I know almost nothing about wands/staves but, isn't the important part at the tip? Like a gem/crystal at the tip of a staff... I heard many people use crystals...
Sorcerers tend to use elemental staffs. Wizards use wands.
my finger works good
Was that supposed to be a joke?
Absolutely not!
Wands - by themselves - contain very little power that you can use.
Sure, there is tree power, crystal power, etc., but this power tends to have its own agenda. The power to SHAPE and DIRECT this power comes from YOU.
For the most part, when it comes to beginners, I have discovered wands are props that shape the mind, to make you THINK you are doing something magical, when in reality your finger will do just fine.
If you are VERY in tune with a certain tree or other wand material, go for it, get or make a wand if you must, but then the magical activity is more about your RELATIONSHIP between yourself and the item in your hand.
I have a beautiful wand on my altar, made of crystal and blown glass. It was a gift. It sits there and looks pretty.
I use my finger.
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my finger works good
where Tish? again, pleasing yourself?
WAND+STAFF=PHALOS=endowment!
and that's the Only use for a Wand=STAFF!
that's what it's for!
Crystal at the top?-vibrator at the top!
perhaps that's the REAL reason I use my finger! who needs another PHALOS around the house????????????????????? [}:)]
yes,yes but Use as many PHALOS AS YOU CAN!!
-THE MENOPAUSE IS GETTING CLOSER!
do not act 'mammy' to your boyfriend!
HAHA you guys are funny, tree power? most wands aren't even wood. No the real use for wands is as a focus point for energy, and yes your finger is also a focus point for energy. A wand essenially can just be alternating layers of orginic and non-organis stuff wraped around a tube with one end sealed off, this will attract and trap energy inside it usually sending it out the open end. Wands are really only usfull for beginners who can't focus energy like me :)
BRAVO! you are a real Inventor of Orgonedicks!
mr Reich?
does your endowment work the same?
do the Tish! do the Tish!
HAIL! all your Phallic worshipers and sythe!
NO wands in my chalice today, thank you!
When I am ready
I will put out ADVERTISEMENT
[:o)]
WANTED!
WAND: OWNER ATTACHED
Where is the Sythe?
he is clever(I have put his commentary in my library)
but NON-sense of humour!
perhaps, he does not want "us" to be laughing at his endowment(s)!
perhaps he is a Genious(they are very emotional usually!)
Quote Tisha...
When I am ready
I will put out ADVERTISEMENT.
I thought that's what the pic to the left was [:D]
Well two adverts !
Absolutely correct, wands and staves are tools, and whether one uses one or the other or either is really a matter of preference.
However, I do disagree with the point that they're only of use to beginners.
[;)]
Tools can be used by anyone, and a practiced Witch (or whichever title you prefer) can use a wand to very good effect indeed, creating a powerful tool by storing energy within the wand itself, or simply as a focus for thier own manipulations.
Look at it this way, a person can do the math in their head, but the slide-rule will make it easier, and the calculator easier still.
Magic and Magical tools are similar.
Some people use their tools to very good effect indeed!
Personally, I use my finger, too... hands can be very expressive.
[;)]
and what kind of Energy do we talk about?
What kind of Energy staff/WAND collects?
lilith?
What kind of work would you use the wand for?
That would be the answer.
[;)]
no, realy what are the Energies, you doubble-crossing b/witch?
con-artism?
[8)]
Please remember to capitalize that 'b' next time, 'k?
[:)]
still no answer, poor Lilith.
you do not know. admit it.
no Energies left for you?
or you do not want to show your stupidity?
[:D]
I've seen you poke and sneer at different people on these forums... for what?
To prove your superiority?
[:O]
Sneer away, if it helps you bolster at all.
[:)]
Do learn though, some people don't play for no better reason than... it ain't their style of game.
[;)]
but of course!
how convenient!
(now you will not share your "knowledge"!)[:)]
now you could not possibly share your "knowledge"!
it is because of me, admit it.
now, your "wisdom" nobody will see!
[:X]
tsk tsk
Your question was answered before you asked... you would know that if you were less eager to practice your goading and more concerned with the knowledge you feign to seek.
You seem threatened by my lack of wisdom... actually, from reading your replies to others, followed by your behaviour here, you appear to be threatened by women... are you worried about being Dis-illusioned?
[:D]
don't worry, be happy.
[:)]
Mages use wands in High Magic rituals to intrefere with entities. They're used to conduct the astral fluid. To construc. The magic swords however are used to defend against agressive entities when they materialize into our plane.
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"Your question was answered before you asked... you would know that if you were less eager to practice your goading and more concerned with the knowledge you feign to seek."
what-a-loud of nonsense!
still, no answer? you do not know, right?
(still no Energies from hipothetical/pathetical "which"?)
you just want to talk. but you know nothing.
how sad.[:(]
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The magic swords however are used to defend against agressive entities when they materialize into our plane.
and what are those Swords made of? Intention?
realy?
ummmmmmmmmm ...... those of you who treat your altar tools as SYMBOLS of things you do/are, and don't worry about what others think of them, good for you! The party is around the corner, come this way!
In fact, my altar sword isn't even a real sword. It's a beautiful, gold filligreed, miniature spanish conquistador sword, meant to be used as a letter-opener. Since it is not allowed to draw blood anyway, it's perfect for it's job as SYMBOL. Like my crystal wand, it lies there and looks grand.
As for my REAL magical blade, it's not fancy at all, it is NOT on my altar, and it is used to CUT.
