I heard of something ridiculous yet a few times. From my friend and some sites i heard of ability to go super human. Sounds dbzish but it can happen just like chi balls are dbzish too yet theyre on this forum. I'm not naive, i wont believe if someone told me they can destroy the world with a single thought but i do believe anything is possible. I'm not a dbz freak little boy here. I cannot prove super human but i believe 50% that's its possible so I'm posting if anyone at all did it here?
Dont be silly. And whats to say its real? Am I supposed to just trust someone I have only seen post once. Provide some sources.
Sounds like someone watched just a bit too much dragonball Z!
Haha I used to be a DBZ kid...ahh the fond memories.....
No realy i think its possible but u gotta be mad as hell and power up i heard. Come on this site is all about supernatural things this is nothing compared to some stuff on this forum.
what site?
You have to at least be able to back up what you r saying. You can't just come and say i can destroy an entire city with just a single thought
How the hell do i back up anything ever on this site? or a better question how can i even prove chi to people who dont believe in it?
My post is about if anyone heard of this that i can talk to. This must be rare cause my friend did it but i wanna find mroe ppl who did it. I heard to transform, u gotta be so ticked youre about to explode and then u power up while screaming and releasing everything.
Come on we all are here in this forum registered "because" we believe about OBE so this can exist too, cant it?
How can you say i watch too much dbz? everyone here can make a chi ball and blast ppl like dbz! transformation can exist too!
Blast people with chi? Wow, you really do watch too much DBZ.
Let me know when you find someone who can blow things up with their chi.
I've worked with energy since I was young. I felt it first when I was 7, consciously used it when I was 11 and trained it ever since. Repeatedly I've tried to take it "to the limit" with rage, anger, determination and sheer obsessiveness. I've sweated buckets in the cold, ended up in tears, and healed folks with it.
Chi balls and blasting with them-sounds like b*ll*x to me. Too much TV. I'll believe this side of it when I see/experience it. I'm 28 now and have had a lot of success with healing using this, so "chi" (if you like) exists, definitly. DBZ nonsense..is just that.
But u can blow thinks up with chi! its about making a solid. Nothing is impossible I'm telling you. Doesn't matter how many years you practice it all depends on the right way to do it. You can transform but it takes so much rage ur inches from dieing from your own anger. Its when some mystical energy empowers you, read this site: http://theteachingsofki.tripod.com/ . If you can heal people with magic called "chi" then u can definitely hurt them, If u can each GOD through just sleeping and creating your own universe then going super human isn't that great.
Wether or not u guys believe in it, it exist. I'm not gonna go proving it.This post is about those who have done it.
yo does the creator of "Our ultimate reality" go to these forums?
BTW: Its not that most techniques are taken from dbz, its that dbz took them from REAL life.
Although for some of the things on the website that you gave, it was all hopes and dreams of a kid trying to be like the people in dbz. Although I am not surprised since the kid was 13 when he made the website. I mean honestly do you really think that you can cut a man in half because you made a "ki ball" flat. Have a little sense and don't believe everything you read
hmm... good point. But i also heard some people in life who did it. Chi and everything on this forum is magic and supernatural that most people dont believe and laught at u. Still why cant it be possible to go super human?
and on that site that kid said he did a lot of those techniques and that he copied them off somewhere else.
I'm telling you its as possible as anything else in here.
Its all so and so said this and claimed this and that. There is never proof. If you know people who have made such personal claims I highly recommend asking for demonstrations- because otherwise you'll never find out the truth.
If you do plan to go ask for some demonstrations, be prepared for some very persuassive excuses =)
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I thought christianity was bad, you're brainwashed by DBZ! It's a show, it is not possible to do any of those things, and no one ever has. You are just making illogical assumptions.
Quote from: TheDarkChakraMy friend did it and i hard on some sites u can do it too. My friend said there are 200 super human forms he made 2 mystic and theres a form to transform into an angel or devil. Anyone ever done any of transformations? This is real im not lieing.
