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Eol007

Hi there,

Perhaps if you will allow me, may I add a few observations re: parts of your post. I can only come from a position of personal experience!

I think a lot of people when opening up spiritually go through various phases in terms of shifting their perspective of internal and external worlds and their moving landscape of belief and old need for rational answers to the big questions (ha ha). I am not a metaphysician, but some of what you have said I think I can appreciate, having had similar types of feeling occur in the past.

One feeling I think many of us go through is the classic blues bro 'I have seen the light experience in some form or another!!!

The 'Am I on a mission from god' feeling, or 'I am something extra special', and Have I been chosen? I do not deserve this as I am not good enough etc...

The answer is really well Yes and No to each and all of these for various reasons... Yes you do and will make a difference. Even if it is to go to the assistance of only one soul! This goes in hand with the expression 'many are called but few are chosen' – perhaps one explanation might be: you can choose how you act and interrelate on what ever level suits your spiritual capacity and development at any particular time!

Sometimes people might say something like 'you are going to be a significantly player on the world or whatever stage' (blah etc). You choose to if you wish, but add to that - you take your chances with that one! It seems however the really significant players – keep mum!

I appreciate that some apparent spiritual insight – like having premonitions and can be very unsettling to put it mildly. Whether it be personal or something on a exponential scale in terms of apparent significance. Although some moments of synchronicity can be so very precious don't you feel?

To be honest some experiences used to bother me a whole lot, but over the last few years I have learnt to live with these sort of things – and treat them with respect that may be due or not, but release and see them as part of the scheme of things. I personally value the experiences had and move on to enjoying the now as much as circumstances allow. Doesn't mean that I live like some state of bliss all the time, still have to do the 3 S's – excrement, shower, shave every day, deal wih job issues, relationships and so on, and have the occasional wo betide me moment (ho hum)!

The thing here is you are not alone and if you always put your best foot forward, no matter how dirty things get – tomorrow IS a different day! Appreciate that sound a bit naf, but honestly you are not delusional – just normal. What is it everyone coins: 'You are a spiritual being having a human experience'. I think it is good to remember and value both together sometimes and not neglect one in preference for the other.

Take care and many blessing,


Stephen [:)]

Aileron

Thank you, that was a very well put opinion. Its very appreciated.
[:)]


I do agree many of the moments of synchronicity which we interact within are very precious, and I suppose at times personally I find them overwhelming.
In fact as sad as it is, though I think I reacted in a very human manner, there have been times, recently expecially, where it became too much to deal with, almost overbearing and I lost it in an airport. Not a good place to have a breakdown, but after what I had been through and then reading into so much around me, I feel I was partially in the right to react as I did.

The only reasons I am able to bear these thoughts here is because on the internet I can keep a semblance of anonymity without exploiting what I feel is very important.
I dont talk about these things with friends, and in fact there has been only one person who I have completely conveyed what, how and why I feel the way I do.

Im glad you answered me though, it does make me feel much better.
St. Augustine - "Don't you believe that there is in man a deep so profound as to be hidden even to him in whom it is?"

Eol007

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Thank you, that was a very well put opinion. Its very appreciated.

No probs!
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I do agree many of the moments of synchronicity which we interact within are very precious, and I suppose at times personally I find them overwhelming.
In fact as sad as it is, though I think I reacted in a very human manner, there have been times, recently expecially, where it became too much to deal with, almost overbearing and I lost it in an airport. Not a good place to have a breakdown, but after what I had been through and then reading into so much around me, I feel I was partially in the right to react as I did.

Opening up does come with a few hiccups – most sensitive people can get freaked in places where large numbers of people congregate, and often where normally they would not have been bothered before. From experience this will tend to settle a little, but not always... you have probably or may need to change lifestyle to accommodate for this. Other things like sensitivity to food, drink (especially), drugs (even more so) can come into the fray. The thing here is to practice moderation and seek like minded people. I certainly found that I had to avoid certain friends (probably fair weather if the truth were known) and accept the new me! I've been to meltdown point and got through it so can empathise 100%. It is very worth while getting help however - don't try to bottle it all up as that is not healthy in the long run. Even some basic councelling at least will allow you to vent safely!
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The only reasons I am able to bear these thoughts here is because on the internet I can keep a semblance of anonymity without exploiting what I feel is very important.
I dont talk about these things with friends, and in fact there has been only one person who I have completely conveyed what, how and why I feel the way I do.