As for my finger-wand, it directs my fire. That is all . . . if folks want to do other things with their wands, that's just fine with me . . . in fact, if they wish, they may conduct an orchestra with it!
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Like my crystal wand, it lies there and IT looks grand.
it ryhmes!
[:)]
there is no difference between magic sword and a sword made for
killing.
those for killing are even better!
Tisha I didn't say it had to be fancy [:P] Anything that can be magnetized and has a sharp tip works. I even have a book here that has instructions on how to make a 2 in 1 using a cane.
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there is no difference between magic sword and a sword made for killing. those for killing are even better!
My dear Azaithoth, if there were no difference, you would not differentiate as to which is better! In either case, you play too much with your sword. All this talk of kill, kill, kill, BLAH BLAH BLAH. You need a new hobby. I suggest you find yourself a fierce, beautiful girlfriend and practice some POLARITY MAGIC!!!!!!!!!! [:D]In other words, get out of your apartment and go use your wand! Report back to us old folks with some good poetry. [;)]
tsk tsk
The answer is there for anyone with a rudimentary grasp of English, Elementary comprehension, and a Will to communicate.
[8D]
Go look up "goad" in your Icelandic/English dictionary, Red, and try to understand that some of us are adults, not children, and don't need tinkling contests to prove anything to anyone, especially such as you are proving to be.
[:D]
<poke>
... and no, it doesn't rhyme.
[;)]
</poke>
You are correct, by many accounts, KoolGZe, although I've never heard it needs a sharp point, nor necessarliy needing magnetism, although for the kind you're specifically talking about I expect you're right.
[:)]
You too are correct, Tisha, except that wands
can be more than symbols if constructed/used correctly.
I don't, but I do know some that have, and it
has been explained to me (the making of this kind of wand/staff), and metaphysically it makes sense, though I haven't tried it.
As yet.
[;)]
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Go look up "goad" in your Icelandic/English dictionary, Red, and try to understand that some of us are adults, not children, and don't need tinkling contests to prove anything to anyone, especially such as you are proving to be.
and are you proving to yourself and to the others to be an Adult-here?
so, what are you doing here, then?
learning or proving?
anyway, if you are an adult, and know English a little bit more then
any Icelandian,
you still do not know what Energy to put in the staff except
your stupidity and Ignorance.
maybe it is because you think you are an adult.
to be Witch is not to be an adult, anyway.
it is usualy a Childish game for an average mind:
"to have powers!" "as a witch!" "just like on tv!"
"just like people there: on astralpulse!"
but you are just a crazy mother that like to imagine things inside your average uneducated(in magic-sense) mind.
anyway, when you die, you want be an adult any more,
you will no longer "prove" to everybody! that you are an adult,
you will be dead as an unborn Child.
how do you like it uneducated "witch"?
<snicker>
Myself,i find the word witch dumb.
I mean,there must be some better word for it.
The word Witch is associated with old hags flying on brooms.
It's not because some people associated the "witch" word with old hags flying on brooms that you should change it... What if the new word you choose is also associated in the same way...? How many times will you change? It's the same with the word "sorcery", that has been associated with negative occult activities... Like people associated "TaiChi" with old people doing slow motion dance in parks... Like people associated "French" with smelly people that never take a shower; etc... Do you say "cliche" in english...?
It's not the word witch that is dumb; it's the association that people made...
Enlighten me,what is a witch again?
An old hag flying on a broom... [:P][;)]
Btw, why do you hate wiccans, as you states in your profile...?
Oh,i still have that one?
Well,i havent met a decent one yet,so i wouldnt know better.
I have newwwwwwwwwwwws for everyone. The word "witch" is a northern european word for sorcerer. THAT'S ALL!
Every culture has their word for it. Shaman, medicine-man, strega, brujo/bruja, voodoin, mambo . . . etc. . . . . the traditions are different, but the Force behind it, and the Great Work, are the same.
But this has nothing to do with wands. If you wish to discuss, I'm starting a new thread, it could be entertaining! I'll add some historical reference to anyone who is interested.
(So how do you like being a witch, Mr. Azaithoth? We will hold a big party for you.)
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Enlighten me,what is a witch again?
in slav(w)ish language, there are 2 roots for that word!
1st: VISHTITSA: which means the woman which makes a milk sauer.
(when she comes into the room, the milk becomes sauer .
that is an metaphore, but still, that is a true legend.)
2nd: VIESHTA: in short: capable woman : woman with skills.
I have met a few, but they quited their skills, soon after,
or they never practised their natural skills,
-out of some stupid reasons, -OF COURSE!
so, I wouldnt know better.
so it seems,
the most of the women are here today,(I will not name a few,here,)
I hope not -all!
to practise their 'magic' without their skills(because they have none!) in the food of others!
only a few patty tricks along the way,
a few technics -at most!
bat wings in chicken soup etc
they do not even know - a basic Energies!- when they (do not) see One.
they think of it as a -SOUP! = "a mixture of all-sort of things"
they cannot differenciate -anything! no skills!
only HOCUS-POCUS with no focus!
people, -DO NOT EAT IT!
wands can be used to channel your energy through: they by themselves have no power, but can be used to magnify magic energy. jewels and what the wand is made from can have different effects on the amount of the increase in power.
Wizards have staffs, magicians have wands, etc - they appear in all the stories, films, etc.
But what about in reality? Is there really any actual use for a stick of whatever size when doing magic? And if so, what? I've never encountered anything, but some people swear by them..