You need to (re)learn how to properly design and post topics. You don't give good enough sources to provide valid substance. It may be a good start for a fantasy novel though, but based on your writing abilities...meh.
These are really good tips on how to properly form posts for any bulletin board. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page#Tips_on_editing_Wikipedia_articles)
I guess i do need to learn how to post better topics. Dude can you people prove the existence of chi? i never got proven but i still practiced and was able to use it. I cant prove u the existence of super human because its much more rare than creating a chi. Those who use it keep it very secret, all those families keep a low profile.
Can you guys just think for a moment thats it is possible?
There are open minds then there are minds so open that they become vapor.
What I mean is being open minded to me, means questioning and examining. Not accepting just any old thing no matter how well worded or argued.
I don't believe in the existance of "chi". I know what "chi" feels like-if I tell you I use the word "chi" as a convenient label for a set of sensations involved in conciously directing energy for a purpose. For me, belief is for when you can't know.
A sort of pointless thing to do sometimes. Belief in the right place is useful, but belief as a replacement for actual knowledge to me seems rather daft.
As for families with super chi keeping it secret. Please, that's back to the old conspiracy theories stuff to be honest. I'm definitly with the skeptic brigade on that one. Whilst I don't believe any of us here know all that is possible by a long stretch, that doesn't mean that I should believe anything that someone claims is real and happening either.
btw, devout DBZ'er topics seem to turn up here with alarming regularity as does the closely related "chi miracles" topic. I've no doubt that some amazing things can and have been done with energy work having experienced such myself but this blasting things with chi stuff is pretty tiresome. I would say to the next DBZ wannabe, please, please don't bother to post it-just prove it. Somethings are kinda not worth debating.
What the hell does everyone here points to dbz?! I am not pointing to dbz at all! I'm saying it could be possible. What no one believes chi is real just like u guys dont believe in super human. Its the same thing. I cant prove it. But u guys cant prove chi either so each cancel each other out and in conclusion theres a 50% chance super human exists. Get it? I can also say u all guys are dbz wannabes trying to do all sorts of energy and healing excrement.
Troll I think.
I dont know much about chi and the far eastern energy works, but I do know that you can use energy to enhance physical ability. Im not talking about making balls and shooting them or any of that hoo-hah but more like psi steroids. You can use your energy to become faster or stronger, I really cant tell you how because im still working it out for myself.
Yeah, I think that's similar to Shaolin monks and their feats of strength and endurance. Mind over matter and all that. I'm pretty sure they're not the only people to manipulate energy in that way. Seen that thing where one monk'll push a spear against his neck and it won't pierce? Yeah. Anyway... How'd you get your avatar to be that size Wronski Feint? Mine sucks, it's so small... It says I can only have it at 49k size or something. :question: :question: :question:
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Yeah you can enhance your strength greatly with chi. But im talking about super human is that when you get so ticked that a "mystic energy" empowers you, the energy that hasnt been discovered even by the author of our ultimate reality. I heard you must have a very great amount of strength in every muscle and extremely good martial arts skills before enraging to ascending the limit.
I believe anything is possible
I fixed my avatar. :grin: Anyway, I wouldn't be totally sure about that. I think it's amazing in itself to be able to manipulate energy in such a way that you can't be pierced. I'd doubt that you'd need to be proficient in martial arts or have great physical strength because the energy you're talking about has nothing to do with physical attributes. Mind over matter. But still... "getting ticked" doesn't seem like the correct mind frame to be in in order to achieve anything. I don't see the point hey. What's the reason you seek this power anyway? (Much better avatar :lol:)
Quote from: TheDarkChakra...ticked that a "mystic energy" empowers you... ...you must have a very great amount of strength in every muscle and extremely good martial arts skills...
:D i think its things like that that are giving everyone the DBZ ideas... Yea i understand your frustration with the fact that your not talking about dbz at all (use a bad example once and whoosh you've lost it).
Anyway based on western energy work (which is basically the same as the eastern idea of chi.) It is possible to do as EtheriK and Feint said, great un-natural things such as body enhancements. As to super human enhancements well I'm less likely to go straight out and endorse it, however i can understand the principle behind it...
