I must add, that all the secret services in the world, are happy that can prolong the tradition of the SS.
SS was the first military-magic-masonic order on the West!
before the second world war, all the power held secret socities-masons with the secret members, also wealthy Industrials
(not like former Bush, the father of an today ape,)
and the secret services were only the prolongation of an Army Inteligence, IAN FLEMING's "spies" that "spy" on "enemy".
that was before the second world war!
but the her Hitler invented MAGIC field in the WAR-PRACTISE,
he was realy an Inventor of hot water,
but in the modern history,
he managed,
out of magical Thula, to make his MAGICAL REICH in search for an MAGICAL ROOTS of the newest race,
and that has brought to "us"
THE SS, AN ORDER OF THE SORCERERS AND THE SPIES using every power available on the market, using THE MOST EFFICIANT ONE,
inside sciences and researchs of their own.
JUST LIKE CORPORATIONS BUILD, FROM THEIR OWN RESEARCH-LABORATORIES!
not "today sciences" of belief.
Using only true science. science of magic.
If you are willing to research "sciences",
first you must be objective,
second you must pay for an research(-scientists).
and the finance of today goes only to the LABS OF A CORPORATIONS.
there cannot be limited science that goes into an every direction of a material world, with no Synthesis.
just like the mathematical vectors, traveling in every direction completley independetley,
that is today 'science'.
sciences of belief.
on the other hand, there are corporations, that want a new technology to "sell"(that is so much better then the Reich!)
their products to the Users.(loosers)
they have a purpose, so they pay
to research what today science could never do.
because "the scientist of the humanity"(not corporations-technologists) have to believe, in what they research.
the purpose of this post is to elaborate there are many sciences,
and the formal One is the most useless,
and the corporative is the crulest.
only to sell-sell-sell.
what -human life?
and a story continous!
(in many directions.)
and it all begun with HITLERS TECHNOLOGY AND THE SS-POLICY!
"we" all live in a Nazi-technology world,
(Atomic era, airplane-motor, G-3(schmaisser),flying sorcer=repulsino,
research on humans as pats=Amerika 1960-untill today,
genetical Ingeniering that Nazis begun while researching on humans,
FROM ALL OF THIS-RESULTS CAN BE FELT TODAY, not then!
but not with a Nazis screaming : 'Sieg HEIL!'
but with a Users screaming : 'Sieg BUY!'
Rage Against the Maschine: "this time a bullet called rock-ya,
yellow ribbon instead of a swastika,
nothing proper about your propaganda,
fools droping bombs when you set commands-on
.."
are you aware of this?
Same old story, new words. The message, easy to tell harder to live.
The problem is Economy. - The math of limited resources. People want not what they need, but what they think they need, and that is what advertisement exists for.
Maya, illusion, is deep-rooted.
there are more Interesting directions of this topic, then marginalizing presentistic sadness.
the topic is : Esothreic SS, not: economy(boring!)
economy is under a strict control of American-Swiss bank society of hebrew David & Stein Reich, today, so move-on!
they control: film industries (film producers), Palestina oil and Children, diamond market, music, media and they finance the rest -what they like.
and what they like is the money and the users-who give them money.
and what they don't like are the blacks and the Arian, Indian and the poor, red and the brown.
-and they roots they hate the most!
"diamonds for flesh"
"money for racism".
"pay to the radical right!"
IS THAT WHY THE WHOLE WORLD TODAY IS ONLY ONE BIG MARKET?
ONLY SELL-SELL-SELL AND BUY-BUY-BUY?
and the Uthopia is the worst!
because they are "special":"they are the chosen people, BUY God!"
-Maja works for the other side, now![;)]
so, let's stick to the subject.
Hitler was esoterically inclined and practiced the dark arts. He even chose a ancient Hindy symbol for his flag, the flaring cross. He was looking for the arian race in India even sent an expedition there to search and was well trained and believer in the occult.
Rg
MS
("David & Stein Reich" returns no direct hits on Google.)
I still can not figure out what those people wanted with world-dominance. Who could possibly want the sum of the troubles of Earth on their hands?
And Utopia, by the way, is anarcho-socialist. Authoritarian capitalism is the dystopia.
what would they want-we ca only speculate.
they hate the human races, that is the true reason.
Earth wealth is not to through away.
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And Utopia, by the way, is anarcho-socialist. Authoritarian capitalism is the dystopia.
but of course! I ment Utopia as a hope and marginalizing form of Consciousness for the "humanity" and an Individual, not to be Aware of fact of global corporative assimilation all the time!
