was trying it on my mom.  It's a very simple exercise where you pick some breathing techniques (like 2 counts in - 6 counts out) and combine it with your body awareness.

In Astral Dynamics, the NEW techniques tells you to put your awareness and perform body sweeps.  Now, combine this with some breathing techniques and you get very close to being able to do QT yourself.  Let me explain, during the "in" breath, you bring energy from your feet up to your head and on the out breathe you bring this energy to continue flowing out your hands and into the palms.  How do you feel the energy?  Well, just like Robert Bruce explains with Tactile sensations and body sweeps, you just have to put your awareness on it.  So if you just become aware of your feet and start moving the awareness up to your head and down your arms, you just did a sweep.


Anyway, so honestly if I give you a few more hints on how to learn it, you can do it yourself  right now and be very effective.  It all sounds like bold statements but honestly, it's not a big deal.  Once you try it.. it works everytime and it's just damn good to help people feel better.

Hugo and Leo, on your statement of finding a healer.. with this technique we learn that we are not doing any of the healing actually.  QT raises your own body's energy level and directs it all to resonate strongly through the hands, so when you apply your hands simply on the surface of where the pain is, bone misalignment or headache or whatever, the clients body energy level in that area increases as well.  And quite frankly the clients body has no choice, it's just a law of physics.  The process is called entrainment:  when you have 2 tuning forks and you bang one and bring it next to the still ones, the still ones raises its vibration to match the higher vibration.

And when you provide this energy level, youfacilitate in accelerating healing process.  You don't do any of the actual healing.  The same way your body knows what the hell to do with a sandwich after you chew and swallow it, or repair a wound, your body knows how to heal itself, it does it all the time.  When you provide this energy, your cells immediately respond to it and use their innate intelligence to go about repairing itself much faster and sometimes instantly.  So, on the subject of finding a good healer.. you can learn to do this technique immediately after reading about it and like i said before, quite frankly the client is doing all the healing, you don't need to know what the body needs to do to make a headache stop, lol, you're just apply the energy. 

Man, this is a lot for Sunday morning, longest post, ever, lol.  I'm just passionate about it though cause it's just advancements in the field that i think everyone, not just holistic doctors, should be aware of.
Title: Re: Opinons on "Quantum-Touch" Healing...
Post by: Nay on November 19, 2006, 12:03:04
Welp, that was interesting and slightly egotistical.  I'm pretty passionate about people coming in here stating how we aren't up to code..according to the prophecy.. :lol: 

Perhaps you can come at this topic from a different angle without the negative comments towards the very people you are trying to enlighten? 

My opinion. :)
Title: Re: Opinons on "Quantum-Touch" Healing...
Post by: bronzebow on November 25, 2006, 18:22:27
In the spirit of keeping with the prophecy    :lol:

I always hear an astounding amount of good testimonials from "new" healing modalities.  Likewise Amazon seems to be taking a lot more of the positive rather than the negative reviews - but I think we can all work that one out.  I'm not interested in denigrating any healing or spiritual systems at all, but I do appreciate and encourage being critical for the reason of "absorbing what is useful and discarding what is not."  As far as Quantum Touch goes I haven't yet met a practitioner who is able to produce what I would consider significant results.  Sure I can "feel the energy", but we anyone who has been around for a while knows that this in itself does not equal "healing."  Again I am not detracting from the technique itself - the technique is a technique, it does not need to promote itself as the greatest thing since sliced bread(crustless) - people will do that for it. 

What's really interesting is that since the time that I've been able to see energy changes and interactions I've noted far more "healings" that are clearly and ultimately impotent while the practitioner declares that "it is shifted" or "give it a few days or weeks."  It is clear to see that all that has occurred is the the "room has been heated by some energy channelling."  My personal opinion from this is that a little bit of realism is required.  If healers are just honest about what they can and can't do, and about what has and hasn't occured then the client isn't encouraged to be led into delusion or as often can be the case after many years just get jaded with the whole process. 

Having said all this I must say that I have had the opportunity to work with some very skilled healers also and oh my god there is no comparison.  My point is simply to say that being honest about the extent of our skills allows us to grow and develop solid healing ability.  Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Opinons on "Quantum-Touch" Healing...
Post by: filipcza on January 15, 2007, 08:58:29
Hi everybody!

Quantum touch works as it is advertised. At least it works for me.

I learned it from the book and straightened my sisters scoliosis with it IN 10 MINUTES!

I have been doing reiki for years and I have never seen such dramatic results before.

I must admit it was a shock to see that kind of healing that fast, but it did happen. My brother had done some work on her before, and he said that he managed to get some of the curve to go away. I checked her spine and saw that she had a very noticeable curve on her lower back. She had that curve for about 10 years.

I treated her about 10 minutes using "tripod fingers" and went down her spine at the location of the curve. During healing she said she felt movement in her back.

When I stopped and checked her spine again it was straight. I almost didn't believe it myself, after all, that sort of healing is considered to be impossible. But I couldn't deny what was in front of me.

-Pete