Also in consideration to building up extreme anger, you don't need to know a martial art to do this :) sure anger is generated much more easily if you have a quick way of dealing with it ( that is why arts teach restraint and meditation, in order to calm and control) but extreme anger can be generated by anyone. ( i know that kinda missed the point). Anger such as this is called blind rage and it means exactly that
blindrage, you are so oblivious to anything that you don't care what happens as long as the source of your anger is eliminated. Norse mythology speaks of a type of energy manipulation (aided along by certain drugs) that was used to send warriors into a blood-lust and after an anger provoking speech they would go and kill everything until the goal was achieved. I suppose that this would count as being super human through energy work but I'm pretty sure that's not exactly what you meant. As for shooting energy out of your hands... i don't know, but hey anythings possible.
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there is a reason everyone says that you must be angry to become 'super', this is partly true. Usually in a normal state, we dont acheive the clairity of thought nor the strong will like we do when we are angry. Another instance of you becomig super is when youre in danger. Most people argue that adrialine is the cause of these amazing feats of strength, but i think energy comes in and helps.
Im the kind of person who bottles up their anger. I do not beleive this is unhealthy. I think that using anger helps in certain situations. If the only way to unlock the energy is to get mad, then why disperse all your anger? Keeping some nice anger on hand is good, just dont let it control you. Also when i get mad, and i mean MAD not frustrated, I have no idea what goes on untill i calm down. This scares me somtimes, but it takes alot to get me there. The most important thing is to controll your anger and use it to your advantage. Anger is the great motivator.
Oh wow. But it can be anything other than anger, it can be a huge emotion. But mostly a great amount of emotion is generated through anger because humans are self-centered greedy bastards.
Yeah like Wronski Feint stated is can be unlocked when youre in danger or wanna help someone badly, like if someone is dieing and youre like only a beginner to healing and you're like desperate for more chi energy and then new energy comes out, empowering all of your muscles,bones, and cells.
If chi exists than maybe theres a much secret energy way deeper in human body, maybe its invisible and unnoticable.
The author of our ultimate reality did a lot of research on energy that is within us that is hard to see we call chi/ki/qi but God probably made human much more complicated than that. I think God wanted humans to not cut themselves to see whats inside but he knew we would anyway someday so he made much secret very important organs(i think they can be called organs), like the ones we can see it good for us to know about how to improve our health but maybe "chi" is secret ebcause of humans found out, we could be too invinsible such as a lot of people actually going "super human".
Yes i bottle up my anger too but i heard from my sources that its even better to achieve super human when you're bottled up, now all i need is great martial arts skill, muscle strengh, and extreme chi control i heard. I only believe it, i did not see anyone use it but belief is a strong force.
Great martial arts skill and strengh which is even stronger than people like "Bruce Lee" used to be.
you dont need great martial art skills. I watched the matrix 5 times and once in slow motion. :lol:
I'm guessing skill meaning great chi and muscle control. but definately great chi control and a lot of anger not "Blind Rage" just letting out all u bottled up for months.
So why do you pursue this power again?
I don't believe in the anger making you stronger, sure maybe brute strength, but that won't win the fight always.
It's like Bruce Lee said, showing no emotion, you must stay calm and emotionless, to study the opponent. Becoming angry will just result in you flailing your arms and a skilled martial artist will hit you before you get a chance to strike.
Quote from: EtheriKSo why do you pursue this power again?
I'm just curious that's all. I'm gonna become a martial artists so it will help me out a lot there.
Quote from: NickJWI don't believe in the anger making you stronger, sure maybe brute strength, but that won't win the fight always.
It's like Bruce Lee said, showing no emotion, you must stay calm and emotionless, to study the opponent. Becoming angry will just result in you flailing your arms and a skilled martial artist will hit you before you get a chance to strike.
That's the quote when Bruce Lee talks about when you re in battle like blind rage and u will lose focus and will have less chance of victory. But i mean just releasing your anger to achieve greater power.
