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Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: Joe_Oh on May 20, 2005, 17:37:52
I've recently come across someone else who, from my intuition and another reliable source, that she knows about and is dabbling in the astral sciences but has no real big interest in the subject. Which leaves me to think that she could have very little in the way of defense or control over her energies and that may end up with her getting, or already having more advanced negs attach/ed to her.

I work at a pizza place and she rarley goes there to order something. Without anything really invasive, more like a few polite nudges, how would I implant a suggestion to go get a pizza or something so I can eventually give her this website info so she can defend/clense herself.

The reason I'm doing this is that I havent seen her in years and now several recent events that I have witnessed that leads me to believe that I need to tell her about a place like this.

Just so I make it CRYSTAL clear. I'm not trying to "pick her up" or whatever. Besides, she's way too good for me anyway. The *most* I could hope for is for her to share some of her experiences and nothing more.

The reason I'm doing this is that well, lets just say she put me on the path to intellectual/spiritual freedom and lets leave it at that.

All I want is to make sure she knows she has the option of safely doing the same when she's ready.

Thanx
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: no_leaf_clover on May 20, 2005, 17:44:21
QuoteWhich leaves me to think that she could have very little in the way of defense or control over her energies and that may end up with her getting, or already having more advanced negs attach/ed to her.

Is there any specific reason you would believe this to be the case in the first place?
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: Joe_Oh on May 20, 2005, 22:43:56
I believe this to be a good probability, not a 100% sure thing, but still- My other source (who's a very experienced but no longer practices the etheric arts) tells me from what he feels, and he is spot on always, that she knows of the things thats she's experiencing but not really interested.

He can tell by how "fuzzy" a person is. He says my fuzz is more defined and hers is a general fuzz. This only confirms what I felt in the first place.

Also, I delivered some pizza to a place where she was selling girl scout cookies in the front. Across the street is a BP gas station where I regularly fill get my gas at. Now Before a couple months ago when this started, sometimes I would look over at the (furniture) store and (not on the consious/obvious level) and get some strange vibe, much like a passing curiosity that is not front of mind and the slightest distraction (like the pump shutting off) would take my attention away from it.

Anyhoo, then a couple of months ago, I see her there in the front, At first I dont know it's *her* selling the cookies, I pass the store making several deliveries.

About a couple hours later, she comes to the store to order a small pizza. At the time she first walked in I was in the back part of the store and no way to see the front. I got the strange urge to take out the couple of boxes that were back there.

To get the dumpster, I had to goto the front looby and out the side door. and of course, she was standing there.

I WAS STUNNED!

I was so stunned that I didnt realize that she was putting off a fuzz, I thought it was just the flood of memories comming back, but it wasnt that. I calmly walked past her, the outside, then back again without saying a word. kinda glad i did, and didnt- ya know?

Anyhoo, she leaves, then I go on another run. I head past the furniture store. Then it hits me, the girl standing out in front was wearing the same white pants white shirt and light brown fur coat. I was like-

HOLY CRAP!

A couple of weeks pass and then guess what. I get a delivery to that furniture store, and they RARELY order from us.

Suffice it to say, I only realized it was that store when I was almost upon it. I thought I was gonna be sick.

(by the by, irony kills- and it has me in it's sights)

PRAYING she wasnt just there(and she wasnt), I go in from the back and put the pizzas down. The guy comes up to pay, he only has a hunderd dollar bill. I didnt have the change so he went over to the check-n-go store for some change.

I was like, heheh -Of Course- So I waited there for 5-10 minutes and was thinking 2 things...

1) Wow, this is a nice little spot to chill at, I might buy some stuff here when I get the money

2) There was a small part of me feeling something odd about this place and I wanted to leave asap. And I mean I *Felt* something literally.

It about made me ill, but I maintaned my composure to make a couple timely jokes, and got a real good tip too!

Then I go back to the store, I asked my other source a couple of days later about certain places that make him feel weird, and he said (without telling him about the furniture store) the only place he EVER got a weird vibe was from that furniture store.

My heart sank like a tank quick.

So you see she's leaving quite a presence for even a novice like me to notice, I would like the priviledge to give her the website and my assurances to insure her emotional well being.

There is much, MUCH more to this story I could write a book on it, but my fingers are cramping bad now,  so I leave you all with this....

HELP ME WITH MY REQUEST, THIS IS TEARING ME APART! THE SOONER IT'S OVER THE BETTER!!!!

Thanx-
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: mactombs on May 20, 2005, 23:43:14
Don't worry about it. You'd be surprised how capable people are of taking care of themselves.

Honestly, this sounds more like a case of infatuation or hormonal interest to me. I realize that you made a disclaimer this isn't the case (which only makes me think it is the more, considering you automatically made the assumption that it would be interpreted that way). Generally people aren't quite so selfless with the same sex, or as interested in interfering with their lives.

I've also wondered why people who believe in negs also tend to find the Higher Self inadequate and third-party intervention mandatory. Doesn't make any sense to me. But I won't profess to know better there. I don't believe in negs at all (which might explain why I never have any troubles with them).

