Materializing Stuff

[SoulDragon]

I get the impression by the look of my topic and the fact that nobody is replying you guys don't think I'm serious. Really guys I'm serious about this is it even possible? I'm guessing not because nobody is replying, but I've read somewhere that it is. If it isn't, just tell me that[]. If it is and you don't know how, or don't want to tell, don't reply. If it is and you do know how and want to teach, then reply. That is all.

[Suigin]

As far as I've been able to see, absolutely anything is possible, provided with the proper technique and power with which to employ it. Creating an object, like anything else directly changing the physical world, will prove incredibly difficult. I've never done it or knowlingly seen it, so I can't tell you how difficult, but it may be that the time it would take you to learn how to do it would be greater than your natural lifespan...

If magick obeys the laws of conservation of energy/matter, you should realize just how much energy would go into creating an object. Einstein's e=mc^2 means energy (joules) = mass (kilograms) * c^2 (~30000000000000000). Creating a marble would require the same amount of energy you could use to destroy the world, which is just really, really silly.

If you'd really like to try it, I'd start with the same idea behind imagining an astral object into existence, to the umpteenth degree...

It may be far easier to learn some slight-of-hand, or use mind-affecting techniques to make someone believe that you materialized something. Giving other people solid hallucinations is another thing I'm afraid I don't know how to do.

[alpine9]

this is one of the most gaurded abilities.

[yothu]

Well, I would say that actually everybody is manifesting his thoughts, desires and goals one want's to achieve into his life. I believe that everybody gets what he wants and doesnt want. Time may vary in which individuals are able to manifest into reality, but in fact we all are doing this whole the time.

Perhaps mastering this "ability" is what we would call "instantaneous manifestation or materialization", in which one would be able to "transform water into wine" or else of this "magic"... hahaha

[Adept_of_Light]

Hello SoulDragon,

quote:How do you materialize stuff out of thin air?[:O]It's magic!

Indeed it is magic, but magic does not defy Newtonian or Quantum Physic laws, instead it makes use of higher laws still mostly undiscovered by modern science and unknown to the layman. Nothing can be created out of "thin air", however the materialization of physical matter out of *seemingly* thin air is in fact a very real reality.

Such manifestations are produced over and over again by various ancient and modern Yogis, Saints and holy Masters, not to mention Christ did the same with the continuous splitting of the loaf of bread to feed the masses. There are various East Indian Yogi's today who for example have the ability to execute "vibhuti"  - manifesting grams or kilos of sacred ash down from their finger tips. Google has a few pictures of this if you search for that key word.

Here's a page with a picture of a still living holy Master executing the siddhi or occult faculty [note picture half way down]: http://beaskund.helloyou.ws/askbaba/guide/avatarmission.html). Here's an excellent page describing the meaning of the phenomenon: http://www.sripremananda.org/english/e1_swami/e1c_mahashivaratri/e1c_vibhuti_001.htm


But the siddhi is not limited to only sacred ash. You could manifest anything you want, from living matter such as a fruit to an entire building if you wanted and had the right power/knowledge. Once you have the necessary power, your imagination is practically the only limitation.

Like every other aspect of lower and higher magic, there is a procedure to it, a protocol to be followed, a set of variables which when combined yield a result. Following the procedure exactly each time with the same variables in equal quantities, like a chemical reaction, always yields the same results - thus making the result repeatable. If it is repeatable it is not a miracle - it does not defy Universal laws but rather makes use of them accordingly and is therefore a science. Or more precisely, a sacred science. In the end there really is no "magic" or "miracle", it is only a question of making use of the the right knowledge and necessary power to produce the desired effect. The how it can be done is mostly related to one's spiritual & mental development and with the intruction outlined in advanced forms of Yoga (or similar/parallel teachings in other spiritual paths), physical manifestations out of *seemingly* thin air can thus take place.

Cheers,
Adept of Light

[__--nezabaleta--__]

Since matter are equal to condensed energy, and energy can be gathered from the Zero Point Field, then that doesn't so much incredible from the physical viewpoint. Perhaps condensing Zero Point energy centered in a ectoplasm shell, provided by a medium, you can materialize anything you want; done a reliable model. I think this would be a way for to replication or teletransportation of things; in a fashion similar to "Star Trek: The Next Generation" picture. By other hand, do you remember the Christ Miracle of the replication of bread and fish? That's an example, to think on.
NEZabaleta

[Rin_Daemoko]

Let's see ... to change raised energy into matter you would need to convert it into the proper kinds of quarks which would then become the specific subatomic particles you'd need.  Then you could take those and assemble them into atoms, then molecules, then particles, then complex shapes and structures. Voila! Yeah, it is highly, highly improbably than an organic being would ever have the energy and mental capacity for such a feat.

[robertk4you]

Since,i am interested in magic for about 10,and i read many books,starting from yoga to ghosts,i will say,that making staff appear from mid air is possible,so is teleportation,levitation,and all other advanced abilities.People who see this staff think,they are fake,but they are wrong,they are rally wrong.I even know,how magician,can make his assistant appear,for example in the box.I can tell you secrets,noone knows here,if you want.Just ask me here.

[SoulDragon]

I was just thinking, and there could be another way to create things out of thin air. If you can use some cryokinesis. you can cryo the air in the space you want it, like a cookie cutter, and then... Never mind, it would be too cold to touch. Sorry for wasting your time...

Thanks 4 keeping this topic up 4 2 months.[]

[SoulDragon]

Oh yeah, and does anybody know where I could maybe get easier to understand instructions on how? Sorry if every one of you explained how to do it thoroughly three times, but, to tell the truth, my brain hurts.[xx(]

[SoulDragon]

How do you materialize stuff out of thin air?[:O]It's magic!