hey, how do i get the negs who follow me around and do nothing all day to become more active and latch onto one of my enemies?
You don't.
It would be a very good idea for you to look into the Law of Attraction.
It's another way of looking at "you reap what you sew".
excuse me for returning pain to people who deserve it.
Thats a little subjective and biased don't you think. Do you honestly think you desereve to wield that kind of power? Also, isnt it rather juvenile and immature, to wish something as a neg attack on your enemies? Anything that can be achieved through the usage of negative means can be achieved through positive ones with more effort, yet far more lasting and beneficial results. There are far more effective and positive ways in dealing with a problem than that...
I agree with Jela67.
There's a great deal of positive power that comes from blessing your enemies, not the least of which is what James S mentioned with the law of attraction. DH
blessings do nothing. im sick of thinking positively and being loving. it gets me no where and im tired of people becoming stronger off of my pain.
Quote from: erynys on April 19, 2007, 15:55:53
blessings do nothing. im sick of thinking positively and being loving. it gets me no where and im tired of people becoming stronger off of my pain.
I haven't seen that side of you yet.
Maybe you should be the one getting stronger off your pain. No one said you had to be positive or loving, but tolerant at the least. Perhaps you should consider other means to your end, perhaps you need to transcend them. People who cause us pain exist so we can learn how to overcome it. There is nothing more to say about it, all you are going to do is probably have the negs overpower you and latch onto you. If you honestly think you can use something that has a free will to attack another thing that hass free will as well, you are going to have a swift lesson taught to you. Our external conflicrs are mearly the manifestations of our internal ones, and perhaps that is where you should focus your energy.
Quote from: erynys on April 19, 2007, 15:55:53
blessings do nothing. im sick of thinking positively and being loving. it gets me no where and im tired of people becoming stronger off of my pain.
Erynys,
I can feel the pain flowing from your posts. I don't know what you've been through to feel that way, but I can relate to the feeling of anger from people drawing energy from my pain.
I see from your profile that you are 15. It's been awhile, but I can remember being 15. I also remember that for the most part, it sucked. I felt seriously rejected by some peers and manipulated by adults who should have been helping me.
The only way I've gotten through the crap is to learn how to control my thoughts. I wish somebody would have told me that back then. It's taken me 30-plus years to figure it out. You
do create your reality by what you hold in your thoughts and brand into your soul. Your hate and pain will only generate more of the same.
You can start working now on positive change through thought contol. I suggest that you get a hold of a copy of
The Secret DVD and watch it once a day for 30 days. Concentrate on what you see and hear and let it soak in. It will change your life.
You have my prayers for blessing. Blessings DO work.
DH :-)
excuse me, ive just been off balance lately. my mind is completely subjected to my emotions.
erynys,
i think DH has given you some good advise. im sorry that things are difficult for you at the moment.
in buddhism they say that you cannot change other people, but you can change how you react to them. take the pain you feel and isolate it. speak to it, and ask it why you are experiencing it.
is it because of the way others are making you feel?
alot of suffering comes from caring what other people thnk of us, and analysing ourselves in relation to how other people percieve us.
you are the person you know you are- in your heart- not what people say you are, or what they perceive you to be.
when you fully embrace this knowledge, it takes the emotional intensity out of being misunderstood. REMEMBER that you are a very special person. there is a self love that comes from the heart, not the ego, and once you connect with this, it will create a cocoon for you, that will protect you through the hard times.
if its any consolation, i find that life gets better as you get older!
if you are on a path of self discovery and learning, and are open to changing and developing, age will give you increased awareness into yourself, and with that, love and forgiveness for yourself (and then for others) will follow.
it sounds like such a basic thing to say, and yet, so few people really Love themselves.
in fact, alot of people secretly hate themselves.
the way people perceive others, is a reflection on how they perceive themselves.
the way people treat others, is an indication of how they treat themselves.
teenagers are energy vortexes. what youre experiencing, is other people taking your energy, becuase they are not aware that there is another way for them to feel good about themselves. its the way we've been condiitoned.
i know this may not be a consolation to you, because youre in this situation now. but this is Not your life. it is only the beginning, and the pain you experience as a teenager can make you a more complete person in the future, or, if you carry the resentment forward, will damage you. i was bullied alot growing up, and sometimes i can still revisit that pain. but it has remained fairly pure- it has not festered into bitterness. im glad for everything that happened to me, because through it i discovered an inner strength, wisdom, and compassion that i never knew i had.
peace brother~ i am sending you love through the air waves- feel it!
vl
Don't allow yourself become consumed by the forces of the Dark.
