A googleplex is a 1 followed by a google of zeroes.
With no beginning to time, you can say that we have already done everything possible. It is just that we do not remember it. There are times when just going week to week or day to day is an incredible monotony. It is probably fortunate not to have the sense of having lived nearly identical lives for billions or trillions of years.
Not that I believe in God or immortal souls. :)
I have no experience with reincarnation but I believe the point in it is to learn as much as we can so we don't have to reincarnate, thus it would be very hard to experience everything(Im most likely wrong about this so someone please correct me).
I dont believe we will ever become one with god, so what else will happen?
You don't beleive but billions of others do. Perhaps not God, put some sort of "spiritual bliss". But if you want an answer for one who does not believe in a god, then I would say....hmm, I really have no idea. I can't imagine a reason for reincarnation to go on forever. Anyone?
and billions of others don't. what does that have to do with anything?
doesn't make you any more or less right, it's just a not very intersting factoid. you could be the only one in the universe to believe something, and be right. I mean, talk about millions, look at how many [enter some large religeous group here... examples, jews, christians, etc...even though im jewish i still dont believe in it btw] there are out there... (hint, hint)
I believe we remember all our lives. maybe we dont recall them now, in this life, but when we die we do.
any other comments?
two things really terrify me:
the concept of absolute obliteration of a being (so that nothing remains of their being; not their mind, their spirit, body, anything), and eternity. i do not fear eternity so much as i might, because i am hoping that there is something about eternity that i don't understand while i am still in this mortal coil, something that will take away the fear of it.
~kakkarot
and billions of others don't. what does that have to do with anything?
doesn't make you any more or less right, it's just a not very intersting factoid. you could be the only one in the universe to believe something, and be right. I mean, talk about millions, look at how many [enter some large religeous group here... examples, jews, christians, etc...even though im jewish i still dont believe in it btw] there are out there... (hint, hint)
Exactly my point, im glad you understand.
the concept of absolute obliteration of a being (so that nothing remains of their being; not their mind, their spirit, body, anything), and eternity. i do not fear eternity so much as i might, because i am hoping that there is something about eternity that i don't understand while i am still in this mortal coil, something that will take away the fear of it.
I think I fear eternity more. I could live knowing I can expect a true end at the end of life, but an eternity of reincarnation is truly frighting to me. It's the nature of eternity that matters to me.
Kakkarot, that is exactly how I feel.
back to the topic, please?
Maybe we're like fish in a really big fishtank.
Apparently fish only have a memory span of several seconds, so if the tank is large enough, they can keep swimming around and around looking at what they think is something new all the time.
What if we have the same thing happen to our memories each time we reincarnate?
The again, I have trouble remembering what I did a few days ago!
Probably little chance that our souls would ever perish. The way I see it is our souls are energy. Basic laws of physics say that energy can neither be created or destroyed, just changed. Though this could mean that the energy of our souls gets changed into something else and our consciousness just ceases to exist.
Umm....does anyone else get a headache when thinking about this kind of stuff too long?
Nevermind, I'll just go do a lap of the tank and I'll have forgotten about it by the time I come back.
James.
"Umm....does anyone else get a headache when thinking about this kind of stuff too long?
Nevermind, I'll just go do a lap of the tank and I'll have forgotten about it by the time I come back."
That would be a "YES!"
I personally don't believe the soul carries on indefinatly. But in the event it does lets look at it this way.
Well yes I suppose the soul could eventually get bored if it continued living, dieing, and reliving, again and again. Eventually every thing would be learned and there would no longer be a point.
But now the alternate view.
Can any one honestly say that they are the exact same person they were last year? Has nothing been learned or changed in you in tha time? Surely there must be at least one thing, even if it is small, that has changed. That being so, you are no longer the person you were last year. This leads into the possability of repeating certain experiences that you have already had, but since now you are a different person, the experience "can" be a new one. New light "could" be shed on this experience now because of the change that has occurred with in you.
The soul may work in the same way. With each life the soul is changed and affected by that life. In essience it becomes a new, different soul, open to different interpitations of the "possible" experiences. In this way the cycle would never end because the soul would be differnt with passing.
