Hello new member, sorry if this is in the wrong place. I am 22 from england ive before had one out of body experience when i was about 19 however this was when on holiday in a static caravan after drinking alchohol and smoking a joint of canabis to myself it didnt take long to realise i was actually looking at my self from above and could move around the caravan freely, i used to smoke alot of canabis when i was around 18-20 as alot of youths do , i no longer smoke it now though. So i belive they can happen as ive had one however this is what brings me to the forum i have maybe three times tred to have the same experience since without drink or alchohol i have on the first 2 attemtps gotten to the vibrational stage but couldnt go any further than that however litterly about ten minites ago i tried it agian and got to a stage where i felt i could lift out if i pushed however this fell through and i failed it seemed i was using muscle rather than mind and that must of disturbed it and took me back to sqaure one. Im looking for advice on how to get past this stage and hopefully have another experience, Im sorry if my spelling is not very good aswell and also is it normall to feel a bit werid after you have attempted in the means of heavy headed ?
Thank you for taking time to read
could i also add that i used to phone maybe five or ten minites before attemempting the recent one where i reached somesort of seperation stage and when i got up i looked at the phone and an hour must of past so it took me atleast 40 minites to 60 mintes to reach that stage and it felt like i was led down for seconds
can anyone help?
Hi and welcome to the Pulse.
You seem to be working at this with some knowledge of how to get out.
I have posted a method which you may find useful. There's many more too. Have a read and see how it fits your technique.
There's also a good search function on this site that helps with specific items.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_astral_blueprint-t38729.0.html
Thank you ill have a look and read, doubt ill be able to attempt for atleast another week as like to do it when i have a empty house
Hi here tryingtoobe! Welcome to the forum.
First, I'd like to point out that this isn't a chat room... it can take people many hours, or even days before they respond to you. Please don't bump your posts in such a way. :)
I'd like to also point you to the Search function which appears at the top of just about every page on this forum. This forum has been active for well over 10 years now, and as such, has a lot of knowledge in the posts that have been made throughout that time. Please do a quick search with words you think might apply, and see if you can find something.
Goodluck and, once again, welcome to the Astral Pulse! :)
thank you and sorry you had to move my thread. Would you advice having another atempt before bedtime or is it not wise?
Quote from: tryingtoobe on March 10, 2013, 18:31:27
thank you and sorry you had to move my thread. Would you advice having another atempt before bedtime or is it not wise?
As long as you think you can relax, there is no wrong time to try. But understand that if your are too stressed over something and can't clear your mind, you will most likely not succeed at that moment.
Success comes when the belief that it will happen is stronger than the disbelief.
Greetings and welcome tryingtoobe
Many people have a spontaneous OBE after using alcohol (or other mind altering substances). And this includes myself BTW :wink:. A conscious deliberately induced OBE is quite possible yet it is easier for some people than others. There are plenty of techniques and methods to do this. It might require some time and, above all, patience. So if it takes some time then try to be positive and stick with it.
Good luck 8-)
Grey
Welcome! I usually have 0% luck after drinking alcohol. And I've heard that cannabis is a deterrent for it, too. You can really try any time you are relaxed. :) No harm in it. The search option is amazing and also the sticky posts.
Just to say i tried again last night with good sucsess up untill i got to the seperation bit which i felt like i could of done it but my body felt really heavy and felt as something was stopping me get out and then i ruined the trance by using muscle tension to try and push my self out i find it very hard to imagine a rope or anything else as its just blackness, i feel that i am very very close to achiving it and wont stop untill i do as i know it can happen however the time it happened for me was a drug induced out of the blue and tbh cannot remember a huge detail about how i got there it justr happened and left me thinking wow
Quote from: tryingtoobe on March 11, 2013, 17:50:51
Just to say i tried again last night with good sucsess up untill i got to the seperation bit which i felt like i could of done it but my body felt really heavy and felt as something was stopping me get out and then i ruined the trance by using muscle tension to try and push my self out i find it very hard to imagine a rope or anything else as its just blackness, i feel that i am very very close to achiving it and wont stop untill i do as i know it can happen however the time it happened for me was a drug induced out of the blue and tbh cannot remember a huge detail about how i got there it justr happened and left me thinking wow
I don't know why everyone tries so hard to "climb out of the body", when you can just create a visual scenario and join it.
I find that "climbing out of the body" will hinder you more than help. Like you said, if you aren't ready or at the point of separating, any climbing a rope motion or attempting to "pull or push" yourself out is going to result in you tensing up, which in turn totally destroys what you have been trying to accomplish.
When you create a scenario and join it, there is no tensing up. You just simply ALLOW it to manifest vividly before you and when you are ready to, you join it.
This is what I mean I say SURRENDER TO and ALLOW what happens to happen. If you have created a strong enough intent, you WILL be successful.
I just find it very hard to imagine anything atall apart from the blackness in my eyes its a pain cos it feels like its going to right way and im so close
I agree with the post above. More people would probably be able to go OBE if they just surrender to the unknown of taking the first plunge into NPR.
My sleep paralysis episodes would have gone much nicer if I surrendered instead of fighting with my body, trying to force myself to either move or climb out of it.
The strain you create when you do this probably takes away from the mental concentration needed to go OBE.
Your brain will be too distracted with the task of trying to force movement and whatnot. That in itself is very distracting.
A guide on the astral once told me that the key to going OBE is to just stay 100% still, focusing on raising the vibrations (I start from the feet and work them up), and simply visualizing the scenario you want to find yourself in and projecting into it. It has more to do with the mind than the physical strain of trying to break the bonds.