It will only lead towards temporary satisification on the Physical Plane,
Mostly all negative or selfish Spirits, Entities and especially Forces of the Dark require something in return.
Never use a Spirit, or Entity to due your Dirty Work.
I ask you to seek Positive alternative means to all your problems.
I'm only 18 years of age, I remember being 15 like it was yesterday.
Keep looking forward and seek making a direct connection to the Divine or Yahweh (God).
Ask your Spirit Guides for Guidance, and to provide you with Knowledge, Wisdom and Understanding about your
purpose and your surroundings and you will begin to piece of the puzzle yourself.
Life on the Physical Plane is merely a temporary existance and a temporary reality so we may come to learn and
experience new things. No matter how bad things get, remember it is merely one experience, and in time things will
move on and positive ones are in store as well.
my spirit guides dont talk to me. ive asked for them to meet in dreams countless times, and ive done other things. i even used a oui-ja board. all it did was give its name, wander around the board, and then leave.
That doesn't mean you Spirit Guides aren't talking to you. The thing is that it is a two-way relationship. You have asked your guides to open to you, but how much have you really done to open yourself to them? If you are ruled by your emotions, you are not in a state to accept the subtle energies that they will communicate through.
Bloodsong
There is work to be done by yourself,
and by the state of your current condition it seems like there is alot of work to be done.
You are overcome by so many emotions you are merely creating blockages within yourself.
Cleanse yourself and open yourself to communication and
I guarantee your Spirit Guides will make themselves present.
ugh. any advice on how to cleanse myself? i see a therapist. it isnt working. and i refuse to get back on antidepressants. its evil. bad happy pills. and i have many unresolved issues that still bother me, that i cant fix. i dont know what to do.
Start practicing things such as Meditation and Energy work, Not only will you open yourself to the Energy of the Universe and the Divine that will fill you with Positive and Loving Energy but you will begin to feel better yourself. And we all know 'Like attracts like', It's a matter of just changing your mentality and things will begin to change around you.
Hope this is able to help you, Everyones journey is individual so I'm not going to tell you steps on how to meditate, or what visualization you should use, do your homework and do what you feel most comfortable with.
i cant meditate, or attract good energy. the negative is stronger than the positive in me, and it controls my mind.
ok. ill try. i really want to let it go. i really do.
Try a regemin of ritual. Start with the LBRP and the Middle Pillar ritual. These are meant to help you realize yourself as the center of creation and the creator, all at the same time. Once that balance is struck, how can you be depressed?
Bloodsong
yay. never thought all the small stuff was so necessary.
It's not small stuff at all. I am beginning to practice Kabbalah myself, compared to my regular Energy work and other practices I have found The Light of God in Kabbalah is so much more powerful and energy so much more refined.
cool. im so confused about separation of energy. because, to me, everything is the same, and connected. im waiting for this concept to sink into my subconscious.
Everything is connected, the question is how. Are you sure you understand the connectedness of everything? If everything is connected, then so are your feelings to the people you wanted to enact that "justice" on and your feelings for everything else, including yourself. Not to mention that your actions are always more connected to you than anything else, so to wish harm on others must expend energy harming yourself first.
Work on your inner balance, and things will change. The best thing for that is the Middle Pillar. If you don't know what it is and what it does, I would highly recommend Israel Regardie's The Art of True Healing. I think it is available as an e-book, if not, it is rather cheap through Amazon.com
Bloodsong
i just got healed today. by principle. i feel great. i havent had a bad thought since then. and ive been really hyper. ive been singing a lil bit better cause i have better pitch, and i no longer choke when i try to take really big breathes. my energy is flowing so quickly and freely in my body. and when i feel my chakras, they're really healthy. its so great. there's not a demon in my house. btw, if you say their name or mention them, it attracts their attention, so i will only mention them once, and thats on this post. anyways, i can feel my energy burning so brightly in me and i feel so positive and good. :) its so wonderful. thanks to principle for being so awesome. :) i will try that pillar thing. and i dont think ill need the LBRP. i can do my own magick. it seems to work better when i follow my instincts, which have become a lot stronger lately. :) toodles.
You're taking that "pretend" thing to the fullest extent, eh? (http://clicksmilies.com/s1106/aktion/action-smiley-002.gif)
what pretend thing? :| :\ :?