That being said there still lays the possibility of intended re-occurrance. What I mean by this is that even though, over the past year, you have changed there are still things you enjoy doing. And you may even enjoy them into your next life. Could the soul function at the same level? What if your soul enjoyed being, let's say a doctor? The possability is there that your soul could return just so that it could be a doctor again even though it has done so an uncountable number of times before. Even if it is not learning or growing by the experience it could return simply for the joy of the experience. Many of us repeat this same process every day. We often do things that we gain no knowladge from, it doesn't add to, or change us in any way, but we do it anyway simply because we enjoy it.
yes i believe our souls are here because it is fun for them to live here. they want to live here so they do. no karma, not set cycles, its just kinda, hey! i wanna live in that one now! wheeee....
and i believe we remember our lives all of them, kinda like we remember our dreams... dont think about them all the time, but you know, enough so that it matters. we have other lives outside of our dreams.... do our souls have other 'lives' outside of our physical lives?
and if so, would that 'life' ever get boreing? think about it, we have ETERNITY. never ending. what are our souls supposed to do with all that endless time? even if we do such and such for what seems like forever, when we're done, we will still have FOREVER ahead of us.
right?
quote:
Originally posted by Spirit_Gurl
then what'll we do?
Excellent questions. I wouldn't mind talking with you offline, feel free to email me (if you're interested in dialog).
But let me just say this, if you are interested in verifyable facts rather than theories and emotion, I'll be happy to tell you about the biblical Jesus and His purpose and plan for you.
Within the christian framework, I can first say that God loves you and values you. And that valuation gives you inherent worth. It gives you essential value. You are not mere furniture in the living room of the universe.
Second, Jesus said he is the resurrection and the life. The hope of the resurrection is that life is not meaningless, and there is the answer in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus.
Third, He promised that He would never leave those who believe upon him. He will give us strength and comfort even when our lives become chaotic.
which one of those is fact, exactly?
wow. i guess no one cares about my questions anymore.
It could easily be that I am wrong in my interpretation of things. Here it is anyway: No one here appears to be able to give answers to your liking, so we are all waiting to see if anyone else can give an answer you like.
yeah, about that, i'm sorry. i guess i sounded like a grump, but you gotta understand, im kinda having a spiritual crisis here. i mean, from what i understand, i have nothing to look forward to but an eternity of boredom, leaving my life, your live, and everyone else's current life on earth basically meaningless. which is really depressing. and im sorry, but when i get depressed, i just want answers. and when i dont get them, i get so frustrated, i just kinda snap at people. i apologise again, like i said, i seem to sound more upset online than i do in real life. but i still wasnt joking about the spiritual crisis thing..... theres nothing i can do. ive tried stuff, tried meditating, all that stuff, but it isnt working for me. and im thinking, 'oh great. now no one else understands my question, and they wont even help! i mean, only 5 people out of hundreds of people on this site replied! does anyone care? oh wait. who cares if they care? none of this will matter in the long run anyway, i mean, all i have to look forward to is an eternity of boredom! eventually, there will be nothing left to do.'
imagine how that feels? then maybe youll be able to answer my question better, or something. (im not being sarcastic, im serious.)
oh and if i sound like a grump, i apologise again.
i just want to know....[:(]
Our beliefs differ in some ways. You see karma as a way of saying that the universe is getting revenge, but that is not how it works as I learned it. In my religion, it means that there are causes and effects so if you want good effects it is necessary to create good causes. As an example, my religion teaches that all we have now is a result of having given in the past. As for reincarnation, my religion does not say that we are aware of all of our lives between lives. It is more of a continuation of this life just as dreams are. Then there is the matter of being an individual for eternity. In Buddhism this is declared impossible. Also, you believe in God but I do not. That at least covers some of the main points about which we do not agree.
What we do agree on is that there is more to existence than what appears to us physically through the senses. A few dollars in the bank, a house full of possessions, family and friends, a good job, and so on cannot provide lasting satisfaction even in one life. Endless repetition of these same things for eternity sounds terrible. Even worse, lacking those things and wanting them. We both agree that what matters more than possessions or lack of them is the person who has the ability to own things.
Taking another guess at what you mean by meaninglessness ... could it be a variety of non-existence?
meaninlessness... like, one more grain of sand added to a beach is meaninless. it doesnt matter, because there are so many other greains of sand along with it. whatever happened when you were two days old is meaningless to you now, because you cant remember it, and it is in the past. the concept of god is meaningless to you, because you dont believe in it. basically, if it doesnt matter, its meaningless.
so, like, even if each life is uniques, there will be SO MANY of them, we wont be able to think or care about them all, making them... meaningless. it would no longer matter if you gave a dollar to that poor guy on the bus, becase hes lived so many lives, its meaningless to him too....
and i dont believe in the cause or effect thing, either... (oops! another dont! dont be mad!)
