Yeah yeah it´s sad. Christians they even see sex in Santa Claus coming through the chimenea oh my lord that´s the work of the devil...
there are no Christians.
the last Christians were seen in the Egyptian Colonies that jews today call Jerusalem.
those were copts, you know, gnostic evangelion(Gospels)
the last accurate form of bible was found as they-egyptians book
of Astral travels and astrology.
the bible was and is Egyptian book of astrology.(today emotional nonsense-stories.)
OH MY GOD, positive magnetic poles exert electrical force and negative poles recieve or take in electrical force. SCIENCE IS PHALLIC WORSHIP! OFMHGIHTNONMHEATHEN
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SCIENCE IS PHALLIC WORSHIP!
Radical christians see saints and devils everywhere. The see images of their idols in unproprely washed windows. And the see devils in cartoons. No wonder they keep missing al those pedophiles and swindlers in their churches.
geez...'christian fundamentalists'...
I've seen SO much of that crap,I'm starting to believe that they're all remarkably stupid...
they're spouting all that crap while their priests are screwing little boys[:(!]
Mystery schools have long taught that we "project". We project what is inside of us outward onto others. When I want to know what someone is really like, I ask them about others and listen to what they project. Are fundamentalists doing this? Yes. So where is this "satan" they project onto others so often?
Satan(sumerian,egyptian dog, dog-master)
>Satan is Universal label for Chatolic hate.
it is every little HATEFULL thing in someones "good" "Chatolic" life.
somebody spits on "Chatolics" -and he is labeled Satan himself forever.
-it is the most interesting invention!
I have never heard of the prayer of that kind.
-anger projected into One word.
and then? -nothing. just charging?
you put all your hate into just One single word.
and you charge the hate-battery.
Chatolic are charging that hate-battery for more then 1000years!!!!
for what purpose?
and that is the most powerfull black-magic ritual I have ever heard.
for what purpose?
"It would be funny . . . if it weren't so sad!"
No no Tisha - its damn funny AND sad!! Lol so much lunacy....I could quote the entire thing but here's some stuff on the yin/yang that made me laugh especially hard [:)]:
"I had always wondered about the distinctive black and white squares on Masonic floors, as depicted on Washington's apron, above. Now we know they represent the extremely Satanic concept of Yin and Yang, the "favorite of sorcerers." Masons also use two triangles joined together to represent Yin and Yang. Therefore, their depiction of the Hexagram also depicts Yin and Yang. We have described the sexual connotation to the Mason of the Hexagram, above.
However, Masonry also teaches standard Satanic lore about the Yin and Yang symbol......
<snip>...but, their belief in Yin and Yang is identical to the Satanist Mysteries. But, why should we be surprised, for Albert Pike told us that Freemasonry is "identical to the Mysteries "
Well!!! You cant argue with that sort of logic!!!!!!!
Rob
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and more:
"SEX IN MASONIC TEMPLE -- AND THE POMEGRANATE"
ROFLMAO
"I find it highly pagan to realize the obsession Masons have about sex,"
"In reading their explanations for these symbols, you should be amazed at the creativity they demonstrate in assigning sexual connotations to many of their symbols."
Sorry, WHAT obsession about sex??? Who is assigning sexual connotations???
Radha - great point.
"Freemasonry IS a Mysteries Religion. Mystery Religions in all of past history have had several things in common:
1) They serve Lord Satan, most of them openly
2) They reject the One True God of the Holy Bible.
3) God has brought every one of these Mystery Religions into physical judgment. Freemasonry will be no different, but will get its judgment in conjunction with Antichrist."
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
yep, its just funny!!!
oh boy, I would love to keep on quoting, but I had better stop...
Yknow the site made me wonder, just what is so bad about sex? Who says it shouldn't be held in high reguard? I mean, it does create life and all.
Tab - that would be logical, but do you really think the person who wrote that site has any time for logic????
OOOoooh, baby. Never thought anyone could equate a compass with sex. If I'd only known this during my high school Geometry class...[:P]
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Originally posted by Avalon
OOOoooh, baby. Never thought anyone could equate a compass with sex. If I'd only known this during my high school Geometry class...[:P]
If you think thats exciting turn the jesus fish onto one end and you will clearly see that it is the symbolic shape of teh vaginal orafice.
Xander
FreeMasons have been attacked, not by real Christians, but by the roman catholics, for centuries. The main reason is that the Knights Templar passed to the Masons data that, in my opinion, would expose the big lie that the romans have for centuries taught.
Masons know what really happened to the Nazarene. They know what happened to his wife and children. If data were made public that showed what the Nazarene really taught...and this was compared to what the romans taught, there would be some very unhappy people in rome.
When you read periodically some nonsense about Masons, first try to find out how long the author was a member of a lodge. Usually they were never near one, much less a member.
If Masons were as sexually oriented as this bunch tries to say they are, they would have millions of new members overnight.
