Hey guys what's up?

[D1git4l]

So first off I'd like to say that I'm new and what's up!

I've been trying for a long time now to teach myself to astral project (without any luck of course) and am excited to have found this website! I haven't really browsed through everything yet but so far I really like the look of things and hopefully I'll find something that might help me out!

So if anyone has any suggestions on anything it would be awesome if you could point me in the right direction! I'm always open to new ideas and experiences.

Thanks and I'll see ya around!

[Xanth]

Hi there

Feel free to post any question you might have in it's appropriate forum section.

Welcome to the Pulse.

~Ryan

[phxsun]

Hey D1git4l

Welcome to AP.......Ask lots of questions someone will always answer.

Enjoy

daniel

[Timandra]

Hey! Welcome to the Astral Pulse!
You could start browsing and reading the Permanent Astral Topics, that's one of the directions that may help you. 

[Psilibus]

So first off I'd like to say that I'm new and what's up!

I've been trying for a long time now to teach myself to astral project (without any luck of course) and am excited to have found this website! I haven't really browsed through everything yet but so far I really like the look of things and hopefully I'll find something that might help me out!

So if anyone has any suggestions on anything it would be awesome if you could point me in the right direction! I'm always open to new ideas and experiences.

Thanks and I'll see ya around!

Yes I am glad you are here. What they said. Read up and post.

Question - why did you say "(without any luck of course)"? I think that will be a great place for you to start!

[D1git4l]

Thanks for all of your feedback guys it actually helps a lot! And I'm just kind of looking everywhere at random on this site until I figure out what's cool and what will help (which is probably everything xD).

Yes I am glad you are here. What they said. Read up and post.

Question - why did you say "(without any luck of course)"? I think that will be a great place for you to start!

I said that because I don't have any skill haha, just kidding. But that's basically it... no luck. So I guess that is a good place to start! There's a ton of information on this site so it's going to take me awhile but I'll get it figured out eventually so thanks!

[Yin]

You either will or won't based upon the mental conditions set by yourself, I don't see how luck has anything to do with it.

[personalreality]

Welcome.

Whatever you do, DON'T READ ANYTHING ABOUT FRANK OR PHASING.

lol

jk.

read about frank and phasing.

seems like the cool thing to do round here lately, give it a try.

[Psilibus]

You either will or won't based upon the mental conditions set by yourself, I don't see how luck has anything to do with it.

What I was getting at, but, only from the standpoint that luck WON'T do it. I'm sure D1git4l knows that though, right?

Just the fact you are here means you are open to the idea. That will help you be successful. Not without patience and perseverance though. Practice is key. Knowledge doesn't hurt either. And hey, if your lucky...

[Yin]

Let me add on that, from what I've seen many beginners simply try a technique and they either manage to project with it or get frustrated and give up.  Those who do manage to project with it after several tries feel it as being luck since to them they did the exact sequence they did before only this time for some reason it worked so they continue that same sequence again. All that I ask is if you do manage to project please note to yourself what was different this time than the others that allowed you to project and progress based on that, as is said, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Additionally, if you find you were able to seemingly progress farther than before note what was different, basically, each time you make progress note what was different from before that allowed such progress and use that progress as a "check point" which will ensure even greater progress since that check point will now be easier to reach. A lot of techniques also do not introduce any prerequisite states with other conditions that must be met, and give the reader the idea that they are to move from waking consciousness to another area all in one swift stroke without being aware of the other mental states that you must pass through with conscious awareness. From what I understand this is because those that are experienced aren't consciously aware of them passing through those states anymore as they do so so fast which is a major pitfall for those learning how to project as they have yet to even experience such states. I would advise that you study the pivot focus points, what they are and what one should experience during them as the duration of the technique used will be in order to reach such states, these are the f10/f12 states to me at least, or maybe others would say f10, as any state after that is essentially another area of consciousness. This is probably where my monroe/frank overlap differs from Frank's as I don't see focuses 3-10 as being in f2 but still in f1, maybe in an f1/f2 overlay as we are always in such when in the physical until the physical body ceases to exist, but definitely not totally phased into f2. Be aware that your method is ever evolving based upon your own experience.

[D1git4l]

What I was getting at, but, only from the standpoint that luck WON'T do it. I'm sure D1git4l knows that though, right?

Just the fact you are here means you are open to the idea. That will help you be successful. Not without patience and perseverance though. Practice is key. Knowledge doesn't hurt either. And hey, if your lucky...

Yeah, I do know that luck won't do anything for me (I was kind of leaning more towards sarcasm with my last comment). And yes patience and perseverance are definitely key (they are also my specialty). I'm an artist so I know patience and I certainly know perseverance through trial and error. And hey, if I'm lucky, I just might find what I'm looking for .