...Ummm..this..pretend...thing..... "im not really THAT psychic. i just like to pretend that i am. :) "
Talanay, I think you should give him a break. I'm only seventeen, and I remember all the things that happened to me at that age and how real they felt. He obviously has enough excrement going on in his life to have somebody creating doubt in his already troubled time, and especially now that he is feeling better, cut him some slack.
:) Didn't think I was breaking him.... I'm not sure what you mean about being seventeen and having feelings and whatnots... We all have that.. right? You don't see this whole thread as some big joke?....
um. hmmmmmm.....im 15....but yeah. no its not a joke. why are you so cynical? thats a little odd. anyways. good news, because of my increased energy flow, i have made progress in tk. i am now able to feel objects and their molecules. yay. its cool. cause i reached to my psiwheel, and i felt the paper, and the shape and everything. it was cool.
I'm cynical because this whole thing for two days has been nothing more than a joke, sorry. I'll be serious when it gets serious and people stop living in a fantasy.
Quote from: TalaNay on April 24, 2007, 06:23:48
I'm cynical because this whole thing for two days has been nothing more than a joke, sorry. I'll be serious when it gets serious and people stop living in a fantasy.
:-D everyones Living in a fantasy!
a world of their creation, ne pas?
lets make it peaceful.. by living through compassion...
and lets start here.
Sorry, I don't believe in feeding people's fantasies. It's best to not lie to oneself and or others. :)
ok, feeling the hate, processing the hate, rejecting the hate, trashing the hate, ok, its gone. :)
Quote from: TalaNay on April 24, 2007, 19:15:14
Sorry, I don't believe in feeding people's fantasies. It's best to not lie to oneself and or others. :)
how would you feel if someone told you that obeing was impossible... and that you were making up all your experiences... that they were a fantasy?
Quote from: violetlight on April 24, 2007, 19:36:18
how would you feel if someone told you that obeing was impossible... and that you were making up all your experiences... that they were a fantasy?
It wouldn't bother me one bit.
I am not making my comments in order to be mean, I'm being honest, from my point of view. I see someone describe experiences that seem to fit the description of someone partaking in drugs, Salvia to be exact. To me, it all played out like...well, just that, a play. Spider sacs, dark evil clouds and spirit guides that seem to be waiting in the wings for a consult.... I'm sorry but it all seemed too much like a story. My doubting the experiences should not take away from them...
Quote from: TalaNay on April 24, 2007, 20:13:18
a play. Spider sacs, dark evil clouds and spirit guides that seem to be waiting in the wings for a consult....
lol!
yes, and you are entitled to your opinion..
but, ultimately, it
is an
opinion.
i know youre not trying to be cruel...
but cynicism seems to drive wedges further between us...
it maintains the illusion that we are separate, and that each of us is right..
and it disconnects us from our natural empathy.
who cares is someone is pulling a fast one?
for the slight humiliation it might cause, knowing we've been 'had'-
those moments where our hearts opened to someone else's truth
and we felt a longing deep inside that
someone would know peace...
those moments reAwaken us to our True nature.. which is absolute... and the only True Truth there is.
peace~
violet
talanay, the images i see are exactly like the images others see. im just using different words to express how i view them. i know they're not spider sacs. ok. they're balls of energy. to me, they look like how a spider sac would if a spider sac was made of energy. i dont do drugs. ive never done drugs, and i dont drink anymore. im not on any medication and i dont create fantasy worlds for myself. it bothers me that you say these things merely because it is insulting and rude, not because i feel you are doubting my experiences.
I geuss in the end, its all subjective though...
Violet, I appreciate you thinking I need to change, but I'm comfortable with myself.. so, thanks, but no thanks. :)
eryn, you should not feel insulted if it what I say isn't true. Laugh and go forward with your life without another thought of me, regardless of my believing or not believing you. I still don't btw. but that is my issue. :)
im comfortable with you too.
its the world im not comfortable with.
it needs peace.
yet, it has to start somewhere.
i am prepared to take responsibility for what i contirbute to all we regard as 'hate' and 'fear'.
i think we all should.
but then, this is just my opinion :wink:
peace~
You're not going to make us hold hands and sing kumbaya now, are you? ;)
Quote from: TalaNay on April 25, 2007, 09:37:59
You're not going to make us hold hands and sing kumbaya now, are you? ;)
I
love kumbaya!
Can we sing it Nay? Aww, go on, go on, please... :-)
Sarah
:-D I'm singing but it just isn't the same without you being able to hear me... gives it a whole new level. :-D
i think everyone is over analyzing everything.
