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Mustardseed

Some people define a cult as a group that tries to somehow brainwash people into their point of view, by cohesion. In this case that Big Mac is the "saviour" and Whopper is the "enemy". A rather ridiculous example of cause. However I do find that The AP is very top heavy, or at least have been in the past. Some of you new folks have not seen this in action, but some of of those who have been here a while have. Many people have left the board because of this issue. 

There has been several attempts of hostile take overs and a very consentrated harassment of folks who did not follow the "party line"

As I said lets define Cult and discuss it
Words.....there was a time when I believed in words!

Sharpe

Let's look at it objectively.

Cult's are build by extremely intelligent people that machiavellisticly use people without feelings towards them.
Because, they have no need to feel the simple emotions humans have learned today.
They know that good and evil is just an idea, and not something to be taken seriously.
They know the rules of what is good and what is evil though, but they know how to use these rules to make people do what they want.
And when they control all these people, they have an incredible ammount of power, more powerful than money or law.
There's nothing more powerful than being able to control a certain ammount of humans.
Some people forget that money and laws were made by humans, if you control humans, you allready have the power, no need for money or law.
Money is just a piece of paper.

Mez

Quote from: Sharpe on September 13, 2007, 15:12:35
Right. And here I was thinking conspiracy theories had gone out of style.

lol. Thats not a conspiracy or a theory. Its fact. Not too hard to understand either.

Awakened_Mind

Cult? Oh... so where do I go to audition for Harry Potter then?

-AM
Truth exists beyond the dimension of thought.

greggkroodsma

Ok, living is not a cult.  Eating is not a cult. Discovering what the body can do is not a cult.  A cult is built around fantasy.  Making people believe that the body can do things that it can't is fantasy.  Everybody cannot do AP or even have internal sight because it takes years of practice, but after the practice it can definitely be done. 

Mez

Quote from: greggkroodsma on September 15, 2007, 10:29:20
Everybody cannot do AP or even have internal sight because it takes years of practice, but after the practice it can definitely be done. 

Thats a contradiction. Of course everyone can do AP... for some people it can take years but others only weeks or maybe months.

Sharpe

Don't worry Mez, I was just quoting max payne :-D, seemed like a good oppertunity!
My parents are kinda in the whole freemasons thing, but they just don't know anything of world domination, maybe because of the pyramid style degrees. I dunno.

greggkroodsma

Quote from: Mez on September 16, 2007, 04:57:45
Thats a contradiction. Of course everyone can do AP... for some people it can take years but others only weeks or maybe months.

It makes more sense if you don't fantasize about it out of context.   What I meant was the people who can't do it right away think it to be a fantasy and therefore a cult., but after some practise they can do it.

Quote from: greggkroodsma on September 15, 2007, 10:29:20
Ok, living is not a cult.  Eating is not a cult. Discovering what the body can do is not a cult.  A cult is built around fantasy.  Making people believe that the body can do things that it can't is fantasy.  Everybody cannot do AP or even have internal sight because it takes years of practice, but after the practice it can definitely be done. 


Awakened_Mind

I think people who don't AP shouldn't be forced into learning how to do it or even of its existence in the first place. Nor should the people who can AP, be told that they cannot.

-AM
Truth exists beyond the dimension of thought.

Mez

Quote from: Awakened_Mind on September 16, 2007, 14:12:42
I think people who don't AP shouldn't be forced into learning how to do it or even of its existence in the first place. Nor should the people who can AP, be told that they cannot.

-AM

well put.

Quote from: greggkroodsma on September 16, 2007, 08:51:32
It makes more sense if you don't fantasize about it out of context.   What I meant was the people who can't do it right away think it to be a fantasy and therefore a cult., but after some practise they can do it.

ahh understood.

Im always willing to tell people about it who are interested.

Attention creates interest and interest prolongs attention...
So if i mention it to someone and they are interested i'll always tell them all i can about it.
However if i mention it to them and they are not interested i do not continue to continue the conversation or to bring it up a lot. Its just a waste of energy. As for people who dont believe it because they cant do it at first...
The attention has created the interest and it the interest seems to be prolonging the attention so anyone who wants to debate its existence is free to do so. There are times when I see it as a waste of time and energy debating it and there are times when it is useful to debate it.

In debating all we know about these subjects it forces us to explore them further and understand them firmer and it brings to us new information. So there are definately times when debating things like this are beneficial to us. But I definately agree with AM.

Moron27

Quote from: Awakened_Mind on September 16, 2007, 14:12:42
I think people who don't AP shouldn't be forced into learning how to do it or even of its existence in the first place. Nor should the people who can AP, be told that they cannot.

-AM

Dude, I totally agree...  I found out about all this just this week, but I just happened to come across it on my own, through a bizarre series of events.  It's without a doubt a personal thing.
Feels good to finally wake up...

Astir

That's a silly statement. It could be considered a cult if you weren't welcome to leave anytime if you don't like it. But you are. :-P lol.

Undali


childreamz

Unfortunately, you don't realize... that every attractive and calculated group endeavor is a CULT. We all do it, some of us fail to recognize such behavior in our brothers and sisters as anything beyond mere curiosity or that it must always have to be strangely occult or extremely in-yer-face and nutso, soul-suckingly dangerous to one's health. Those newsgrabbing, end-of-times organizations are sensationalizing and apocalyptic, but most of us are only too happy to mine the ure, from our own personal cult, without doing any harm.  That said, just don't ask me for money, I'm perpetually broke.    :-P

Awakened_Mind

Seems to be a matter of definition. I don't think we are fanatical enough to be called a cult, we don't hide from society this is a public forum. There's no money involved, no leader etc. No sacred rituals that are continued. No one is sacrificing anything. How can this be seen as anything other than a sharing of information?

-AM
Truth exists beyond the dimension of thought.

Stookie

Yeah, it's a FORUM!!!

fo·rum:
-   an assembly, meeting place, television program, etc., for the discussion of questions of public interest.

Selski

Quote from: Awakened_Mind on November 01, 2007, 06:40:36
No one is sacrificing anything.

Hi AM

Have you not heard about the monthly meetings we hold in the middle of the forest?  We always need a goat or two...  :wink:

Sarah
We all find nonsenses to believe in; it's part of being alive.

Awakened_Mind

Truth exists beyond the dimension of thought.

joycloud


Selski

Hi joycloud

It's compulsory on months with the letter 'y' in them.  :-D

Sarah
We all find nonsenses to believe in; it's part of being alive.

Embodied Words

There are in every man, always, two simultaneous allegiances, one to God, the other to Satan. Invocation of God, or Spirituality, is a desire to climb higher, that of Satan, or animality, is delight in descent.

- Charles Baudelaire (1821-1867)

Selski

That's optional and is up to the goats.  Some of them can be quite shy.

Sarah
We all find nonsenses to believe in; it's part of being alive.

Embodied Words

There are in every man, always, two simultaneous allegiances, one to God, the other to Satan. Invocation of God, or Spirituality, is a desire to climb higher, that of Satan, or animality, is delight in descent.

- Charles Baudelaire (1821-1867)


Embodied Words

There are in every man, always, two simultaneous allegiances, one to God, the other to Satan. Invocation of God, or Spirituality, is a desire to climb higher, that of Satan, or animality, is delight in descent.

- Charles Baudelaire (1821-1867)