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How to create a thought-form entity.

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SoulDragon

Oh yeah another idea if you wanted a sword  then why not make a thought-form and ask him to bring you one? That way you would have a sword and a companion[:)]. Just a thought.
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SoulDragon

Unstable means very very angry right? Also, I wanted to know if this being is solid and can be posessed like a normal being. I hate coming up with extra questions right after I post... Sorry guys!
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Mystic Cloud

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Unstable means very very angry right? Also, I wanted to know if this being is solid and can be posessed like a normal being. I hate coming up with extra questions right after I post... Sorry guys!



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Tenken

Uhh... I hope you realize all you're doing is calling a spirit (Or a "Neg", as the lingo seems to be) and telling it what form to take.

Veccolo

Not really. As I understood it, servitors are created by the magic(k)an/s and are programmed to do a certain task. They lose (or better: use) energy like every other being, this is why they are often programmed to get their energy from other things, like other people for example, so they don't "die" too soon. Plus it doesn't drain the magic(k)an this way.

The more energy it gets, the stronger and more independent it becomes, until they get to the stage of a god form.

On the other hand, you can summon every being you like (even cartoon and movie characters), as long as they exist as a thought form somewhere.

At least that's how I understood it.
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Colin

I agree with Veccolo, although I think of it more as raising/channelling energy and programming it with your intent rather than "creating" the servitor/thought-form. I suppose it's a matter of semantics.

Gandalf

In response to the recent discussion concerning thought-form beings, I am posting this genuine Occult technique for creating a thought-form entity.  For those unfamiliar with this concept, it concerns the creation, through thought power, of an artificially constructed 'spirit familiar', which can serve its creators in many ways.

Note: People attempt this at their own risk: There IS an element of danger involved which will be explained below!

This technique is as follows:

The technique requires about 5 or 6 people. Six is ideal as the greater the group, the more energy is available; however, you don't want too many people as you want the atmosphere to remain intimate. This group should plan to meet up in a designated place for two to three sessions per week (sessions last for 1 hour). Several weeks will be required before results are obtained, so a degree of patience is essential. The place should be a clutter-free dark room (pitch-black or as far as possible) as this makes it easier for the thought-form to initially manifest. It helps if the room is far enough away from other people so as not to attract attention, as things can get pretty noisy later on. Everyone should sit around a table placed in the middle of the room.

At the first session, the group begins thinking up an imaginary life story for the entity, including, his/her name, when and where they were born, events in their life, what they look like, when they died etc. They should try to make it as detailed as possible, filling it out as much as possible and really getting creative with it.

The group will finalise the basic outline of the being's history quite quickly, so as the sessions go on, try to think of the session as a reminiscence of the being; talk about what they were like, the things they used to get up to, events in their life etc. Start asking aloud if this person would like to join the group now.

Now, after perhaps two to three weeks of these sessions (as I said, twice or three times per week, for one hour is enough), the group will start to notice effects, like rappings, loud knocks, sighs and other odd sounds; sometimes this can get quite noisy. After this, progress will be rapid. After a couple more sessions, the being will attain the ability to speak audibly, at first hardly a whisper and you will need to strain to hear it, but after another session or so, it will become quite clear. You will now be able to communicate directly with it.

This is where the dark room comes in handy, as after a few sessions of communication with the being, it will attain the power to manifest *visibly*. The being will appear as a faint red outline against the dark background. At first this is *very* faint, so that is why the room must be dark. As things progress, it will become more easily visible, eventually being able to manifest in full day-light, right in front of you.

This being has the power to carry out a wide range of tasks and as I said, appears to be quite sentient.

The being will be obliged to serve the group. In addition, control of the entity can be given to specific people. The entity can bring them pretty much anything they want, such as cash or other material goods. Alternatively, the being can tell them where such things can be found. The being can also be sent out to possess other people's minds, either overtly or with stealth, influencing their decisions; such actions are regarded by many as black magick and I wouldn't personally advocate this, but I think it's fair to describe to people what thought-forms are capable of doing. It is likely that some psychic attacks are a result of this practice.

A word of warning: Occultists warn that if anyone of unstable mind is a part of the group, then this element will influence the creation of the thought-form, making it unpredictable, possibly even *deadly*.
Because of this, you should vet all those taking part carefully; basically as long as no-one has a history of mental instability or related problems, you should be alright. People do this at their own risk however and should take it very seriously, it isn't a game; all accounts indicate this DOES work, to the surprise of the para-psychologists I mentioned in another post, who succeeded in creating such an entity.

Regards,
Douglas
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PrinceKinjo

Quote from: Gandalf
The technique requires about 5 or 6 people. Six is ideal as the greater the group, the more energy is available; however, you don't want too many people as you want the atmosphere to remain intimate. This group should plan to meet up in a designated place for two to three sessions per week (sessions last for 1 hour). Several weeks will be required before results are obtained, so a degree of patience is essential. The place should be a clutter-free dark room (pitch-black or as far as possible) as this makes it easier for the thought-form to initially manifest. It helps if the room is far enough away from other people so as not to attract attention, as things can get pretty noisy later on. Everyone should sit around a table placed in the middle of the room.

This is an experiment originally done many years ago where "Philip" and "Axel" http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa102201a.htm were created as a research subject by a group.

If everything is made of energy then thought is a POWERFUL energy. Sample entity: http://sacred-magick.com/forum/index.php?s=672b156ecb0c38dcd12e5adb93068308&showtopic=91 chaos + ceremonial magick way  8)[/url]
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UniOne

Listen, the reason though is so strong, is because it is a primary source of energy forged into larger energized components....

Equations:
E(-)+W(-)----> Darkness
E(+)+W(+)----> Light

In other words, the emotion and willpower energy put forth in a sigil or magick summon, the more energy forged in Light or Dark...

Keep in mind this...

(L + D)/2 = S
{Where S is equal to the amount of energy wieldable to any of the above magick abilities...}

Remember... emotion rules the astral plain, and if one can properly harness its power, you can create something wonderful...

narfellus

Well, i'll offer what i can to the discussion but it's a little out of my element, experentially anyway. I've never created a conscious thoughtform as Gandalf suggests, but i've studied the theory and mechanics behind it.

First off, Franz Bardon speaks extensively of thougthform creation in IIH. It can be done by yourself, and his books go deeply into the metaphysical reasons of how what you are doing works, and why. I think that aspect is of utmost importance. It is possible for an inexperienced magician to manifest his imagination and manipulate the elements and not really know what happened, other than that it worked.

He also speaks of group creation that creates larger, longer laster forms, and these are often incapsulated in physical vessels. A golem would be a typical example. I suppose it all hinges on the experience of the practicitioners.

Setting a "death" for the thoughtform is also considered of vital importance by Bardon. Thoughtforms can grow and gain sentience and try eventually to break from the will of the caster. All sorts of bad things can come from this, as well as if a wizards dies and this creations have free reign. They can become vampires and ghosts and other sorts of spiritual beings i don't even know how to classify.

As for spiritual wealth, this seems to be a very common goal of magic work. I don't think it's wrong if done for the right reasons, such as for the Higher Good, your Higher Self, etc. Creating wealth for personal abuse and misuse would probably be a bad thing, or might not work at all. After all everything is energy, and i believe that one of your goals in this existense is to learn to manifest our desires.
If but we knew the power of our thoughts we would guard them more closely.

Gandalf

PrinceKinjo_

Your are correct. The experiment, which originally took place in the 1970s, has since been replicated and improved upon by various occultists and groups over the past few years, resulting in far more impressive results than the original 'philip' experiment, as i have described previously. These are not usually widely known about however.

Doug
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