Let me add on that, from what I've seen many beginners simply try a technique and they either manage to project with it or get frustrated and give up.  Those who do manage to project with it after several tries feel it as being luck since to them they did the exact sequence they did before only this time for some reason it worked so they continue that same sequence again. All that I ask is if you do manage to project please note to yourself what was different this time than the others that allowed you to project and progress based on that, as is said, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Additionally, if you find you were able to seemingly progress farther than before note what was different, basically, each time you make progress note what was different from before that allowed such progress and use that progress as a "check point" which will ensure even greater progress since that check point will now be easier to reach. A lot of techniques also do not introduce any prerequisite states with other conditions that must be met, and give the reader the idea that they are to move from waking consciousness to another area all in one swift stroke without being aware of the other mental states that you must pass through with conscious awareness. From what I understand this is because those that are experienced aren't consciously aware of them passing through those states anymore as they do so so fast which is a major pitfall for those learning how to project as they have yet to even experience such states. I would advise that you study the pivot focus points, what they are and what one should experience during them as the duration of the technique used will be in order to reach such states, these are the f10/f12 states to me at least, or maybe others would say f10, as any state after that is essentially another area of consciousness. This is probably where my monroe/frank overlap differs from Frank's as I don't see focuses 3-10 as being in f2 but still in f1, maybe in an f1/f2 overlay as we are always in such when in the physical until the physical body ceases to exist, but definitely not totally phased into f2. Be aware that your method is ever evolving based upon your own experience.

Well as far as checking my progress and seeing what was different the next time I try it I've done a fairly good job at doing just that (although probably not as much as I should be). The technique I've been using is something along the lines of going from what you called a "waking consciousness" to whatever step I have to take next which I don't know and which is why I'm on this site so that I may learn it. One thing I've noticed is that I can handle lying perfectly still for a longer amount of time when trying the technique than when I first started out. And as for the pivot focus points I have an idea of what you're talking about but once you started saying "f1/f2", "3-10", "f10, etc. I honestly have to say that you completely lost me so I'm going to have to work on those (good thing summer vacation just started because now I have all the time in the world). Thanks for the advice, I'll put it to good use!

[Psilibus]

D1git4l  -  "And as for the pivot focus points I have an idea of what you're talking about but once you started saying "f1/f2", "3-10", "f10, etc. I honestly have to say that you completely lost me so I'm going to have to work on those (good thing summer vacation just started because now I have all the time in the world)."

I always get lost there too and I've been doing this for thirty years. While you won't hear me talking about focus/phase/levels I do recommend learning that information. It will help you communicate here . The comment on journaling is crucial. I believe journaling has helped solidify my memories of experiences, what works, what doesn't...

[Yin]

Well as far as checking my progress and seeing what was different the next time I try it I've done a fairly good job at doing just that (although probably not as much as I should be). The technique I've been using is something along the lines of going from what you called a "waking consciousness" to whatever step I have to take next which I don't know and which is why I'm on this site so that I may learn it. One thing I've noticed is that I can handle lying perfectly still for a longer amount of time when trying the technique than when I first started out. And as for the pivot focus points I have an idea of what you're talking about but once you started saying "f1/f2", "3-10", "f10, etc. I honestly have to say that you completely lost me so I'm going to have to work on those (good thing summer vacation just started because now I have all the time in the world). Thanks for the advice, I'll put it to good use!

That's fine, they're just mental states that are labeled by others based upon their view of the model of reality. If you want to get a decent idea I would look at Frank's resource guide, and Monroe's hemi-sync focus states. Honestly saying f10,f12, f4000 doesn't really matter, in the end I only proposed them to you so that if you were intrigued you could research and have a greater understanding of the possibilities that nonphysical reality can encompass. I've just come to find its easier to take the process as subtlety as possible and the greater the expectations the more you will try to force it and the less you will actually accomplish. I don't really ever talk about focus level in such depth either, it was only to refer to a pivot point, which I don't even know of focus levels so much to know which one it truly would be, but, it is either focus 10 or 12, lol, I would just like to stress this - Be aware that your method is ever evolving based upon your own experience.

here is some information I found helpful
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/the_frank_kepple_phasing_resource_is_now_available-t25805.0.html
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/franks_posts_pdf-t31449.0.html
http://www.monroeinstitute.org/hemi-sync/overview-of-focus-levels/
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/focus_10_mind_awakebody_asleep-t24783.0.html
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/jeffs_obe_tips-t23976.0.html