[xx(]
or will it? will it ever be boring, will we still find things to do for eternity, and will our lives still matter in the meantime?
we're talking FOREVER here. never ending. seems pretty impossible that we would never run out of things to do... no matter how long it takes. and the longer it takes, the farther this life as Tia and Tom get pushed into the past. the more insignificant they become.
So the grains of sand on the beach are not connected to each other in any way? Everything and everyone is completely disconnected and unable to influence anything or anyone? A dollar, a quarter, a bus, a bus stop, and everything else is alone?
So how did you reach your beliefs and do you change them as you learn new things?
not unconnected, its just that.... i cant explain. i do change my beliefes, but, im sorry, if you want me to change to your beliefs....
My beliefs have changed many times both from study and experience. When I say I believe something specific it is because I have had experiences which support them. Until then I say it is an idea I am considering. Some things are harder to establish than others, such as what it is like between lives. Others are fortunately easier. We have very different beliefs and I believe this is because we have had different experiences. Now I am asking how you reached the beliefs which you have described.
well, my expirience, what i feel makes sense, alittle bit of what others say that sounds logical, a little bit of stuff that i just kinda made up that sounds logical, and some scientific stuff, i guess. i do change my beliefs, but believe it or not, i believe alot of things-no, wait- KNOW alot of things. i just kinda add new beliefs on to my old ones, but if i ever saw a need to, id change them. but its not like they change all the time. i havened heard or seen anything that really challenges any of my true beliefs, the core of my beliefs, so i haven't changed them. [8)]
no offense, but what does this have to do with my question? i'm still in the middle of my crisis, ya know.[;)]
The idea of God just freaks me out physically. I have a gut reaction to the idea. There was a time when I thought that people who believe in God were brain-dead creatures who somehow managed to cross streets without getting hit by traffic. The idea of God will always disturb me unless I can track down the reason why that is. As to the other thing, I chose to get more information before drawing such severe conclusions. Over time I have caused the idea of a God to disturb me less by challenging beliefs about God.
How did you conclude that between lives people know all of their lives and must deal with an infinity of time, making individual lives meaningless?
why exactly does that matter to you? when are people gonna answer my question? why do i need to answer yours?
I am still trying to determine what you are talking about.
as
Tia,
As a thought to your original question, no I don't think we would be bored doing the same thing over and over again because I don't think it is possible for us to be able to do the same thing. The reason? everything changes all the time. Every second that passes by marks a change in something somewhere.
To stick a bit of Quantum theory in here, consider that our universe is not just one universe, but a multiverse. A possibly infinite number of parallel universes where something somewhere is different to our own. You could finish living in one and be reincarnated in another, and things would be different. You'd never be able to repeat anything from a past life.
As to if our life ends up being meaningless or not - I could try to give you some deeply spiritual reason as to why I think this life will have great meaning when I pass on to the next.
I'm not going to though. Truth is I really don't give a toss!
I'm happy living this life now. I'm curious about what is beyond the physical world, and I believe there is some purpose for me both here and now, and there and then. For this reason I am taking steps now to learn what I can, and develop any psychic potential I might have that could be of use.
Beyond that, I have no real idea what is going to happen, and don't particularly care. I have been very happy letting what I believe is destiny or fate carry me along where it will. I do a little bit of stearing from time to time, but otherwise just go with the current.
I learned some years ago not to clutter my mind with what might be. It only serves as a distraction from the things that are important in your life now, and more often than not leads to worrying or depression. NOTHING about the future is carved in stone. Do what you believe is right for you to do now and get as much happiness out of it as you can. That way you can at least look back at your life with happy thoughts and fond memories, and that is far from being meaningless.
Besides, if it really does end up all being meaningless, then your not going to care about it anyway, so why bother giving it so much thought now?
James.
A friend of mine had an interesting theory about the universe that kinda relates to this, so I'm gonna post it.
He told me one day his theory based on the Big Bang. I wish i could draw this but I cant. Basically, he said that the big bang was a singularity collapsing. This was the end of the universe, so the beginning of another. When the Big Bang erupted, it generated hundreds of galaxies and pushed them all out into the universe it had created. The halaxies work like a rubber band. Depending on the velocity they were shot out from the explosion at, they would go farther. But, when they reached a spot too far from the origin (the faster it moves, the farther the spot), the would begin to return to the center of it all. All of the galaxies would collide at the same time, thus reforming the roots for the explosion. When the Big Bang erupted again, the galaxies would be fresh. Nothing about them would be the same, because the galaxies merged inside the singularity in the center of it all. This is his theory of the Ice Age and the Dinosaurs' extinction. He beleives that these worlds simply moved into another galaxy, or that the other world came to ours in the middle. They ended because the universe collapsed again, and began due to the explosion.