Knowing that
ONLY AN INDIVIDUAL CONSCIOUSNESS CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!
-but the life moves on!
that is not magic. lacrimae mundi is for the pesimistic sorcerors,
I just wanted to FIND A PURPOSE of Esotheric SS. Schutz Staffeln
I have also found, that America's private schools, are teaching rich kids today IN THE SAME MANNER AS Nazis did to Hitler Jugend!
IN EDUCATION,
Hitler have also set the standards and estabilshed a pattern!
OF ELITISTIC BEHAVIOUR:
"you are born leaders!"
"every One of you!"
"you will lead your country to prosperity!"
"we are proud of you!"
"the future lies on you!"
"tomorrow will come when the world is yours, tomorrow belongs to you."
but also, Hitler Kid-schools taught Mystics to "born leaders", and Arian roots! Runes etc, in schools.
but in SS-coledge there were more Interesting subjects!
Gurdjieff Metaphysics were also One of the chief-subjects in SS-coledge!
Blawatzkas Teosophy, Ariosophy and probabley Egyptian form of Mathematics, Mathematic structures,
Hollow Earth theory, and the FORCES OF ICE AND FIRE - Teuton Mysteries and Reich's Orgonne acumulator.
also Viktor Schauberger's flying sorcer-his IMPLOSIVE repulsino technology, WHICH JEWISH GLOBAL CORPORATIONS WILL NEVER RELEASE AS NAZI INVENTION!
OR THEIR OWN.
Himmler was interested in the occult and so he had an SS division called the "Annenerbe order". Thule is a different order, altough it was connected to the Annenerbe. The rich industrials you said were members of the Thule order and shared some of Hitler's ideas. Supposedly that was enough for them to give Hitler crucial support, including teaching him secrets of Oratory. Basically they told him how to make such incredible speeches.
The esotheric buddistic roots you're talking about is the Green Dragon Society, the most powerfull black buddist order. Himmler was one of the two westerners ever allowed membership into the order. Supposedly they shared some of the Nazi ideals.
This phenomenon is eternal. The Power-Structure will resort to ANYTHING - and I mean anything, from the occult, to brainwashing, to brute force - for the sake of "power-over." So you will have the SS/Nazis . . . but you also have just about every other "secret" masonic-style Order everywhere else in the world, from China to South America. Like magic, the techniques of world domination are universal.
You will find this phenomenon in EVERY SINGLE CULTURE that holds extreme masculinity, domination, and strength among its highest values. Which basically means, with the exception of a few small cooperative tribal cultures, the problem is GLOBAL. That is because most cooperative cultures are annihilated by the dominators!
But it is one thing to rage against the machine . . . and quite another thing to escape or transcend it. The things you do every day either feed this Machine, or starve it.
The way OUT is sneaky and subversive. Your rage AGAINST something only serves to feed it more.
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The esotheric buddistic roots you're talking about is the Green Dragon Society, the most powerfull black buddist order. Himmler was one of the two westerners ever allowed membership into the order. Supposedly they shared some of the Nazi ideals.
and where is the green dragon stationed today,-do they have schools in Europe? what ae they called?
are they not the secret government of China, or part of the Triad?
what is the purpose of the Green Dragon order?
who was the other guy? Heinrich was the first.
It's still in Japan. And no they don't have schools in Europe, they don't want to have anything to do with us. It's still called the Green Dragon society or the Green Dragon Order. They have also nothing to do with the Triads or other Mafia like organizations, however I read that there's one secret criminal society in Japan called the Black dragon society - similar name.
I don't know their purpose, just that they're not people to be messed with. I'll try to get you who was the other guy.
Try searching for Green dragon society on the Internet anyway.
I don't think it was a "black buddhist society" and infact I don't think there was such a thing. Implying that they are not people to be messed with, in other words they would wreck excrement on you -- how could they be buddhists then?
The Dalai Lama at the time was an admirer of hitler, did you know?
The Swastika is also not only a hindu symbol. It's the oldest symbol in the world basically and can be found in ancient greece, northern europe/scandinavia, ancient egypt, tibet, china, india, even in the americas the native americans used it.
"Aryan" means the teutonic indo-european race. I think everyone in europe apart from the arabs and jews are indo-european (but obviously not teutonic as these are the scandinavian/northern european people).
But I'm not sure if this is by indo-european language roots or race (but by race the teutonic is definatley indo-european despite other parts of europe). I think it might have been germanic groups which went into greece, spain and italy originally, and either arabs were already there and they mixed with the germanics or they came later, I don't know, but there are still some purely germanic people in these essentially non-aryan countries.
