Duality (and non-duality)

[Tom]

This sort of thing is fun to talk about, but eventually it is something that just has to be experienced. A perfect philosophical understanding is not necessary. Just imagine what it would be like at first and let it go from there. When you have done it, the experience provides more to think about when considering technicalities.

[Fat_Turkey]

As far as I know duality is the feeling that you exist in two places at the same time, and is sometimes felt during an OBE. This I got from Astral Dynamics.

Meanwhile I really admire the fact that people here have come across teachers into metaphysics who actually are open about it in class. I wish that would happen to me because then people would stop making fun of me[|)].

Later
-FT

[MJ-12]

Pzasp

[PeacefulWarrior]

Hi!  Sorry, I haven't checked in here for a while.  Thanks for the link, it was real interesting.  I agree with most, if not all, of what he said, although I might word it differently.

The class I am taking is actually 20th C Brit and American Lit, but the professor, who I believe is Hindu (although he's a regular old white guy").  Although we are not drawing any direct parallels between the text(s) and the concept of duality, he did infer that by understanding these modes of thinking, one can open his or her eyes and see anything, including literature, in a different way.

For me none of this was necessarily new, but it is interesting to sit down for a few hours a day and really chew on it with your mind.  Little glimpses of the truth come and go as you strive to grasp these "higher truths".  

To tell you the truth, LDS theology (although we claim not to have a theology because it's too limiting) is so expansive and "mystic" that non of this is a shock to the system.

Anyway, keep the links and comments coming.  This is good stuff (better, at least, than listening to me rant about political and/or sexuality, right?!)[]

[Terry B]

quote:Originally posted by timeless

Dear Peaceful Warrior,
Some say that our male female duality are even reflected in our bone structure.  We have a femur (one bone at the top representing higher self or non-duality) and then the two bones below that join at the knee.  Of the two bones one is more prominant and stronger than the other. This stronger bone representing our main aspect (in my case female side) and then the smaller bone is my masculine side (your femanine side).  Then we reach the foot (or hand) and there is a multitude of aspects to the personality.  I found this analogy to the body an interesting one.  

Interesting. Where can I find info about this?

Thanks.

[noradrenalin]

Thanks for the Soultravel-article. I needed it, and suddenly
it was there. Seems like all exploring is spirtitual.

The basic tenet of the Tibetan Dzogchen practice, is that
reality, including the individual, is allready perfect and
complete, and need only be recognized for what it truly is.
  Some buddhist masters become fully realized, and when they
die, they get what is called "the energy body". The physical
body dissolves, leaving only hair and nails.

I really want your opinion on this: The full realization,
that the buddhist talk about...Do you think that is the
ultimate goal? That like love is something to live for,
so is also full realization? That every humans goal is
this realization? Then what? What does universe/god/conscious
want that for? Is the universe better explored when
humans have full realization? Peace, love and happiness,
is obviously positive, but is it NEEDED? Does the universe
NEED humans to have full realization? Or is it all for fun?
The universe just dancing with itself, for fun, with
absolutely nothing having to be accomplished or recognized?

I hope you give me lots of opinions on this.

Yours

[PeacefulWarrior]

I am taking an upper division English class and, for some unexplainable reason, the Professor has only taked about one thing for the first 3 weeks: duality (and non-duality).  He has talkd about it largely in the context of Hinduism and Buddhism, using a number of texts including the Dao (tao).

It's all VERY fascinating and I love to compare it to my beliefs...well, using the word "compare" is actually a poor way of saying it because I feel tha a great deal of dualism/Hinduism is true and therefore I compare it to the truth that I know.

ANYWAY- do any of you know much about duality or thought/meditated about it?  I would love to discuss some of it.