Well, I don't believe emotions can really change your strength. Emotions only cloud your judgement. They are most illogical. :shock:
I'm not sure how it is possible to become empowered by your anger, yet when you fight that anger disappears (as to not cloud your judgement) but you still have all the power from it. Dosen't make any sense. And a true martial artist dosen't worry about ki ball attacks, since kicks and punches will be much more effective and efficient in battle.
Quote from: NickJWWell, I don't believe emotions can really change your strength. Emotions only cloud your judgement. They are most illogical. :shock:
I'm not sure how it is possible to become empowered by your anger, yet when you fight that anger disappears (as to not cloud your judgement) but you still have all the power from it. Doesn't make any sense. And a true martial artist doesn't worry about Ki ball attacks, since kicks and punches will be much more effective and efficient in battle.
What are you talking about?
Chi balls can become so powerful they can burn humans alive they are actually your trump card attack. They are much More powerful than hand to hand.
Once again for the 3rd time i dont mean BLIND RAGE i mean like something makes u mad and u just let it out through shouting while fully in control. Just like in Dragon Ball Z rage can make u much stronger and energy balls can hurt u more than kicks and punches but its a little different here, cartoon is cartoon and real life is real life and the cartoon probably took everything from real life rather than people took from the cartoon and i dont watch dragon ball z yet i still know that's its possible.
Holy crap, DBZ isn't real! Ther is NOBODY and I mean NOBODY alive who can burn people with ki ball attacks! Your a kid trying to make your DBZ fantasy real, and its just not gonna happen. Even people who claim they can make ki balls, they say they can just push you or hurt you, not burn you. If ki was flammable, wouldn't we be on fire all the time?
You are so gullible its not even funny anymore, DBZ ISN'T REAL!!!!!!
Even in old Japanese scriptures, people who could light things on fire with their ki could not kill people with it, they could light things like paper on fire. You can believe in ki, but be practical. Sorry but what you believe to be possible with ki is just corny and fake.
And humans can't transform. Explain to me how the laws of biology would allow this.
I have been involved in the Martial Arts for nearly 10 years, yes ki balls are real but they are no where near as powerful as you think, and the time it takes to charge one up is to long, especially since a punch or kick can be more effective.
Lol, I can't beleive how obbsesed you are! yes, ki balls and psi balls are real, but they can not hurt you. They can be vissible to, I have flared them before (a way to prove that chi exists) but all they can be used for is to learn basic energy manipulation. they can not be used as weapons. If you wanna learn how to make psiballs go to psipog.net
Eh eh u think its not real. But i saw my friends do it, he said he only used .1% and he blow up a huge rock. It is possible wether u believe it or not because it was kept a secret very well for generations and only those kids who are children of these generations knows how to destroy things whi chi and everything. Doesnt matter how long you've been invlolved in Martial Arts, you must know how to do it.
Whatever i'm not gonna argue and prooving people somethign i dont have to. I made this post to see if theres anyone coming here right now that know super human. Its very rare so i guess its fair.
I know someone like you, he can never admit to being anything but 10000% right. He will keep making lies to try and prove his point. im not saying your lieing (althought it is highly possible). There is no such thing as the powers that you see in cartoons. Just like you can not attack someone useing a spell from a D&D book. It is not hte way the universe is designed. and even if it was possible, by the time you reached that level you would be so enlightend that you would not use the powers. and being ticked off does not give you power, it takes them away. to beable to manipulate energy you need to be calm and have your mind clear. DBZ IS NOT REAL!
Oh what do u know! I know the truth and its what i know and i dont care anything else, i am convinced and i know what i know. You can believe whatever you feel in, i'll just follow the secret truth about everything.
Ok, you do that. Have fun sinking into DBZ cult beliefs.