Yup, Hitler certainly f***ed things up. Providing new meanings to terms and symbols which people have long thought otherwise. Speaking of which, isn't there a current world leader doing the same?
Hint: Misunderestimated[:P][:P][:P]
He did really provide new meanings to symbols that meant something different.
The swastika, left-handed and spinning in a clock-wise direction is an invocation of energy and chaos and a representation of the sun and in its light-bearing powers, that's what it's always meant.
"Aryan" means the teutonic indo-european race. I think everyone in europe apart from the arabs and jews are indo-european (but obviously not teutonic as these are the scandinavian/northern european people).
But I'm not sure if this is by indo-european language roots or race (but by race the teutonic is definatley indo-european despite other parts of europe). I think it might have been germanic groups which went into greece, spain and italy originally, and either arabs were already there and they mixed with the germanics or they came later, I don't know, but there are still some purely germanic people in these essentially non-aryan countries.
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well actually europe might be mostly indo-european, but they are not all Aryan. Only the Germanic tribes are Aryan. They are descended from Mano (Tacitus Germanica)which is the Indo-Aryan Manu, first man, from which derives the word "man", sanskrit/hindi "Manushya"...
In India only some tribes are Aryan, most who claim to be Aryan are actually barbarians who were converts Huns, sakas, non-Aryan Persians.
It is wrong to say that Adam was the first man, Adam is the first earth person, created on earth.
Semites are the sons of Adam the Golem, (like pinocchio they came to life).
Indo-Aryans and Germanic tribes are sons of Manu the emperor and first king to rule over the entire earth. Aryans are more ancient than semites and more spiritually perfect.
Aryans are celestial and return to the celestial realms to their star ancestors, sons of Adam are earth bound and stay buried until the
Aryan king returns and resurrects those lazy people.
[:D]
What exactly is the difference between an aryan and an albine? well I guess you kinda can tell an albino when you see one but technically aren't all aryans sort of aline???
[:(!] What's the difference between an albine and an Aryan?
OH ARYAN IMPOSTER (and there have been many):
An Aryan is perfect and they are all descended from the self born body of light and do not need to hide from the sun who's God is one of their ancestors.
Albines are weak mutants. True Aryans are not allergic to the light of the sun, because they light up the world with their knowledge. The Indo Aryans are descended directly from the sun and moon and have the most illustrious spiritual lineage of all embodied earth beings. God likes us the mostest...nyah!nyah!nyah!
[:P]
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Albines are weak mutants. True Aryans are not allergic to the light of the sun, because they light up the world with their knowledge. The Indo Aryans are descended directly from the sun and moon and have the most illustrious spiritual lineage of all embodied earth beings. God likes us the mostest...nyah!nyah!nyah!
LOL thats a funny one, I just hope it was meant to be [:P]
But, some interesting info you have put forward with respect to the bloodlnes/lineage stuff. Where are you sourcing it from? I am not familiar with most the things you are talking about, would be interested to look further in to it.
Btw someone asked how a society that controls and is essentially rather evil can call itself Buddhist - well, history proves that people who call themselves Christian can kill, start "holy wars" and etc etc. Badness is in the people, their religion is relatively irrelevant. People will always twist things to their own designs if thats their true intention.
Talk of the swastika - from what I remember the traditional swastika type symbol is not the same as hitlers - the original was for the sake of good, purity etc (like mentioned already I think) but hitler reversed it. Like how people reverse sacred names to desicrate them, very dark indeed.
Rob
Here is the Tacitus germania on the lineage of germanic tribes verse 2:
Celebrant carminibus antiquis, quod unum apud illos memoriae et annalium genus est, Tuistonem deum terra editum. Ei filium Mannum, originem gentis conditoremque, Manno tris filios adsignant, e quorum nominibus proximi Oceano Ingaevones, medii Herminones, ceteri Istaevones vocentur.
In their ancient songs, their only way of remembering or recording the past they celebrate an earth-born god Tuisto, and his son Mannum, as the origin of their race, as their founders. To Manno they assign three sons, from whose names, they say, the coast tribes are called Ingaevones; those of the interior, Herminones; all the rest, Istaevones.
This is the original Manu from which all other Manu's descended from:
1. The great sages approached Manu, who was seated with a collected mind, and, having duly worshipped him, spoke as follows:
32. Dividing his own body, the Lord became half male and half female; with that (female) he produced Virag.
33. But know me, O most holy among the twice-born, to be the creator of this whole (world), whom that male, Virag, himself produced, having performed austerities.