Right before AP, it's VERY common to go into a state where your muscles completely turn into jello and you will likely fall into a paralysis. This is normal. This is your body falling asleep. It happens every night. When we go to sleep, we turn limp, and go into paralysis. If you want to separate by going into AP that way, you merely put your body to sleep but keep your mind awake. Don't try to break out of the physical restraints. Yes, it's going to fell like you're heavy and like you can't move. If you don't fight this sensation, and just lay still, you can try directing 100% of your energy into mentally shifting your consciousness out of there and somewhere else. If you're too focused on trying to move or push yourself out, you're going to find it will hinder your ability to do what you set out to do.
I think what it comes down to is you need to spend more time reading the many helpful "stickies" here on this Forum.
Try to "see through" what everyone is saying and develop a technique that works for you.
Trial, error and practice. Those are the 3 stepping stones to success! :-)
well im going to be trying agian shortly concentrating on trying to roll rather than go up or use a rope i also find other than going heavy i feel very small and shrunken almost, feel very warm and flat like a piece of paper
ive done it before ive experienced how great it is to look down on your self from above so i know i can do it agian its just getting it right so ill keep trying this website is very usefull
Check out this helpful PDF. http://shopofenlightenment.com/forum/66astralprojectiontechniques.pdf
There, now you have 66 techniques to aide you. Try one every night and find out what works the best for you.
...66 night's later the answer is ???????????
brilliant ill have a look. got really close last night agian but it got almost annoying and i just had to move as i was aching almost
Actually, try one a month.
That should keep you busy for several years. :)
Quote from: Xanth on March 14, 2013, 21:01:03
Actually, try one a month.
That should keep you busy for several years. :)
You know the best advice is only realized as so, after success. That's something every beginner should really try to understand.
"A smart person learns from their own mistakes. A wise person learns from the mistakes of others and can avoid making some of their own"-from someone wiser than me.
ive been trying everynight since i fist made this post and have not got there yet, i dont even feel the vibrations anymore just feel numb and is this due to trying to often should i forgett about for a while it and do it less often twice i have woken up at say 4am and attemptged but leaves me feeling numb and like im progressing untill say an hour passes and i find ive fallen asleep agian
Quote from: tryingtoobe on March 26, 2013, 15:19:48
ive been trying everynight since i fist made this post and have not got there yet, i dont even feel the vibrations anymore just feel numb and is this due to trying to often should i forgett about for a while it and do it less often twice i have woken up at say 4am and attemptged but leaves me feeling numb and like im progressing untill say an hour passes and i find ive fallen asleep agian
Don't get frustrated. It can take years for some people while others have reported success on their first attempt. Besides, you have to pass the time somehow from when you lay down until you fall asleep so there's no harm in not giving up. It took me about a month or a little longer. I think the average seems to be about two months or so.
Have you tried lucid dreaming as a way of projecting? Many people have their first success this way and they find it easier to phase. It works like that because their belief is strengthened. Have you caught on to this whole theme of believing yet? It works wonders. :wink:
It can't hurt to take a break from actively trying to project. Just don't lose you goal. You know...come to think of it, many people have had success after they took a break and stopped actively trying to phase.
Don't worry about all the physical sensations that people associate with projecting. You can feel them all or feel none of them and still project. You may even feel different combinations each time. The only importance anything has to projecting is the importance you give it.
Good luck and keep exploring.
Quote from: tryingtoobe on March 26, 2013, 15:19:48
ive been trying everynight since i fist made this post and have not got there yet, i dont even feel the vibrations anymore just feel numb and is this due to trying to often should i forgett about for a while it and do it less often twice i have woken up at say 4am and attemptged but leaves me feeling numb and like im progressing untill say an hour passes and i find ive fallen asleep agian
Don't be discouraged! I have been trying for months to have a conscious obe in the evening and it hasn't happened yet. But that doesn't mean I haven't had plenty of excellent experiences in the non physical! There are other ways to get there such as within dreams. Sometimes if I stop trying suddenly it will have a spontaneous obe. Also, I've had much better luck in the mornings. Just keep yourself open :D
The vibrations do go away and it turns into numbness. I have my theories as to why this happens but I won't speculate.. just know that you are on the right track.. and you don't always need to experience vibrations in order to have an experience. As a matter of fact most of the experiences I've had so far did not accompany any vibratory effects.
I used to try to separate the same way, sometimes realizing I was trying to move physical muscle. And then after every experience I would have (which came very infrequently, few and far apart) I realized it was the mental state I was in, coupled with physical relaxation, that led to the experience. Most of the experiences I've had came from me doing very little to nothing and came about by just being in the right state of mind. This has led me to completely give up on trying to separate from my body, doing all these techniques, and trying to have out of body experiences.. to focusing more on phasing because phasing focuses more on attaining the proper state of mind that is necessary for projection and inner exploration. This forum has very good details and tips about phasing so I would suggest searching around.
im not giving up nor am i disbeliving as ive done it before alough that was in a cannabis and achachol induced state so i know it will happen agian, im thinking of trying binural beats on some headphones as apparantly they can be helpfull
well this moring i had a obe by accedent, i had a very late night and was woken at 8am by sisters going to school and for a very brief second i was just over by sleeping body but litterly for a split second then back in and felt like i was awoken and eating my breakfast even tho i woke up at 2pm today. this obe was accedent as i was tired last night and didnt even try to induce it i just fell asleep.