Saying hello and have a few questions!

[astral towers]

Hi all! Im excited to be a part of this community, as I have had many of strange experiences throughout my life and astral projection has been some of the most profound. Lately I have been having some very strange coincidences and experiences that eventually led to some strange dream/astral experiences so I decided its time I take this wild bull by the horns and figure out how to tame it and possibly utilize it for my benefit.

I don't know if there are many others like me here but I have had the issue of being FORCED into SP and AP if I sleep on my back. Basically I have avoided this since I started having these freaky experiences in my teens. Sometimes I still end up in SP leading to strange and often frightening experiences. Are there any others here that are plagued/blessed with this?

The reason I have yet to experiment with this is a lingering fear of the unknown. I cant seem to completely shake this. I really want to project but that time frame un which you find yourself paralyzed scares me...I always feel as though theres something there with me and I just feel vulnerable. Anyway I decided the last few nights that I was going to start working through this...I slept on my back about a week ago and experienced a sort of "mock" astral projection (Ill make a thread about it soon) in which I dreampt lucidly that I was projecting but it clearly wasn't the real deal. Either way it was a step in the right direction....

So a few nights ago I attempted to again sleep on my back....I found myself starting to get the vivid imagry and a some pressure on my forehead....a few mins later it felt as if the front of my skull was no longer there and there was a direct heat source applied to my "brain". I then saw a bright white light coming down from above on my mental screen..from the direction of my forhead. All these sensations began getting TOO intense and the fear of a premature kundalini awakening entered my mind, so I said "that's enough for tonight, baby steps"...I then turned on my side and fell asleep like normal. Although I had some vivid dreams that night. (Intuitively I felt like it was my third eye activaying/opening and it was getting to be too intense)

So another thing that I have always seemed to experience which seems pretty paranormal is vibrations. Im not talking about the ones when youre in an altered state/sleep paralysis. Instead Im referring to these mild buzzing or vibrations in various parts of my body. Sometimes my lips , my legs, etc. Its very gentle ..almost as if a bumble bee is caught inside...but intuitivey they DO NOT feel like a physical affliction. They feel like an ethereal vibration to me. These occur often and have been occurring whether I experience any anomalous dream occurances or not. They happen in awake normal conciosuness when Im tired and lying in bed but not in hypnogic ...When Im in hypnogogic the REAL vibrations occur and those are clearly more disturbing. Anyway these mild ones often feel like tiny ongoing earthquakes. I can even feel the bed subtly vibrating. Ive even had other people that shared the bed with me agree that they have felt these vibrations coming from me. Ive kept this basically to myself for over a decade...UNTIL NOW. Because I never really related it to any astral phenomena until I started really thinking about it and trying to research the web. Does anyone have experience with this anomaly?

And my final question is I know that astral projection can be very entertaining and even add spiritual depth to the human experience but is there any benefits you recieve in the physical? Perhaps something along the lines of how a daily meditation practice can reduce negative emotions and improve concentration and mental clarity? Does AP help with anything like that? ALSO Do you get better at viewing REAL physical events or are they always a crap shoot. In other words does years of training and experience help you stay in Real Time Zone longer viewing real things in real time? Like any other activity your focus and clarity increases with practice , doe it in this way with AP?

Thanks for taking the time to read my intro and hopefully answer a few of my questions to help begin my journey!

[soarin12]

Hi and Welcome!       I can relate to your problem of being 'forced' into SP when lying on your back.  For awhile I even had trouble while on my side.  I had a lot of energy sensations while awake during the day.  It felt like bees were buzzing inside my head.  Also pressure in my head.  It was a difficult time for me.  The hypnogogia before I projected was often frightening and all of it together made me afraid I was going crazy! 

All I can say is that this community helped me greatly.  Just knowing I wasn't alone was important in getting over my fears.  I had been doing meditative prayer every day for months prior to all the 'energy action' and I had no idea the effects could be so strange.  Some people just get hit harder with it than others.  In time things evened out for me.  I sometimes still get a little fearful when I phase but it's rare now.

AP has definitely enriched my physical life.  I feel more joyful, balanced, and enjoy a very meditative life style.  As long as one doesn't become addicted to it and start ignoring areas of their physical life, it is a blessing and helps to add a sense of wonder and appreciation to all the little things in life.  You can even have some powerful love and oneness experiences (like in NDEs) that are dramatically life changing.

