the impact of spirituality and new-ageism on me

[jilola]

Rodentmouse:
I'd advice against believing everything regarding metaphysics. There's a lot of good and enormous amounts of hogwash. Believe what strikes tru to you regardless of how prominent the writer may be. But I guess I'm preaching the choir here. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

Well, the system isn't the goal of humanity's spiritual path but it is a necessary stage to pass through. We need to get the materialistic crud out of our souls in order to get serious with the real work of developing as a species and as individuals.
Having a job can be a hindrance but as long as you realize that it isn't the important bit, just the necessary one.

I know what you mean by the enigma. Just recently I had a conversation with an acquaintance and was asked to explain what I believe in. Couldn't do it. I KNOW what I believe I just can't put it into words easily and even if I could I'm not sure they would convey the truth of it or mean anything to someone else.

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jouni

[Tisha]

If you hit the metaphysical section of your local bookstore, you will find what many practicioners call "Witchcrap."  A funny term for the recent explosion of metaphysical literature that is mostly regurgitated opinion, badly researched, and prettily packaged.  Avoid it.  Depending on your philosophical/religious bent, you can probably get a decent book list from a long-time practitioner of the practice you are most interested in .  That way, you can avoid wasting your time on Witchcrap.

By the way, Astral Dynamics is a great book  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_big.gif" border=0>

As for the job . . . yes, the eternal struggle (it seems).  Actually, the struggle is based upon bad presumptions, one of which is that you have to sacrifice your spirituality to make a living.  Another bad presumption is that money is not spiritual.  Yet ANOTHER bad presumtion is that you must leave or reject your "ordinary" life and go somewhere else to be spiritual. There are all sorts of lies out there  . . . it took me 15 years to wake up and smell the coffee.

I like the works of Carlos Casteneda and his friends.  I just bought his last two books last night.  I also bought a book of poems written by a 13th century Sufi mystic, Rumi.  

My other interests have to do with ancient Celtic spiritiual practices.  There are more BAD books about this topic than there are good ones.

later,


Tisha

"As Above, So Below"

[Windameir]

Tisha
I had read Carlos Castenedas books probably about 15 years ago what are the last books you are refering too I haven't looked for his work in many years the last books I read I think werr  the Eagles Gift and the Fire from Within. I would be greatly interested to know if he has written more.

Thanks
Happy Travels
Windameir

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[Jeff_Mash]

quote:Originally posted by Windameir:
Tisha
I had read Carlos Castenedas books probably about 15 years ago what are the last books you are refering too I haven't looked for his work in many years the last books I read I think werr  the Eagles Gift and the Fire from Within. I would be greatly interested to know if he has written more.

I never read any of Carlos' books, mainly because I didn't know if it would be too "out there" for me, you know?  Plus, didn't he get a lot of his astral experiences from some sort of drug?  Forgive me if I'm wrong, because again, I have never read his material.

The last two books I bought this week were:

1) Working With Your Chakras by Ruth White
2) Genesis Revisted by Zecheria Sitchin




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[Tisha]

I believe Carlos Casteneda's last books were "The Art of Dreaming" and "The Active Side of Infinity."

And noooo . . . they are not about drugs at all.  In his first book he described some experiences with mood/brain altering plants (part of the ancient tradition of his teacher) but his later books don't get into that at all.  They are all about perception, expanding the mind, losing fear . . . working with dreams, OBEs, shapeshifting, bending time . . . the whole gamut of otherworldy "sorcerer" experiences.  I find the books very interesting, as they are told from the perspectives of bewildered students trying to make it in the sorcerer's world.  There are so many snippets of wisdom in these books, I want to copy them down and tape them all over the walls in my house.

Carlos' students:   Taisha Abelar, Florinda Donner . . . women who have also written good books about their experiences.


Tisha

"As Above, So Below"

[rodentmouse]

hello to the people

getting into the metaphysical  has completely changed me.  I have been reading as much metaphysical books as i can and im starting to agree with everything they say,  and this is what ive always thought about my whole life but have never found the avenue in which to explore and expand my innate  need for exploration.    

I think the real me, or who i was meant to be is sprouting ever since i got into it because for the first time, when i talk about the issues of spirituality i am FEELING that what i say is coming from me,  not repeated to appear cool or intelligent,  now looking back on who i have been all my life i hate it because i know i have never been true to myself.

Now i have a job,  but it gets to me that i am perpetuating a system which i dont think is the path of evolution for humans  but i have no choice.......and having NO CHOICE isnt a nice thing at all.

i have a lot of things  to say but im having real trouble wording them because  (excuse the enigma) i know what i believe but i dont know what i beleive, but i FEEL this spiritual path will answer them for me.

I just had to say what im thinking about right now,  nothing and noone in my life gets what i mean.  
(apart from this forum)