Martial arts is exactly that. An art form. Blowing stuff up doesn't seem very artistic to me. If you "know" the "truth", why did you come here to ask about it? If you truly did know without a shadow of a doubt the things you've mentioned are true, you wouldn't be here asking people how to go about it. These forums are designed so that we may each debate matters of interest in a civilized manner in order to gain a deeper understanding of that which we pursue. This isn't a contest to see who knows the most. Everybody here's trying to help each other out with gaining a deeper understanding of the esoteric. So if you truly do know how to "get really ticked and blow stuff up", why don't you share what you know? This forum exists to promote growth through knowledge and understanding. Understand?
After all the denial and arguing for the last 4 pages, you only mention that you saw your friend blow a rock up now? That is so b/s and you know it or you would have used it in argument in the first page of this conversation!
Let me tell you why im here and i want to know...
I came here to ask around if there is anyone else whos coming around here recently who did it. I want to know more data about the mystical super human form and other ways of achieving it other than rage. I'm interested in unlocking further power that is secret from us.
I didnt post here meaning to making an asian cartoon debate but rather the mysteries of human body and so called "supernatural powers".
I am here because i believe anything is possible for a human to achieve physically and i am not using any fantasy cartoonish imagination by some creators of fiction. It's because i heard of such level and im thinking its possible.
It's because of ginorant fools like most of you who deny some facts just because you grew up being told that a human cannot do this and knowing what the strongest men in the world can do you people are thinking that doing anything more is beyond our limits. Its the same as hating Jewish people just because they have their own beliefs and thoughts about God.
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Yet im different. I was born with a lot of imagination and not many people can say "anything is impossible" .
erm, I grew up knowing anything is possible. I have a few theorys.
A, we are all being taken for a ride.
B, this guy was taken for a ride by his "friend."
Did it ever occure to you that your friend may have been pulling your leg? I to beleive that anything is possible, but this is extremley improbable.
Quote from: NickJWI don't believe in the anger making you stronger, sure maybe brute strength, but that won't win the fight always.
It's like Bruce Lee said, showing no emotion, you must stay calm and emotionless, to study the opponent. Becoming angry will just result in you flailing your arms and a skilled martial artist will hit you before you get a chance to strike.
No, uncontrolled anger can result in you flailing your arms. Anger is a human emotion, it part of being human, while supressing isnt always bad, pretending youre not angry or trying to run from your anger is. And youre not seeing what happens when you get mad, your mind becomed incredibly clear and youre running strait off instincts. Its very hard to become that way in a normal state, therefore, through the use of controlled anger, you can acheive that state of mind.
And I really dont follow the religious teachings of Bruce Lee. He had skills, but what works for him, dosnt work for everyone. And im not talking about martial arts, this is what is throwing you all off. What im talking about is more of a skill all its own, not a aspect of fighting. Im saying that you can heal faster, never get sick, do amazing physical things(besides fighting) and have an easier time with tk and psi balls and such. We need to get the fighting out of the conversation, cause its a really bad example and its confusing people.
Quote from: NickJWAnd humans can't transform. Explain to me how the laws of biology would allow this.
Um, this isnt a place for textbook biology, if youre looking for science, youre in the wrong place.
Quote from: NickJWHoly crap, DBZ isn't real! Ther is NOBODY and I mean NOBODY alive who can burn people with ki ball attacks! Your a kid trying to make your DBZ fantasy real, and its just not gonna happen. Even people who claim they can make ki balls, they say they can just push you or hurt you, not burn you. If ki was flammable, wouldn't we be on fire all the time?
Dood, that isnt cool. Bruce lee would never put sombody down for beleiving in somthing. Just because you dont agree, dosnt make them wrong or stupid. If you think sombody is wrong, move on. Just let it go, dont argue.
A make one reference to Bruce Lee and now I am him? I don't care if this isn't a place for science, all things in the physical must abide by scientific rules, and a human transforming is biologically impossible. I never said he was stupid, I was merely stating the fact like many others who posted, that he IS getting this from DragonBall and that he does not understand the true concept of chi. If your mind was clear when you were angry, then you wouldn't have a state of emotion. Emotions are a most illogical tool for superhuman feats, especially primitive ones such as anger.
