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IceCold_K82

My main focus is to Robert's NEW strategies and AP.

But this topic of Metaphysics always catches my eye.  The problem is I dont know where to begin searching.  I dont really understand what Metaphyics entails...????  I would like to do a bit of side research and practice and would apprectiate a good website or book to look at. 

interception

Google is your friend.   :-D

crystalinks.com is a good start. Covers a wide range of subjects.

Stillwater

I think the important thing to remember is, "who's metaphysics?"

Since there is very little agreement in the world about the nature of alternate levels of exixtence, what you read must ultimately be flavored by the viewpoints of the author. There is very little agreement in the end- it may look like something must be true, since it is quoted as happening by multiple sources you have read (if it happened independently to Owens, Robertson, Peters, and Smith, it must be true!), but sometimes, it actually happens that all these sources are familiar with the works of the others, and base their reasoning, and the way in which they interpret their experiences, through the lens of a shared doctrine. There is very much information written today online and in print on the subject, but unfortunately, I think you have to have read a large number of sources before you begin to get the ability to discern what ideas your sources likely drew from other sources, rather than their own direct reasoning and experiences.

You will meet many people in places like this who appear very flaky and not quite all there- they use a very specialized vocabulary that they expect all others to be familiar with, and they appear very certain about a few "non-negotiable" points- I think what often may cause this is taking on the subject of metaphysics from the viewpoint of one writer, and becoming familiar with all that this writer or this set of people, or this perspective, has to present, without stopping to look at them in a critical light, and becoming aquainted with what others have to say.

So my advice is to look long and hard, and not stop when you have found what resonates with you, but to temper your views and knowledge with as many other concepts as possible :wink:
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

IceCold_K82

Quote from: Stillwater on January 16, 2009, 07:50:27
I think the important thing to remember is, "who's metaphysics?"

Since there is very little agreement in the world about the nature of alternate levels of exixtence, what you read must ultimately be flavored by the viewpoints of the author. There is very little agreement in the end- it may look like something must be true, since it is quoted as happening by multiple sources you have read (if it happened independently to Owens, Robertson, Peters, and Smith, it must be true!), but sometimes, it actually happens that all these sources are familiar with the works of the others, and base their reasoning, and the way in which they interpret their experiences, through the lens of a shared doctrine. There is very much information written today online and in print on the subject, but unfortunately, I think you have to have read a large number of sources before you begin to get the ability to discern what ideas your sources likely drew from other sources, rather than their own direct reasoning and experiences.

You will meet many people in places like this who appear very flaky and not quite all there- they use a very specialized vocabulary that they expect all others to be familiar with, and they appear very certain about a few "non-negotiable" points- I think what often may cause this is taking on the subject of metaphysics from the viewpoint of one writer, and becoming familiar with all that this writer or this set of people, or this perspective, has to present, without stopping to look at them in a critical light, and becoming aquainted with what others have to say.

So my advice is to look long and hard, and not stop when you have found what resonates with you, but to temper your views and knowledge with as many other concepts as possible :wink:

Trust me, I understand this concept well.  When looking for answers on Lucid dreams and Astral Projection, I ran into many scams or what felt like BS.  I had to sift through the fecal matter to really get some answers.

I dont have the time to do that again.  I have tried google but not many definitive answers on where to begin appeared.  I figured I would try a quick way and ask people here on where to go bc I trust the opinions on mostly everyone here.