[EscapeVelocity]

Hello astral towers and welcome!

I will second the benefits, both spiritual and physical that soarin12 is describing. If you are a reasonably mature and balanced individual then AP should benefit you in many ways.

From your post, it sounds like you are taking a steady and reasoned approach to AP. The energetic sensations, vibes and third-eye activation are fairly normal and a good sign of your progress. I thought this reply to another poster might give you a little more perspective on some possible reasons for some of the SP phenomena you may encounter.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/strange_night_for_the_whole_family-t45346.0.html;msg353652#msg353652

There is also this which explains very well the physical side of SP:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/everything_you_could_ever_want_to_know_about_sleep_paralysis-t38734.0.html

Being knowledgeable of and prepared for the first few times you venture oob will go a long way to minimizing any fear issues you are already becoming aware of. Just be confident that you are safe and protected. Say a prayer or an affirmation declaring your protected status; that should help. Part of the trepidation you are currently experiencing may also have to do with an internal permission-giving that you are processing; I hope that makes sense.

Please keep us informed of your progress! Have fun!

[astral towers]

Hey thanks to both of you guys for the advice and info....Im curious if both of you feel theres some sort of universal laws that one becomes aware of after Aping for awhile.....intuitively I have had several spiritual beliefs that seem  to have just "come to me" one is that imagination/creativity IS GOD....that we are just simply manifestations of this... and that all realities EVEN atheism are pieces to the puzzle...that the astral plane is simply molded after all thoughts by all living creatures everywhere. This seems like its a bit to precise and personal belief to be replicated by someone else....last night I stumbled upon some information that was highlighting my spiritual beliefs to a T..and I have never heard anyone describe this as a possible scenario....and guess what? This came to other astral travelers as a universal truth... I just thought that was interesting. Thanks again for the info I will check the links you poseted now!


EDIT By the way Id like to add how embaressed I am for "scientific" assumptions for what these vibrations that Im experiencing are...it seems that others have written in to MD websites about experiences that sound similar to mine and I have found that they seem to explain it away as fibromyalgia and/or neurological problems...I rememeber when I first started experiencing some of this stuff in my teens . I rememeber being told that I was mentally ill for having sleep paralysis....I think that I belived it so I tried to suppress it even though at a gut level I knew in my heart that there was more to it.


I find it interesting that when science comes to a conclusion that their theories are NOT 100% accurate , that there are exceptions to their rules ...they simply ignore them and assume there MUST be a "logical" explanation. A good example is the way Einstein behaved when he discovered "spooky action at a distance". This is a wonderful example of how scientific dogma can really skew ones perspective out of fear of a severe paradigm shift. Einstein simply COULD NOT accept some of the findings in quantum physics. He was determined to find a "logical" explanation and would not accept the other possibility. I feel this is the same with much of the paranormal occurances...especially in relation to AP. When one APs and finds that many of the objects in the physical are different in the astral BUT EVEN FINDS ONE artifact that he is able to confirm on the physical ...THAT IS ENOUGH for us to assume that there is something to this and it makes it all the more interesting that way....confusing but interesting. If one is able to make even A FEW predictions far beyond chance while out of body it simply is enough to warrant further investigation into the "paranormal". Just my opinion.

[soarin12]

Universal laws I have experienced -  Thought creates.  Anything you need, desire, imagine, believe in  -anything that resonates with you will become your reality.  Experiencing this instantaneously in non-physical reality can really awaken one to assess their beliefs and get rid of the ones that don't serve them.  Those who resonate with fear and anger get a real quick lesson in this when they AP!  If love is what resonates with you then you can experience the most amazing life changing love and bliss in the NP.  To me, this is God.  I also like what you said about God being creativity/imagination and us being a manifestation of that! 

There seem to be different realms with different rule sets (just like our physical world has rules) in he NP.  So say you find yourself in a certain reality and you want to experience love -or the 'super love' as I sometimes call it.  You may not be able to experience it there if it doesn't happen to be part of the 'rules' of that world.  That's why I pray/hold intent for what I want to experience before I project.  It gives me a much better chance of landing in a realm with a rule set that matches what I desired.