If you want to talk to this woman, fine, but I wouldn't take it from the stance that you're doing it for her own good. From her perspective at least, I'd find it rather freaky, and probably offensive.
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: no_leaf_clover on May 20, 2005, 23:53:56
Yeah, I might find it offensive if someone approached me with that sort of thing too. But I'm sure you know the situation better than I do.

All I can say is try to balance your concerns with her personal space and freedom. I was just wondering what led you to believe she may be under some demonic influence.
Title: simple
Post by: Souljah333 on May 21, 2005, 08:26:45
yeah...woman's intuition...it sounds a little strange. first of all no one is too good for you, second i think you just have a crush, esp. if you can describe exactly what she was wearing. it's okay to be honest about your attraction... we don't care. i'd say leave it be, but obviously that's something you aren't heading towards.

wait till she's out front again...or wherever you know she's at. buy another small pizza (out of your pocket), write www.astralpulse.com on the lid with a marker, a smiley face...and your handle "Joe_Oh". who knows...she might already be a member!?! :wink:

i wouldn't turn down a free pizza! and you could have someone else deliver it if you didn't want to confront here.

333
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: Joe_Oh on May 22, 2005, 18:38:40
hahaha, great replies- and I expected every type of response.

Listen, I didnt ask for these strange series of events to happen, quite frankly I'd rather stay out of it entirely. But since when I get a naggining feeling to do something, or at least intervine to a degree- it's usually spot on.

And yes, I do have a "soft spot" for this person, but I do my bet to keep my egocentricity at bay, and it works most of the time.

Like I said before, I would very much like to have the oppurtunity to ease her in the direction of this website, and then leave it be. Nothing more. It would be a great icing on the cake to hear of some of her experiences, but even that may be a too lofty a hope for me.

Because what I've been shown, and more importantly HOW I've been shown it, I just need to get this done and overwith and then forget it A.s.A.p.

So, who gonna help me?

P.S. I don't think shes under any major negitive influence, I'm sure everyone has them too a degree, but I'd hate for her naturually occuring ability to be stiffled by a nasty neg that catches it's "eye". I'd feel alot better knowing she has the tools for defense if need be.
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: Tom on May 22, 2005, 19:00:15
It sounds like you are familiar enough with her to send energy to her from a distance for her highest good. If it is the technique you are not familiar with, you could try prayer instead. Learning to shield yourself would be useful, too, for when you find yourself going into that store to avoid any external influences.
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: Souljah333 on May 22, 2005, 21:48:39
help you with what?

i don't see the big deal. if a complete stranger came up to me and said...
"i know this sounds odd, but something is telling me you need to check out this site"...and then slipped me a piece of paper with the address. i wouldn't think anything of it...except..."gee maybe i should check this out".

seems like a waste of energy to fret about it, when you can just walk up and do it.

what's the big deal?
333 :?
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: Joe_Oh on May 23, 2005, 00:58:49
First of all, I know her a little bit, she was in the same class as I in high school.

And secondly I have a slightly insane fear of being considered a stalker/sexual predator so magicly appearing where she may hangout to give her the web addy is out of the question.

Thats why I would like to remotely suggest to her going to my place of work on a thursday friday afternoon.

Where's a reliable place to learn how to send energies/suggestive thoughts?

Thanx-
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: Tom on May 23, 2005, 01:43:23
Stubborn, aren't you? If you want to help at this time and you cannot take the direct approach for social reasons, then do the best you can with prayer and energy work and leave the rest up to God.
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: patapouf on May 23, 2005, 06:44:14
Quote from: Joe_OhFirst of all, I know her a little bit, she was in the same class as I in high school.

And secondly I have a slightly insane fear of being considered a stalker/sexual predator so magicly appearing where she may hangout to give her the web addy is out of the question.


If you know where she live, it is easy to put in her mailbox an anonymous letter referring to this site.

Take care,
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: Joe_Oh on May 23, 2005, 18:05:49
I dont know where she lives, and quite frankly I dont want to know.

I said I know of her since she was in a same class as I, I dont know her as a "friend" per say.

And yes, I am being a bit on the stubborn side- but at the same time I am practicing my energy skills by visualization sending some of my energy to that furniture store, maybe then on the subconcious level be reminded to go get a snack at my pizza store.

As far as God goes, I constantly ask to get this thing overwith asap with solid confirmation of the completed task.

The only reason I ask for the confirmation is that if I wasn't meant to intervine on some level with her situation, then I wouldnt have been shown these things about her in the first place.
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: mactombs on May 24, 2005, 00:20:20
QuoteThe only reason I ask for the confirmation is that if I wasn't meant to intervine on some level with her situation, then I wouldnt have been shown these things about her in the first place.

Ah, if only people said the same thing every time they saw a donate-a-dollar-to-starving-children commercial ...

Souljah333 has put forth the best answer I think. It's also important to reiterate that no one is "too good" for you. Putting her on a pedestal like that only deepens infatuation and simultaneously dooms you to inaction and failure. Take a direct route if you want quick solution.

1) Introduce yourself to her 2) Get to know her a little bit 3) See how she reacts to AP stuff in casual conversation.

