Simplex& complex god or Spy vs Spy revisited

[warlockyoshi]

Wait tic are you saying that we create our visual surrounings?  Like the wind fish in Link's awakening or the grays in dreamcatcher.  I'm sorry I think that I failed to grasp the point can you can you put it in lamen terms for me?

[Risu no Kairu]

That game is so sad, Warlockyoshi!

I make friends with everyone, they're enjoying their lives, then the badguys are like "Why do you... fight..? If he wakes up, we'll all cease to exist. Is that what you want?"

Then you wake him up and everyone fades away...

[jilola]

Along those lines.
The way we perceive the nonphysical reality is individual to us. But the way those perceptions interact cause us to see the physical as it is. That accounts for the simmilarity and strangth of the physical as one individuals perception is only a minute part and can normally only have a minor effect on the whole.

I may be way off the base here, but it's an interesting thought.

2cents & L&L
jouni

[warlockyoshi]

That is kinda like the theoriy that we all have our own god.  If that were true then the god would have to be a topa ar some other creation of the mind.  So does that mean that if you fought and defeated your own god you become a god?

[jilola]

Ah I see the misunderstanding of what I wrote.
We are not god as individuals but as the sum total of all existing entities, you, me, them, birds, rocks, and the umbrella.
That's what I meant by the complex. The fact that everything has a certain level of awareness of the spiritual existence and thid perception is projected as that individual entity's perception of its surroundings is interferenced by every other entity's perception is what creates the physical. So I personally don't create the physical reality, only one small component pattern of it.
It's only when every perception is summed together that we get the physical reality we perceive.

2cents & L&L
jouni

[jilola]

Timeless: Yes. And your theory is in agreement with the idea I presented in the first post of the thread.
One person cannot make much of an impresion of the general reality unless the change is in some way in harmony with the potential interference pattern of the consensus or if that person has a large number of other people affecting the interference in a similar way thus amplifying each other. Think of waves either getting bigger or cancelling out, or one big huge wave that tramples the smaller ones.
The result is localized but can range from a complete calm to a horrible cross wave impossible to navigate safely.
In that analogy we are the waves and the water is the spiritual realm we perceive and the waves our perception of the spiritual. The pattern of the waves if the physical reality we perceive and affect to some degree.

2cents & L&L
jouni

[jilola]

A thought that occured to me for you to tear apart.

I read recently a couple of articles that trashed, and with good logic, the idea that we create our own physical realities.
This makes sense since we all share a great majority of traits in the physical.
But...
Suppose what I believe is true and the One (again God, Allah, GSITS, wossname) hit a wall in tryig to understand individuality and its varying expressions and created us souls to learn and bring back the scoop on indivual and separateness.
Suppose further that each souls projects its perception of th espiritual reality and that projection manifests itself as the unique physical reality of that soul when it's separate.
Now given that there are a multitude of souls. Is it possible that that projected physical realities create an interference pattern that us souls on the physical actually percieve as the consensus physical reality?
This would allow for the fact that in the astral we can have and experience any reality we choose since onthe astral we have direct access to our projection of the spiritual reality.
It also allows for the anomalies some people are reported to be able to create since this individuals projected reality is strong enough to sway the local interference pattern.

What I'm hinting at is that the simplex One or god created us to be the complex god that creates as a result of our projected spiritual realities interference. Neatly illustrates "And God created Man as his own image" and similar hints in religious literature.

Comments? Rebuttals? Money my way?

2cents & L&L
jouni