:-D
ku-mba..YA m' lord-
:wink:
well.. it starts somewhere!
but hey- what else are we constantly searching for?
peace~
Happiness and quiet.. blessed quiet. :-D
ie... peace?
inner and outer?
Hehe.. with three children, ANY kind of "peace" of quiet would be nice. :)
:-D
peace TalaNay~
blessed Be
xx
yah.......i really wish i could delete select posts.....i suggest that the topic starter gets the power to delete any posts he wish.
It's sad when wishes don't come true........
no...i think its called "life."
"For a long time it had seemed to me that life was about to begin -- real life. But there was always some obstacle in the way, something to be got through first, some unfinished business, time still to be served, a debt to be paid. Then life would begin. At last it dawned on me that these obstacles were my life."
-- Fr. Alfred D'Souza
Quote from: erynys on April 25, 2007, 22:39:51
yah.......i really wish i could delete select posts.....i suggest that the topic starter gets the power to delete any posts he wish.
i think that may be called censorship.
:lol:
You already have the greatest censor/moderator in this or any other forum. It is called ignore the annoying bastards, even if they do have the title of moderator or anything else.
Bloodsong
thanks. thats very true. its a bit hard because i am a very sensitive person. all my senses are a bit heightened. which is not really a gift or anything like on some comic book. it just makes me a but weak and easily hurt or annoyed. i am a very emotional person, so thats why its hard for me to rise above things like this. however, i will take your advice and i will try my best.
Nobody asks for more than trying. Being emotional is not weakness either, turn it around and use it as a strength...
Quote from: Jelal67 on April 30, 2007, 00:12:32
Nobody asks for more than trying. Being emotional is not weakness either, turn it around and use it as a strength...
I agree. Emotions reveal what's going on inside. We need to pay attention to them. If we are being blown away by emotions, it's time to trace them back to the sorry thought patterns that created them and make some changes.
DH
how DO you change thought patterns? like, i want to change a thought where the strings on a certain part of my song waver out of tune like a damaged record player as a result of my tampering with the pitch and enhanced tuning on that track.. ive done many things to fix it, but i think the fact that i expect it to mess up makes it stay that way. and there's no way i can get around it. and i also want to change my mindset about macro tk, i can do micro if i give my belief an extra push and take a chance, but i have such a solid belief against it, its very hard. please let me know what i can do. thanks.
It sounds like the aswer is simple. Your belief is false, and should be removed. when removed, you can turn yourself around.
how can i remove it.
Quote from: erynys on April 30, 2007, 21:36:21
how can i remove it.
By replacing it.
Belief systems aren't (or more to the point - shouldn't) be set in stone.
If you have beliefs that aren't serving you - that is, they're creating fears or doubts, then have a think about what these beliefs might be, then think about what the opposite 'positive' of that belief could be, then re-affirm that to yourself frequently.
For example, if you have a belief that chocolate cake makes you ill, that's how it will end up working in your life. Even if that sounds ridiculous, its our beliefs that create our realities, and it never fails.
Turn this belief around by affirming to yourself each day "chocolate cake is healthy for me...chocolate cake is healthy for me..." then that new belief will become the reality in your life and you will experience health instead of illness.
The more you tell yourself something, the more your subconscious will believe it, and the more it becomes your reality.
The subconscious doesn't know right from wrong. It just faithfully believes anything it's continuously told.
So we have a choice - we can continually tell our subconscious bad things or we can tell it good things.
Blessings,
James.
Careful with the chocolate cake allusions, there. I just lost those 30 lbs. I would like to keep them gone.
:-D
lol. for some things, i can do that. i will try harder cause i think i can do it.
I'd just like to say 2 things:
1. Ernys - You can do it!!!!! I'm keeping me fingers crossed for you and wish you the best...seriously :-D
2. To Ernys and all experiencing similar:
Don't give up exploring. Stay brave and kool. Looking back at myself when I was a teen I kind of regret that there was no internet, no forums where I could have freely shared my experiences. Lack of understanding created fear that eventually ate me up. Now at almost 29 I'm trying to get back to experiencing the similar sensitivity Ernys is describing. It's bloody difficult and I know I might have lost it for good. Oh well, so I guess that is what I chose. Thankfully there is a new generation of people on this planet, which seems bolder and wiser than my generation, and I'm absolutley fascinated by this phenomenon. It's really beautiful. So, young explores...keep your heads up high, speak your truth and have the courage to explore what the earlier generations couldn't.
All the best
lol. from a young explorer, you never lose it. ever. its just harder to get it back once your're an adult. but keep trying, because its there. definitely.