And consider this: if she does come to this site, and to this thread, what do you imagine her reaction will be?
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: Tom on May 24, 2005, 01:06:55
Mactombs, I wish I had thought to say something like you just did. Your post is absolutely correct. If we were talking on the "Share Reiki International" forums I could click on a button to award you a "karma point" for your post. Given that we don't have those here, all I can do is to post to say "You are right."
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: Joe_Oh on May 24, 2005, 18:20:46
I have it from a very reliable experienced source that she "knows of" these types of things, but shows no definition in her "fuzz" around her and means she has little interest in the way of currently pursuing the ethric sciences. So the likelyhood of her stumbling onto this post is rather small.

Secondly, I only say shes too good for me is based on the fact that if I think theres a chance for something to happen, this may turn into more than just an item on the "things to do list".

If I keep "the slight chance" at bay, then I can still forget about this all the sooner all the easier than rather me think and wonder about mute points.

P.S. About that "donate-a-dollar-to-starving-children commercial" this is different, and I wish it wasnt, but since it isnt, I'm going to find the best way to get this overwith A.s.A.p.
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: Souljah333 on May 24, 2005, 19:15:00
obviously you haven't gotten the response you were seeking, and she hasn't come in for a pizza as you desired. i'm sorry about that. by the way there is a huge difference between desiring to want something, and just willing it into being=yourself gets in the way.  i thought you didn't want to confront her at all, but you are willing to do so if she comes into your work, correct? if you are willing to say something to her then...then what's the difference of just walking into her work and saying something...i guess that's what i was trying to say. i know you are on several different missions here...to help a person you admire/are attracted to, to work on implanting suggestions into anothers psyche, and maybe down the line become better acquainted with this person. if you really "care" then you are willing to do anything...make a fool of yourself, be rejected, get laughed at, etc. if your genuine in your concern none of these things will matter. plus...god gave you a mouth and legs and it's the simplest, most direct route. why make it more complicated then it needs to be? it must be frustrating you to no ends by now, becuz it's definitely frustrating me! just think...she could have signed up @ AP by now...and y'all could be getting together for coffee and talking about your experiences, she could be getting in touch with other aspects of herself, etc...but instead you're still wondering what to do, when you already know what you need to do. we're all behind you. just do it already!!!

and thank you mactombs for the kind words, and the great insight. and yeah...why don't we have karma points? i could use some, but come to think of it...things could get a little more out of sorts than normal if we started passing around points. we don't need anymore tantrums...or we the points, and a tantrum room!?!

333:wink:

PS.............YOU NEED TO READ YOUR SIGNATURE JOE!
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: Joe_Oh on May 24, 2005, 22:11:06
Hehe, good points for sure, and I do appreciate the timely responses. As far as "just walking up" Hmm, I'm not trying to embarrass her, more than likely she'll be with friends and like I said before, I dont want to come off like a creep. Though I'm sure she's comfortable with what she "knows of", but even then, me comming up from nowhere and laying this on her, no matter how subtle it may be, can still freak someone out.

Just look at me, I've been AP'ing for 5+ years, and even come in contact with a "demon" and a couple other entites, and when I found out that she "knows of" this stuff too, it STILL floored me, took me a month or so to get over the irony of the thing. Esspecially when I'm told that about 5% of the general population "knows of" that other something out there.

I mean, if thats not fate teasing me, I dont know WHAT is...

As far as my signature goes, you like? me like! :) That phrase just popped in a little bit before this "mission thing" started.

Bleh, need sleep...
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: Joe_Oh on May 25, 2005, 19:27:50
Its a weird balancing act I have to deal with here, I've thought long on this and the best way to make it look like a "Just passing by" thing is better than trying to goto places I think she may hang out.

Which is creepier, doing the above, or just mentally nudging her to get a bite to eat @ my place of work, and then after I give her the website forget about this situation and then move on?

Despite what other people here think, I'm not looking to "hook up" with her, I'd be remit to think that I could have shown her this site and didnt and then she learns the hard way the not-so-good side of the etheral is all.
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: Joe_Oh on May 27, 2005, 02:09:37
Because people think when a guy wants to talk to a girl its always about sex or status. Don't get me wrong, I'm a mans man- and she is gorgeous (ohhh gawd) But no, no way, aint happenin.

And even if it could, I'd still be stupified at the idea.

heh
Title: How to remotely implant a suggestion...
Post by: Joe_Oh on May 29, 2005, 01:28:49
Hmmm, I'm not looking to get anything out of this situation other than to know she has the option of exploring how to defend herself psychicly.

Yes, it'd be nice to hear about some of her experiences with the "weirdness" but I'm more than willing to forgo that privilege just to *Know* that she knows about the stated option above.

And yes, I dont *Have* to do anything, but I'd feel a bit responsible if down the line I found out she got attacked/attached by what she may consider a "neg" and I could have told her and didnt. Just like in my previous posts I spoke of strange coincidences that lead me to know that she's (to at least a degree or 2) a "sensitive" and that she very well may be unkowningly at risk.

I ask daily for one more chance to give her the site addy and then pray to never see her again.

Period.