34. Then I, desiring to produce created beings, performed very difficult austerities, and (thereby) called into existence ten great sages, lords of created beings,
35. Mariki, Atri, Angiras, Pulastya, Pulaha, Kratu, Praketas, Vasishtha, Bhrigu, and Narada.
36. They created seven other Manus possessing great brilliancy.
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As for the Swastika, swasti means well being and it is the symbol of the sun and abundant health and luck. It is used in worship to protect worshippers from evil forces.
Even the swastika in reverse cannot be designated as evil.
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What's the difference between an albine and an Aryan?
OH ARYAN IMPOSTER (and there have been many):
An Aryan is perfect and they are all descended from the self born body of light and do not need to hide from the sun who's God is one of their ancestors.
Albines are weak mutants. True Aryans are not allergic to the light of the sun, because they light up the world with their knowledge. The Indo Aryans are descended directly from the sun and moon and have the most illustrious spiritual lineage of all embodied earth beings. God likes us the mostest...nyah!nyah!nyah!
I know, I was only kidding, just taking a jab at the ivory skinned/blue eyed/blonde haired aryan appearance...
anyway I'm not an aryan imposter my name is so because I was interested in aryanism/nationalist socialism/wagner/aryan supremacy (I fit the criteria of an aryan anyway).
Anyway are you aryan? the northern european sort or the vedic sort?
As for the swastika well...technically the one most people see is a swavastika, a reverse swastika. What nonsense about hitler reversing it to represent "3v1L!!111" do you really think...??? I mean...I just think it goes without saying.
The reverse is actually an invocation of energy and chaos according to the kabballah...Dr Krohn of the thule gesselshaft to which hitler beolonged suggested the swastika to hitler as a symbol of the nationalist socialist german workers party (nazi party), the red background being for blood, the white disc for nationalism and racial purity and the swastika or swavastika rather as a symbol the struggles of the aryan man for victory...
Reversed and spinning clockwise, and on a white disc, also emphasises the swastika/swavastika as a symbol of the sun.
The swastika also represented the hammer of thor, crushing the serpent of the world, in the anti-semitism thule gesselshaft, the serpent of the world was the jews...
The romans also used this symbol by staking it down in the ground of towns that they had conquered...
It's also seen on the statues of the ariyan buddha, and is a hindu symbol, the hinduism culture was meant to have been a product of the aryan...
HHmm well perhaps, but it is fairly standard dark magic (& demonic) procedure to reverse sacred symbols/names to produce their evil opposite. The upturned pentagram is the best know, with the base world presiding over the spiritual. Also upturned christian crosses - and speaking of kabbalah, isn't the same done to names of the spheres to produce their klippotic opposites? (not sure about that, anyone care to correct me?).
Aryan - you mentioned the direction of spin. The non-reversed form (is also a symbol of a spinning chakra in one configuration), going clockwise, is the positive direction. Reversing this flips polarity to negative.
Guys, all this seems far too coincidental to me!!
As to what it then represents/designates, well traditionally the energy forms surrounding any symbol are built up over time by humanity. If hitler were to take the non-reversed it would still be a symbol for all the positives mentioned by others, but by reversing it hitlers dark associates could pour all their negative energies into the symbol without worrying about the metaphysical "clash" it would cause. And since we are talking about opposites I imagine reversing it would seem quite fitting to them.
[:P]
Rob
The reversed pentagram used for satanism, is circa about 1966 by the first church of satan, in this case it represnts the base material over the spiritual, why? because COS is an atheistic organisation with no spiritual reality or beleif in afterlife...or magick consequently which defeats it being a symbol of dark magick.
The reversed pentagram existed far, far before then, probably in ancient egypt where the upright pentagram originated.
Oh, and the upturned cross is a symbol of defying christianity, nothing more.
Hitler also beleived in light and dark duality as an esotoricist, to him the dark haired, brown eyed, swarthy skinned people (like semites and slavs) represented the darkness where as those of pale complexions, aryans, represnted the light, also if he beleived in racial purity it is likely he wanted to swastika as a symbol of purity, and positivity and light for the aryan people.
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I know, I was only kidding, just taking a jab at the ivory skinned/blue eyed/blonde haired aryan appearance...
anyway I'm not an aryan imposter my name is so because I was interested in aryanism/nationalist socialism/wagner/aryan supremacy (I fit the criteria of an aryan anyway).
Anyway are you aryan? the northern european sort or the vedic sort?
i'm the Vedic sort, and the chinese are the chinese sort. only those who trace their spiritual ancestry to Manu, the presiding emperor of heaven (chinese son was Huang di), first emperor of earth, are Aryans. Manu divided the earth and gave his sons rulership over different parts of the earth to rule according to the Dharma, the Way of the force. Those who trace their ancestry to others are not Aryans and were later creations. The definition is closed.