Did you get all that? Kinda confusing....but think about it. This guy's only 16 >.< That's some pure genius thinking right there.
Wow. I posted in Integral Philosophy! What is going on here? Hehe.
~Squeek
quote:
Originally posted by Squeek
Did you get all that? Kinda confusing....but think about it. This guy's only 16 >.< That's some pure genius thinking right there.
That's pretty impressive for a 16 year old. There have been some phycists who have addressed this particular problem, no less than Stephen Hawking himself. So it's not a trivial problem easily dismissed. But Hawking and Penrose got together and did a paper on this very theory and basically proved mathematically that if the universe did get enough energy to contract, it would end in a thump, not a bounce.
But like I said, that's impressive for a kid of 16.
quote:
Originally posted by Tom
The idea of God just freaks me out physically. I have a gut reaction to the idea. There was a time when I thought that people who believe in God were brain-dead creatures who somehow managed to cross streets without getting hit by traffic. The idea of God will always disturb me unless I can track down the reason why that is.
Humm, interesting. Why do you think you react this way? I'm sincerly very curious.
There was a time I thought like you : religious people, specifically christians are brain dead and when asked a question of "Why...?" I could never get an answer.
Yet now I've been exposed to a whole new world in the area of philosophy. I was way shortchanged when people either couldn't or wouldn't answer my questions because some of the greatest thinkers the world has ever known were religious and specifically christians. I think of Blaise Pascal the father of the modern computer. Thomas Acquinas, Newton, Agustine, CS Lewis, and more recently I've discovered probably one of the greatest writers of the 19th century GK Chesterton. The line is long of great thinkers who didn't take anything on "faith" but thought about issues and actually wrestled with the idea of God, good and evil, and the human plight.
quote:
Originally posted by James S
To stick a bit of Quantum theory in here, consider that our universe is not just one universe, but a multiverse. A possibly infinite number of parallel universes where something somewhere is different to our own.
Hi, maybe you could elaborate a little on this for me? How does quantum theory support the idea of a multiverse?
The problem is that I do not know the reason for my reaction. It could be just that God, the Easter bunny, and Santa Claus were are given to me as equally real. That would put an adult who believes in God in the same category as one who still believed in Santa Claus. What helped most was the understanding that most people who say they believe in God do not appear to actually believe in God, based on observation of what they say and do.
quote:
Originally posted by MJ-12
Your questions are assuming that creation is static and not continually evolving and changing. Also, I find the way you come on here demanding answers from people, and not only that, but answers that instantly satisfy you and your belief system, very selfish. Find your own answers then.
im sorry you feel that way, but in another perspective, keeping your opinions and answers to yourself is selfish too. and, your assuming that im assuming blah blah blah, and you dont even know me.
quote:
Originally posted by Tom
The problem is that I do not know the reason for my reaction. It could be just that God, the Easter bunny, and Santa Claus were are given to me as equally real. That would put an adult who believes in God in the same category as one who still believed in Santa Claus.
But you do believe in spirit(ual) things?
quote:
What helped most was the understanding that most people who say they believe in God do not appear to actually believe in God, based on observation of what they say and do.
Ahh, I agree with you here. That was one of the reasons I stepped out of the church as a teen.
quote:
Originally posted by Spirit_Gurl
won't this life we're living now be lost among everything else?
my point is, will our souls ever feel like this? bored?
wont we someday, somewhere, have expirienced all there is to expirience? lived in all the life forms possible to this and anyother universes, known and unknown? we have eternity. it might take a while, but it would eventually happen.
then what'll we do?
Well I guess we could always have another Big Bang and start a whole new type of universe with totally different laws of physics and matter so we are once again challenged to the hilt----
making our lives here in this world meaningless.
[xx(]
thanks for being so polite, by the way timeles! [:D]
you have a great day too!
[8D]
nonono! i was serious! i knew you were joking!
but i mean, if all theses big bangs keep recreating, then wont this life on earth be pushed further and further back.......become meaninglkess? forgotten?
sorry you thought i thought you were rude...[:I]
I celebrate passover. [:P]
but...... what happens after everything else? it just....doesnt... make... sense...
[xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(]
The fact that it doesn't really make sense is probably because you are struggleing to understand an infinite concept with a finite mind, or more to the point a finite and fixed perspective.
If you were in a position to be able to take in the entirety of time-space at any given moment, you would probably understand a great deal more about what you are asking, and what the answer might be.
As it is, we are all in the same situation. None of us are able to provide a more complete answer, as we are all limited in our perception. At best we can only give guesses or opinions.
James.
It's 11:30pm and i'm not reading this whole thread so i'll just reply to the original post. I'm sure what i say will have been covered already, but ah well.
I base my ideas on my few beliefs. I believe we have a spirit and i believe we can do wonderful things with our spirit. Perhaps one day i can reach a state where my spirit will leave my body forever, in circumstances different to death. I don't know where i'll go, but i do think it is possible to go there. Maybe it will be an actual physical existence, maybe i'll become a shadow, a cloud, a tree, but i do think that whatever i become, or wherever i go, i'll be happy and i'll be at peace. Maybe i won't even think, but no thought would be a wonderful thing. Of course i hold no belief in this, it's an idealistic view. Perhaps i'll actually go to Heaven or Hell.
Or perhaps, as you say i will keep reincarnating forever.
My point is the only time i see this thought of never-ending time becoming a problem is if when you reincarnate (if that's possible) you remember your other lives and realise you are actually just living throughout time in different bodies.
Thinking about this all has confused me though, so what i just said probably makes no sense. I think it's not worth trying to answer the questions like these though. I think the best thing to do is to just live, explore, seek answers to complex questions practically instead of through words where it is impossible to come to any sort of conclusion. I have confused myself even more as i have been typing this, so i'm going to stop now. [:P]
Hi there Spirit Gurl.
You are in a spiritual crisis...and because of this, no one is going to be able to GIVE you the answers you're looking for. I think the answers are inside you, and it's up to you to find them. I think everyone has felt, at some point in their lives, the same way you feel. I thinks it's good to feel that way. That may seem like a twisted comment, but to overcome that feeling, and find your answers, or at the very least, to find the path to your answers...... Well, I belive that must be the most beautiful feeling in the world. The exact opposite of the hopelessness you're feeling now. And so...no one can tell you what is right. When you are ready, you'll KNOW what is right. You'll feel it, and it may feel like you've always known it.
Life is a journey, it's up to you to design it and complete it. You're only going to get out of it what you expect to get out of it, both physically and spritually. I wish you the best of luck.
You're right timeless, i did say that, but i must have been confuesd because that's not what i meant. What i meant is that i don't think it's worth trying to answer questions like these in writing or by just sitting around thinking about it. It's good to discuss the question, but not try and answer it. I absolutely think people should try and answer the question, but i don't see how trying to answer it in writing or simple thought without experience is going to help.
Discussing it is a great thing to do though. That way people can exercise their beliefs and ideas and hopefully, resolve any issues they had when asking the question, if any.
I probably wasn't clear in my last post since it was around 1:00am when i wrote it, not to mention the subject at hand is a baffling one to me [:P]
The more I think about this question, and think about Spirit_Gurl's need for deeper understanding of this puzzle, the more I think that I really haven't got a clue!
I've always thought of myself as someone who can grasp some pretty complex stuff. Ask me something about quantum theories, cosmic string theory or early galaxy formation, time-space relationships or subspace / superspace concepts. I'll give you an answer. The answers to Spirit_Gurl's questions however have me completely stuck! I do feel through they belong in the realm of belief systems. There are no theories here, only ideas and opinions. From them we can possibly extract something that feels right to us, but there are no conclusive answers.
Tia,
I'm sorry if this sounds like a dumb question, but are you simply curious about the idea that we've possibly been here and done this all before, and what could be the meaning of all we do, or is there something deeper, something behind all of this that your looking for that is really important to you?
Thinking hard....
James.
As part of another thread I found an answer: fractals. A small simple pattern is repeated and expanded. The result keeps getting more interesting, not less, and greater than the sum of its parts. Lives are like fractals and no individual life is meaningless. They are all essential to the pattern. Either we look very close at a single life or step back to see an overall pattern.
james, im not just curious. i need to know.
Fair enough Tia, I don't see anything wrong at all in that.
Having thought about it though, I honestly have to say I don't know what the answer is, or even if there is an answer.