Covered this a little already, but difficult to decide if it is worth while or not to come out in terms of spirituality with family and friends. Eventually I chose to reveal a little, and lost a few mates along the way. On the other hand family and close friends were surprisingly good about it. Although some thought I was deluded or mental. I remember meeting a group for a few beers in London and one person arrived and shouted out for all and sundry to hear 'So you have become a medium (ha ha ha)' – actually it was not to hard dealing with that after all - as I replied that his Mrs and his Aunt were both mediums and he quickly shut his gob up, and we enjoyed the rest of the evening.
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Im glad you answered me though, it does make me feel much better.


A pleasure,


Stephen

Kodemaster

Hi Aileron,

I know what you're going through. I see stuff like this happening all the time...It has been going on for a few years now...but has increased significantly as of late.

For example: I went out to an open mic at the place I usually hang out. I ran into someone that I knew quite well, hadn't seen in a long time, but had given me a lot of trouble in the past. I thought to myself (and told the owner, whom I'm friend with) that "as long as my ex-boyfriend doesn't show up, I'll be OK."

About 10 minutes later, guess who walks in...you got it, my ex!!! I high-tailed it out of there and didn't come back for awhile!!!

What's strange is that none of the two were ones to show up there. My ex had not been there since we broke up (and it was like pulling teeth to get him to go there with me when we were together), and "Stinky" (that was the old "friend's" nickname) had never been there before. Needless to say, my ex hasn't been there since.

For some reason, I was just not meant to be there. I still don't know the reason why, but I'll probably find out one day.
JenX
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Aileron

I need to know what others think.
Some time ago I became more sensative to what the world spoke to me, such as giving me natural signs and throwing information regarding the future in my face.

It has left me in a state of confused flux, for at times it seems I feel embraced and pulled in toward the directions I head, and at other times I am left in difficult situations.
None of these "signs" are out of the ordinary in the sense that I hear voices or see things that arent there, but obvious numbers, words coinciding, dates, and people who all seem to relate to the part I play in the future.

I hate talking about this, especially in forums and places such as these as so many make similar claims, and although I am not here to debase any of those, with the numerous amount of them, it is hard to discern from what is more a realistic situation to what is fraudulent. This is why I am giving general details rather than explaining to the last every odd thing that has happened to me over a period of years.

It is apparent to me that there is a language of the universe which ushers us along certain paths that we may choose to forge ahead upon, but some of us, dont seem to have the choice to deviate from that road.
For simple instances, my birthdates, astroglical signs, kabalistic associations, astrological planet, zodiac number, etc. all seem to embrace a very obvious path, and though I do not search for signs, they are vary apparent when I come to notice them.
This path frightens me for every day I awake to more and more knowledge unfolding before me that just seems to be constant proof of what I must do.
Today for instance I reread an article of a white buffalo being born two hours away from where I live. A white buffalo is hearalded by native americans as a great hope for its people in times of trouble, and is not often born but once in a little over a million births. It is a pure buffalo and has no cattle/ cow in it.

That is a small instance that wouldnt have even been worth mentioning had it not been for other circumstances surrounding the information.
I just want other peoples opinion.
Might I be delusional if I believe myself to play some important part in the future, even when I tell myself that I am but these things the world tells me are so evidant?
Or perhaps I am not delusional, that there is a rational explanation besides what I am hoping is not a reality for me?

I have been so beside myself with what to do, and although I dont expect any answer that will truly help, I need to search for the asnwers in what ever manner available to me.
St. Augustine - "Don't you believe that there is in man a deep so profound as to be hidden even to him in whom it is?"