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Originally posted by Radha
If Masons were as sexually oriented as this bunch tries to say they are, they would have millions of new members overnight.
Kinda like society? [8D]
Radha-that was a very good point about how most people project what is inside them onto others,and see those portions of themselves as being 'out there'.I'll bet you anything that the vast majority of people are absolutely unaware of this happening ALL THE TIME!
it makes you realize that any extreme negative emotion-judgement,hatred,violence,etc-springs from fear,weakness and insecurity.
the truth is the exact opposite of what they percieve-superiority over others.
when you look w/that point of view towards christianity,it's no wonder that it's ripe w/sexual perversion-they see it everywhere: "oh no! electrical plugs and sockets are highly phallic! evil! evil!"
I agree wholeheartedly. In many mystery schools of east and west, one thing they teach is that as you lie down at night, before sleep, play back the day in reverse. If it is 10:00 when you go to bed start at 10:00 and review the day in reverse. See and even try to feel what you felt during the episodes of the day. Especially what you thought or felt toward others. To me this is a tool that readily reveals what we ourselves need most to work on.
When you go to work or school actively and consciously look for the things that tinkle you off the most. How did that person act? What feelings did they put out that upset you most. Then go to work on these in your own self. And please don't bore me with "Oh, I NEVER do that." Yeah right. I've said that to my teachers and soon had to eat it so stopped and observed.
Gnothe Seaton!!! Know Thyself (If you'll pardon my poor Greek.)
One time I was exchanging letters with a man who wrote books about Tibet. His name was Lobsang Rampa. In time I got to meet his brother and in the conversation we discussed my love for martial arts. He said the way to judge your level of perfection is how long you go between fights. Every fight begins with the imperfection residing in your own soul. Every fight ends when you uproot that germ and thus it never occurs. So true.
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He said the way to judge your level of perfection is how long you go between fights. Every fight begins with the imperfection residing in your own soul. Every fight ends when you uproot that germ and thus it never occurs. So true.
Radha, this is beautiful. May I quote you? Or him, I mean?
Sure. I guess the author Lobsang Rampa is dead by now. I haven't been in touch with him in years. I honestly don't know how to say or spell his brothers name. He said I could call him Mr. Smith. He seemed to get a big kick out of this.
I've used this datum ever since he told me about the idea. If there is someone I meet that I can't get along with, I go inside and try to root it out so to speak.
For what it's worth, I trained for a period with Bhikku Uppaya. He had been a monk in India for 61 years and had moved to some mountains near where I lived, in order to retire...
I loved this old guy for two reasons: He was a fount of Wisdom. Real, practical, take-it-home-and-use-it type Wisdom; and he had spent hours as a young man wiping food and tobacco stains off Samuel Clemens beard when he was dying.
He and I discussed this same concept one day and he said that Siddartha had taught that a person normaly only has one big "life" problem to handle in each incarnation. That when one entered the Path of Return, it was like his evolution was accelerated. The student might have as many "life" problems as they could solve. He suggested I give it a go in trying to see how many "life" problems I could find...and go inside and dissolve. He suggested I keep a diary and keep track of these for my own edification.
It really hasn't been easy, but it has been enormously beneficial.
Hope it helps as much as it has helped me.
A.O.M.
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Originally posted by Tisha
It would be funny . . . if it weren't so sad! Check out the christian propaganda against Freemasonry:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/5o5.htm
hm.
those aren't christians. the website is run by some nut who's trying to use the bible as a means of spreading his bs.
so PLEASE don't confuse that site with real christians.
~kakkarot
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it is good that NINJA=Shinobi is Interested in anti-theology!
teach the west a togakure-ryu-ninpo-tai-jutsu that you train for no longer than 3 years!
now you are no-longer shinobi(also means hidden, like Nin)
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you should be esotheric buddhist-not buddhist.
Ninjas came from Yamabushi monasteries-and they practised Shingon
Esotheric Buddhism.
Esotheric magic -after taijutsu!
Yeah from this site, it's pretty obvious who is really obsessed with sex.
This reminds me. When I was 12 or 13, I was walking down the street, and these Catholic guys (mid 30s) two of them pulled up and started preaching to me. After much nagging he got me to recite the thing where you are saved by Jesus. Sorry for sounding ignorant, nothing against christians but I do not follow an organized religion so i don't know the proper terms.
That seemed pretty normal I suppose, but then, they were trying to talk me into getting into their van! They asked me if I wanted to hop in the van and go visit the church. After a few more tries to get me in the van I was starting to get weirded out and walked away fast. That was 10 years ago, but it kinda freaked me out.
I'm packing for a move to the Bible Belt. WHY in the WORLD would I do that, you ask? Well, I have several good reasons, the mountains being one of them. Anyway, every time I drive down there (through Maryland, Deleware, etc) I fiddle with the radio looking for a decent station that isn't calling itself The Christian Values Radio Station.