Quote from: NickJWA make one reference to Bruce Lee and now I am him? I don't care if this isn't a place for science, all things in the physical must abide by scientific rules, and a human transforming is biologically impossible. I never said he was stupid, I was merely stating the fact like many others who posted, that he IS getting this from DragonBall and that he does not understand the true concept of chi. If your mind was clear when you were angry, then you wouldn't have a state of emotion. Emotions are a most illogical tool for superhuman feats, especially primitive ones such as anger.
You still dont comprehend what i mean. I mean just releasing it through scream just release while in controlled state. I cant explain it like that.
NickJW: You said its biologically impossible to go superhuman. Which scientist found out the chi storage in our body? None that i heard of. You know that its there because God made it invisible or something.
People! I am not under any circumstances taking anything i said from an anime! I'm taking this from a friend and a website i saw. Something about his talk makes me want to believe it. Lying to me for months is too retarted for a guy like him. Even a 13 would stop after a week. But hes not 13.
By the way (nothing to do with chi, just normal human limits), Bruce Lee was considered one of the the strongest man in the world yet his style of workouts were those within human limits. I have his book on workouts and the ones he did, he limits his sets and reps and makes rules like add 5 reps every week to
- amount of sets you're up to right now. But i once tried to surpass his teachings and way of workout, i did as many reps as i could with more sets than he would use for himself and that probably makes people stronger faster. He was the strongest man in the world within the limits but you can surpass them. The people who did keep a very low profile. So unless you read every persons mind in the whole world all over 6 billion of them or talked to God about this than you cannot be definitely sure of the real limits of human being.
Wow Wronski Feint is the only one here who isn't against me. Wronski Feint is saying that it could be possible like me (i think so).
It sucks so much being hates and ignored for just saying something very impossible like :(.
Quote from: TheDarkChakraYou still dont comprehend what i mean. I mean just releasing it through scream just release while in controlled state. I cant explain it like that...
People! I am not under any circumstances taking anything i said from an anime! I'm taking this from a friend and a website i saw. Something about his talk makes me want to believe it. Lying to me for months is too retarted for a guy like him. Even a 13 would stop after a week. But hes not 13.
By the way (nothing to do with chi, just normal human limits), Bruce Lee was considered one of the the strongest man in the world yet his style of workouts were those within human limits. I have his book on workouts and the ones he did, he limits his sets and reps and makes rules like add 5 reps every week to - amount of sets you're up to right now. But i once tried to surpass his teachings and way of workout, i did as many reps as i could with more sets than he would use for himself and that probably makes people stronger faster. He was the strongest man in the world within the limits but you can surpass them. The people who did keep a very low profile. So unless you read every persons mind in the whole world all over 6 billion of them or talked to God about this than you cannot be definitely sure of the real limits of human being.
Wow Wronski Feint is the only one here who isn't against me. Wronski Feint is saying that it could be possible like me (i think so).
It sucks so much being hates and ignored for just saying something very impossible like :(.
I respect what you have posted here more than any other of your posts, however you have opened yourself up so in a way you have made yourself more vulnerable to others here, but it doesn't matter because the emotions you have put into your words seem to truly speak how you feel on the surface.
One of the issues I'd like to discuss with you though is your feelings of others. You state that there is only one person here on your side, but you forgot me. I am also completely against you though, but not for the reasons you probably expect. Given that... I challenge and urge you to go back through this entire thread and read each post as if they were whole heartedly in favor of you pulling off everything you say. I expect if you can do that, and eliminate the feelings you get from each post and replace them with positives, you will find much more truth in what you seek from what has been said, instead of dwelling on the painful side of it. Dealing with pain is an important part of the growing process, but becoming a master of that doesn't seem in line with the goals you currently seek, so
STOP IT lol.
Another issue that bothers me a bit is that you seem to be a very emotional person underneath, who focuses on a particular truth whether it is honest or not. Some may call this naive, but they don't realize that this path can lead to manipulation of reality if you master it. Learn to make things happen whether they are true or not, because I think with patience and practice you probably can, and you're already on your way! Good luck, but please try to keep out of my realities for now unless you intend to help me.