One idea does come to mind - Robert Bruce has spoken of his kundalini experience, where the culmination of kundalini meditation brought him to a place where his consciousness was at a higher level, where far more knowledge of the universe was available to him.
For an idea of what kundalini is, have a look through this post:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1016&whichpage=2&SearchTerms=kundalini%2CKundalini
Look for Robert Bruce's post.
This is apparently not an exercise to be taken lightly, as it has potentially bad side effects, and can take a lot of time and effort to achieve, but it might be a way of finding for yourself the answers you seek that are beyond our understanding.
As a personal view on your subject, in brief, I don't believe we are caught in endless repetition of our existence, and we have a choice as to what we do and where we go when we are not inside our physical bodies. I don't believe our lives, in any of our incarnations are meaningless, as like here on earth, I carry knowledge and memories that are precious to me. I believe that the astral planes, where our souls reside when not in a host body, are separate from the physical universe we exist in, and therefore not subject to the birth or death of the universe.
I can't say anymore than that without a more specific question, and I sometimes feel that knowing the right question to ask is as difficult as finding the answer.
Don't stop looking or asking Tia. Your inquisitive mind will open you up to more possibilities that you can dream of. Don't be frustrated though, because on the way to finding the answers to the big questions, you will learn so much more than if you never wondered.
James.
a question- can you be bored yet happy at the same time?
if there's a question, there's an answer.
That depends entirely on how you interpret boredom.
In terms of the concise meaning of the word, as you would find in a dictionary - no. The state of boredom is a negative feeling. Boredom typically comes about as a form of frustration from doing something tedious.
Happy boredom could be called contentment.
James.
Spirit Gurl,
What do you do for fun? Where are your friends? Do you go to church? Do you love your parents? Do you spend time with your family or extended family very often? Do you ever go for walks? Have you ever done any spontaneous action that has resulted in you being happy? Im bored at times so i get up and, if nothing else, talk with my grandpa, best friend, take a walk and smell the roses, SLEEP, or do something completely spontaneous just becuase i felt like it. Life is full of empty time where you can substitute enjoyable activites. You could try going to church or reading the Bible. The point im getting at is you need to just look around you with a more positivie attitude to see what you want to see and become aware of the answers you want. Also, answers dont come right away, thats for sure. Sometimes you never truely understand the things you want to know until your too old, or its too late. Just keep your chin up and live life day by day appreciating the fact that you_are_alive and you have the opportunity to experience these things. Dont take it for granted or you will regret it.
Against my better judgement, and the fact I don't need my head ripped-off and paraded around for all to see......
Sprirtgurl, why don't you stop worrying sooooo much on your never ending boring life and death... and live for the moment..
And frankly, I think you just love to hear yourself talk, but I must admit you do it well with all those big words and the deep subject matters......OH MY GOD, I just had an epiphany!!!
You should take drama class!! I am serious too, not sarcastic...You have alot of emotions going on in your growing body and I think it would be a great outlet for you to explore those realms....what cha think?? What are the chances you were an actor in your other boring lives?....hmmmmmmm, I think I just opened another can of worms...I am OUTTA HERE.....
Nay.....
May the reaming of my butt commence...[xx(]
remember, i have the uncanny ability to sound more upset online than I do in real life.
that said....
Do you think that living here would ever get boreing? that after millions and billions and trillions of years of centuries of living , we will have just done everything? I mean, by then this life will just be another worthless distant memory among other thousands of distant lives and memories. or will it?
Will we keep reincarnating forever? I dont believe we will ever become one with god, so what else will happen? our souls just kinda sittin around not doing anything forever and ever and ever and ever....
or will we keep reincarnating? forever and ever and ever and ever....
won't this life we're living now be lost among everything else?
would it be better to live a worthless existence, then die and become a worthless, bored soul? or be better to cease to exist completely? would it ever come to the point where our souls would want to choose the latter? I mean, our soul's lives have NO END. maybe a beggining, but there is no middle. a google years (a one with 100 zeros after it) will just be another wink of time. another big chunk of life that will be lost forever.
my point is, will our souls ever feel like this? bored?
wont we someday, somewhere, have expirienced all there is to expirience? lived in all the life forms possible to this and anyother universes, known and unknown? we have eternity. it might take a while, but it would eventually happen.
our lives as Tia and enderwiggin and James and Tom, etc... will seem meaningless mixed in with everything else.
then what'll we do?