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HHmm well perhaps, but it is fairly standard dark magic (& demonic) procedure to reverse sacred symbols/names to produce their evil opposite. The upturned pentagram is the best know, with the base world presiding over the spiritual. Also upturned christian crosses - and speaking of kabbalah, isn't the same done to names of the spheres to produce their klippotic opposites? (not sure about that, anyone care to correct me?).
[:P]
Rob
[}:)]one should invoke the devil doing the headstand! The devil REALLY gets excited when he finds people upside down instead of the USUAL right side up.[:X]
[;)]
Interesting article
Scholars Who Believe in the False History of India Are A Dying Breed by Stephen Knapp
See: -
http://www.stephen-knapp.com/scholars_of_false_history_of_india_are_a_dying_breed.htm
Stephen
P.S. A warning from history: World War II fatalities were circa 61 Million of our fellow human beings!
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Oh, and the upturned cross is a symbol of defying christianity, nothing more.
Sooooo, you are agreeing with me, that reversing a symbol is to defy the original idea that symbol represented??!
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The reversed pentagram used for satanism, is circa about 1966 by the first church of satan, in this case it represnts the base material over the spiritual
I though the mention of an upturned pentegram might draw comment, I know its a dodgy one. However, again, you only seem to be agreeing with me that people reverse symbols to produce their opposites, irrespective of the true depth of their magical aspirations.
Anton Lavey was a bit of an egotistic fool, but he had some interesting ideas. What came from the COS after their big split was even more interesting.
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one should invoke the devil doing the headstand! The devil REALLY gets excited when he finds people upside down instead of the USUAL right side up.
Oi, are you taking the mick??! LOL!!!
Hey, have you seen some of the asanas Crowley used to recommend?? Like standing on one leg with the other held in the crook, with your eyes closed and one finger on your nose sort of thing [:O]. Quite hilarious! I couldnt hold that position for one minute, let alone hours!! The guy certainly had some sense of humour [8D]
peace
Rob
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Originally posted by EOL007
Interesting article
Scholars Who Believe in the False History of India Are A Dying Breed by Stephen Knapp
See: -
http://www.stephen-knapp.com/scholars_of_false_history_of_india_are_a_dying_breed.htm
Stephen
P.S. A warning from history: World War II fatalities were circa 61 Million of our fellow human beings!
interesting read, but I looked into the other stuff Knapp wrote and his 'picture' evidence, some of it seems pretty 'hoaky'. I really don't like archeological evidence, there seems to be too much tampering with that sort of thing and too much deep reading into pictures. Now if someone found krishna pictures in America, would one say that All of America were once krishna worshippers?
Scriptural evidence, written records, stuff that's more a part of the cultural tradition is much harder to tamper with, and seems stronger for me. I was actually surprised myself when I read the Tacitus Germania and that 'man' occurs as the word in All of germanic/nordic languages for human, there were certain religous practices which I looked into that seemed similar.
then I read further into other histories and how other major civilization came about, Manu is also known as the emperor of heaven -- head of the "heavenly council" of creators or 'masters of the universe' and makers of kings and emperors of the earth as well. he is called a hero, the first one to initiate sacrifice.
What was the goal of that magical and Esotheric Order?
(not to serve Hitler, I hope)
for Instance, they killed it's homosexual members,
because of their "Spiritual" "twistedness"(non-purity).
they feared,
combined that, homosexualism with the power they gain in the Initiation -could be a grate unnecesary risk to the Order.
<of Buddhist-Nordic Jupiterian=Thoric thunders!>
and what about their Esotheric Buddhistic Roots?[:)]
To bring back the Himmler/SS issue:
Do you think that there IS a correlation between dabbling in the Esoteric Arts and the weird inventions that the Nazis were rumoured to be undertaking during their quest for world domination??
thanks, the_demigod, i had the same question. I'd known for years that Hitler was interested in the occult, but was never sure of exactly HOW far this obsession went. The Spear of Destiny, The Ark of the Covenant, The Green Dragon Order, etc etc. Hitler obviously wanted to use occult black magic to subdue the rest of the world. An earlier post suggested that he learned how to make powerful speeches, which is certainly plausible. Power of the Word. What else did the occult offer them? Regardless, they ultimately did not benefit from it, other than killing millions of people and getting their beautiful homeland bombed. (in hindsight though, history does let us learn what unchallenged men can do with unlimited power and corruption, something that can easily be applied to modern times)