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Magic => Welcome to Magic! => Topic started by: Tisha on October 11, 2003, 17:22:51

Title: white magic
Post by: Tisha on October 11, 2003, 17:22:51
Are you sure?  With a screen name like yours?  What a great screen name for an evil mage!

Seriously.  If you are interested in Wicca, go to your local bookstore, ask for the metaphysical section, go there to the Wicca shelf, close your eyes, and reach.  Buy the first book you touch, it simply does not matter, in the very beginning.

If you like what you read, go to the nearest big city, and start lurking around coffee shops and co-ops.  Read their bulletin boards.  You will come across advertisements for the next "open full moon circle."  Show up.  If you like what you see, start hanging out!
Title: white magic
Post by: EyesOfVengeance on October 12, 2003, 10:17:00
quote:
Originally posted by Tisha

Are you sure?  With a screen name like yours?  What a great screen name for an evil mage!

Seriously.  If you are interested in Wicca, go to your local bookstore, ask for the metaphysical section, go there to the Wicca shelf, close your eyes, and reach.  Buy the first book you touch, it simply does not matter, in the very beginning.

If you like what you read, go to the nearest big city, and start lurking around coffee shops and co-ops.  Read their bulletin boards.  You will come across advertisements for the next "open full moon circle."  Show up.  If you like what you see, start hanging out!




thanks! [;)]
Title: white magic
Post by: Aristoles on October 13, 2003, 13:55:24
I wonder if ill ever see a wiccan/soon-wiccan who is not interested in magic :P

Besides,whats so wrong with satanic and harmful magic?
Title: white magic
Post by: WalkerInTheWoods on October 13, 2003, 14:01:42
quote:
Originally posted by Aristoles

I wonder if ill ever see a wiccan/soon-wiccan who is not interested in magic :P

Besides,whats so wrong with satanic and harmful magic?



People fear that which they do not understand.
Title: white magic
Post by: Lilith on October 13, 2003, 14:40:42
Wicca is a religion, actually, not a system of magic.
;)
They believe in the reality of magic, but casting spells, per se, is not necessary to being Wiccan.
(Depending on semantics, casting a Circle can be considered casting a spell, or it can simply be considered creating sacred ground.)

I do actually know some Wiccans that don't cast spells - other than their sacred circle for religious purposes, of course.
;)
Title: white magic
Post by: shaman on October 14, 2003, 07:56:28
Completely right Lilith!

Most of that are ceremonies, processions, where the witch light candles (of all size and colors) with insens (herbs,..) and make a prayer. Especially the white magic, there are prayers to God actually. So it is really a religion in that sens of the term. Eventually an experience wiccan does not need the candles, the herbs, and all that, he/she just needs her/his will, or the power of the prayer if you prefer.

White magic is also in accord with the Earth and Nature (including stars,...). (green wizardry).

It is actually not very far from shamanism, in that sens that shamanism does not make any "dark magic" but only "positive magic". There is the sorcerer who might be doing some dark magic too, but the Shaman only deals with white magic when he/she deals with magic.
Title: white magic
Post by: KoolGZe on October 14, 2003, 12:31:07
quote:
Originally posted by fallnangel77

quote:
Originally posted by Aristoles

I wonder if ill ever see a wiccan/soon-wiccan who is not interested in magic :P

Besides,whats so wrong with satanic and harmful magic?



People fear that which they do not understand.



What's to understand about black magic. It's the use of subtil forces to intrefrie against someone's will. Some people have principles and don't want to do that.

To the author of this thread : I suppose wiccans believe that if they write some rhymes about a certain subject and then sing it or read it with firm devotion they will somehow have magical power. Do you honestly think things work like that?
Title: white magic
Post by: Lilith on October 14, 2003, 22:43:42
No, KooLGZe, that isn't what Wiccans believe.

Wicca is a religion. They are followers of the Goddess, and believe that all things are possible, and that we are each responsible for all our own actions -
"Ever mind the Rule of Three
Three times what thou givest returns to thee
This lesson well, thou must learn
Thee only gets what thou dost earn!"

Thanks, Shaman. Yes, Wiccans do use elements of Shamanism, Wicca is a fairly young religion, based on European shamanism but with bits added from many different systems.

I repeat, not all Wiccans cast spells, and there are many many different "branches" of Wicca.
Title: white magic
Post by: KoolGZe on October 15, 2003, 07:18:23
I was talking specifically about spells.
Title: white magic
Post by: Aristoles on October 15, 2003, 07:43:02
I follow a god,i just dont know who yet :)
Title: white magic
Post by: Lilith on October 15, 2003, 11:56:08
Ah.
Then you perhaps meant to say "some people", rather than "wiccans"?
No disrespect intended, but you seem to be saying that people who cast "spells" are misguided or deluded or such.
quote:
I suppose wiccans believe that if they write some rhymes about a certain subject and then sing it or read it with firm devotion they will somehow have magical power. Do you honestly think things work like that?

What's the difference between saying a rhyme with intent or prayer, and following a formulaic ritual?

As it happens, the Wiccans I know beleive that we *all* have access to magic, that many people use it without intentional knowledge of spell-casting, and that in fact, the stronger the intent and focus, the better the "magician" can manipulate magic, thus self-discipline is a necessary component to successful magic, regardless of which system is used.
Title: white magic
Post by: KoolGZe on October 15, 2003, 13:17:02
Sorry for using a less correct term then. Still tell me, do you personally believe spells can work that way?
Title: white magic
Post by: Lilith on October 15, 2003, 13:47:33
yup.
[:D]
The human mind is a powerful thing.
[;)]
Title: white magic
Post by: EyesOfVengeance on October 11, 2003, 15:41:04

Hey I want to become a wicca and I was wondering what are some good beginning spells? Of course I refuse to do anything that is Satanic, evil, and harm others so forget it.

thanks [;)]