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Title: Helloes. Fears.
Post by: cardio on January 21, 2006, 06:57:56
Hello everybody!

I'm 25, I've been having astral experiences all my life. I've read a lot of books about the subject. I have every night good sensations to abandon my body.
There's only one trouble: FEAR!

I'm trying to transcend my fear.
I've taken some attitudes like: look for fear's causes and stare at them while I study myself. But it doesn't work by now. I don't want to extend more here with my results, but I'd like to share them.

I've surfed in this web, and I see fear is the greatest problem for everybody, but I haven't seen other solution than experience.
What about if fear doesn't let you get experiences?

I know there are no easy solutions, but maybe you can put me in the right place (right forum...), to work with other people on this matter and help each other, and maybe, to develop some good technique to destroy fear. Does anybody know some technique?
Every help, from everybody, will be welcome.

Thanks for this web site!
Laister arte! (Goodbye!)
Title: Helloes. Fears.
Post by: Lighthouse on January 21, 2006, 08:49:48
In order to combat your fear, you need to look it in the eye and have a startedown.  If you run away from your fear or pretend it doesn't exist, you only keep it in place.  By running AT the train, it disappears.  Nay posted this in another thread, here's the thread and the quote:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21828&highlight=

QuoteI wasn't scared, infact now that I think about it, I wasn't scared at any point...just really...focused. Next thing I know, he is flying at me at a great speed, jumps on me, pulls me to the ground, gets on top of me and holds me down. He gets my mouth open, but without using his hands. Take that however you want to, cause I'm not even sure....I've never had it happen. *shrugs*

I then know he is going to attempt to bite my friggin tongue out. His head comes down and he clamps down on my tongue, I felt nothing and I actually questioned that in my mind, for a split second. I can't explain this...but it's like I'm thinking so fast, yet I'm not thinking at all and just reacting... does that make sense?? But I digress. He was going to pull back his head, with part of my tongue in his mouth. You see, it wasn't quite bitten off completely and he knew this.

Here's the funny part...well, at least to me it is. I took my right hand* grabbed the back of his head and pressed it even harder to my mouth. He couldn't get away and at that very moment the tables were turned. His fear was instantaneous... I couldn't see squat because of his face right on my face but I could just imagine his eyes popping out of his head!  He attempted to pull away a few times. At this point, he melted away and I popped my eyes open and was looking at my ceiling.

Experiences in the astral or in our dreaming state are no different than in our waking state, only they happen more rapidly.  WE are making it all up and if you have a fear you are not addressing head on, it will keep coming back to haunt you until you do.  There is nothing to fear because we are making it all up, it's a big dream we're living in so may as well make it a good one.

Kerri
Title: Helloes. Fears.
Post by: cardio on January 21, 2006, 12:17:43
Hi Kerri!

Thank you for answering. I'm doing what you say:
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In order to combat your fear, you need to look it in the eye and have a startedown.

I put my attention in the eye... but what's the eye?  

I am in bed, filling surrounded whistles, my hand fingers bending up, my energy body swelling. I see this, I feel fear and I see myself feeling fear.

When I put my attention in my bending fingers, I think about next steep, out of body, and I get nervous. I know rationally there is no danger, etc., but fear is not rational.
Is it possible not thinking in the future?
Can I reach that?
To put my attention in the future can be the solution? I think it could be worse. I'll try anyway.  

I've tried to put my attention  in only one of my feelings(whistles or bending fingers), but as those are not isolated, is very difficult to do that. The variety of feeling, and their changeable sensations, leads me to the "future".

Saludos.
Title: Helloes. Fears.
Post by: cardio on January 22, 2006, 07:16:04
Hello,

I carry this subject to integral philosophy forum!

Agur.