hello all astral projection vets i seek your help

[newtoastralprojection]

I am new to the forum and in need to astral project i seek your help i can't seem to ap because i try and i can't stop thinking about random things or thoughts and when i was close to succeeding and  i failed at it because I got scared and opened my eyes and after that i never was able to get to that point again and i was ready to give up after months of googling and learning and trying i found this website and hopefully i can ap sometime soon also are there any techniques that don't require visual imagining or too much remembering because my memory is off a bit and another thing can i ap without closing my eyes and by the way I tried the mind awake body asleep which i hear is the most non complicated method and is the one i was talking about that i only came close to success once and later unable to do again can some one tell me how i can get the feelings i felt about the method and have success for real and not almost there thanks.

[personalreality]

i'm pretty sure that is one long sentence.  kudos.

try this.  no visualization required.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/how_i_got_out_for_the_first_time-t30942.0.html;msg251045#msg251045

[Greytraveller]

Hallo to newtoastralprojection
Unfortunately not everyone can have an OBE within the first few days, or weeks, of trying. For some the wait until that first OBE can last many weeks or months. (My first happened nearly half a year after starting)
So the best advice (and I have given this to many others beside yourself) is perserverance. If you want the OBE bad enough it will happen, given time. Many times the first OBE happens when a person least expects. Stay with it and good luck.

Regards 
Grey

[Xanth]

Hi there newtoastralprojection,

Welcome to the forums.  I hope you find what you're looking for.