One day I just got tired and gave up, and listened to the supposed "Christian Values" for awhile. These people were OBSESSED WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S SEX LIVES! They ranted about teens having sex. Gays having sex. Single women having babies. Unmarried people having sex. Sex on TV. Sexually transmitted diseases and abortion. SEX SEX SEX!!!! There was not ONE TOPIC that was not sex related! They had an 800 number, I almost wanted to call in!
I'm not saying all Christians are this way . . . but man! it's funny.
Yea,and its not only the christians.
Christians,jews,muslims,wiccans,druids(hmm,no not druids)
all share this view on sex.
Why?
Tisha, what is Freemasonry really like?
Aristole, I am quite offended, I am a practicing wiccan/Pagan and I do not view sex in the same manner at all. I do think that sex is a very great thing, not to mention it is very human. Out of all the Wiccans/Pagans I have met not one of them were obsessed with sex. I mean sure some of our holidays/Sabbats have to do with sex but it is a celebration of life and love. And besides the Christians are the ones complaining about the sex, we are the ones actually haveing sex....lol. It's true, if you love someone be with them sexually. If you find somebody attractive and you want to have sex with them for just that sole purpose alone, by all means do it. All I am trying to say here is that us Wiccan/Pagans are not obsessed with sex. It is a part of life and it brings us pleasure, not to mention it is how we reproduce. Well, I put my two cents in, anybody else?
Brightest Blessings,
SolsticeOfAdonis
I think a reason many people struggle with a preoccupation with sex is because they have placed intense emotional energy against sex (except in a few circumstances). Whether they understand it or not, subconciously there is a strong opposite emotional energy fixating on sex. Let go of the opposite energies and there is peace. (Sedona Method)
I don't really know enough about Free Masonry to say anything about the site, but I get a weird feeling like it is way off the mark. I didn't really see any humor in it.
btw I am cmt. I send you all my greetings and look forward to getting to know you all. I am interested in learning what you believe and practice.
Hi there.
I'm new here and was just looking through topics, when i came across (no pun intended)this one. I AM a Freemason,and have been for eight years. I am active in my lodge,and was master two years ago.All I can say about the above web site is where did they get their info from?
Ive studied Masonic history, and never saw any references like that in any books of the sort that are offered by this site.(the images are all Masonic, but all are taken out of context.)
Masonary is not about sex. We are a philanthropic organization, based upon the concepts of brotherly love, relief and truth. You must subscribe to the idea of a supreme being,be it Yaweh, Jahova, God,Odin, Ra ect.
There is also a three degree level of initiation, part of which deals with personal rebirth. Yes, there is a lot of symbolism, but a majority of the above posters have it right, you can make anything profane if you have a profane mind.[:)]
Hi stubby,
Just wondering if you could put those images/symbols into context for us? or perhaps you could suggest a more accurate website..
spiral
Without giving away too much info; for I believe that each person finds their own path to enlightenment. Also, I only want to present that of which I am sure. Try www.pathcom.com , and www.mastermason.com/luxocculta/home.htm
I can hear my great-grandparents laughing so hard right now. What a foolish thing for someone to put on a website. I really wish the majority of 'christians' would get it together. aaakk
lol... Like stubby, I'm also a mason, and this site is not unique in it's attempt to show the "evil" of freemasonry. If you want to learn specific rebuttals to the most common complaints against masonry, I highly recommend :
http://www.masonicinfo.com/
Btw: Anyone who thinks masonry is about sex has never been to a lodge. Visit one, and you'll discover the real secret of masonry: it's about *FOOD*! :) A lesser known secret is that you get to dress up in a tux, wear manly jewlery, and one lucky guy even gets a sword to carry!
It is very unfortunate that religious groups stoop to new depths as their power base is eroded. The reason for such badly researched sites is to keep the masses away from societies which offer wisdom regarding the study of themselves and the true power that we all have access to. The cristian church has for years tried to keep the knowledge away from the masses. Shame on them.
But what's really funny, is the vast majority of christian ceremony, is taken from pagan ceremony. The sign of the cross is taken from the kabalistic cross which is also used in masonary. If you don't like masonary, then you shouldn't use the same rituals in your church service!!
The sign of the cross is taken from the cross that Jesus was crucified in. Since the Romans were using the cross before Jesus was crucified, I'm sure that cross had to come from somewhere and has other meanings. But that other meaning is meaningless when used in Christianity because like all symbols, it's the meaning behind the symbol that's important. In this case, it's the idea of salvation to humanity. People didn't just one day say, "Hey that looks cool, let's use it in our ceremonies!"
Hi Blackstream, when I mentioned the sign of the cross, I wasn't refering to the actual symbol itself, I was refering to the tiny ritual that is carried out before services i.e "In the name of the father, the son etc etc."
I totally agree with you that the placing of meaning is very important in symbolism.
It would be funny . . . if it weren't so sad! Check out the christian propaganda against Freemasonry:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/5o5.htm
hm.