I would like to additionally speak of two more things that combined hold quite a bit of power in most things: patience and perceverance. They are extremely hard to explain to those with ADHD, however I have an example for those of them who like stories and is based on something that happens every day in reality but goes unheard. In bridge construction, contractors are required by permit to drive the pileons (the big poles holding it up) by a compactor down to bedrock and then pounded again to see if it's stable at that point. Several times in history it has been known that these pileons sometimes break through the bedrock due to the amount of weight of vehicles going over them over time. Sometimes this weight can be added up and calculated to be the energy value equal or less than the energy value of one more strike by the pounding compressor. The morals; if you want to give up just give it one more strike; or avoid bridges whenever possible!
Chi is your energy, and we know that your body needs energy to survive. It is impossible for your body to change its form, chi or no chi. Yes there are probably people out there that are stronger than Bruce Lee, but there are no people which can blow things up with there chi and transform like in DBZ. You can practice chi balls, but you will never get them to blow things up. Even the most skilled chi ball makers can't kill people and blow things up with them.
(PS if you have ever read the Tao Of Jeet Kune Do, you will see that Bruce Lee didn't believe in limiting yourself and did believe in chi)
Well i agree with TDC on some degree. I dont think that when enough chi is stored or used that your muscles grow and your hair turns big an blonde. I do however agree, that under the right control and circumstances you can become much stronger than you are now, and you will gain the ability to do things that normal humans cant do. No physical/visual transformation required. Althgouh high amounts of energy flowing through the body is bound to cause some kind of physical change, whether its a big change like the dragonball series or a small change, like light distortion.
And to nick's stament, the 'true' concept of chi, is just that, a concept. You see, what somthing means to one person, isnt what it means to another. Its based on perspective. One ancient asian guy said 'Chi is this...' and thats his view on the matter. It dosnt make it true. In my short time in this place, i have come to realize that nothing is certain and nothing is truely true. In the beggining there was the word. If everybody says somthing is true, then people beleives it is. All I know is that nobody tells me what im looking at, I interpret for myself. I really dont beleive that clarity of thought requires no emotion, again you are getting this from the martial arts, which sombody told you that in order for you to have a clear mind, you must not have emotion. I, as earlier stated, dont let sombody tell me what my i need to have clear thought, i know what I need.
Of course, your views are your own, and its not my place to discard your beleifs, just like it wasnt your right to discard TDC's beleifs as somthing unrealistic. So I say no more arguing and just let sombody beleive what they want, its not gonna hurt you to let a person beleive they can be super sajin(or however you spell it). Humans have such a problem with things that oppose them. We all need to get over it.
EDIT: I meant to add that even though things in the physical abide by the rules of physics, the methaphysical can alter the physical worlld. And humans hasnt figured out the pysics to everything yet.
Quote from: YbomQuote from: TheDarkChakraYou still dont comprehend what i mean. I mean just releasing it through scream just release while in controlled state. I cant explain it like that...
People! I am not under any circumstances taking anything i said from an anime! I'm taking this from a friend and a website i saw. Something about his talk makes me want to believe it. Lying to me for months is too retarted for a guy like him. Even a 13 would stop after a week. But hes not 13.
By the way (nothing to do with chi, just normal human limits), Bruce Lee was considered one of the the strongest man in the world yet his style of workouts were those within human limits. I have his book on workouts and the ones he did, he limits his sets and reps and makes rules like add 5 reps every week to - amount of sets you're up to right now. But i once tried to surpass his teachings and way of workout, i did as many reps as i could with more sets than he would use for himself and that probably makes people stronger faster. He was the strongest man in the world within the limits but you can surpass them. The people who did keep a very low profile. So unless you read every persons mind in the whole world all over 6 billion of them or talked to God about this than you cannot be definitely sure of the real limits of human being.
Wow Wronski Feint is the only one here who isn't against me. Wronski Feint is saying that it could be possible like me (i think so).
It sucks so much being hates and ignored for just saying something very impossible like :(.
I respect what you have posted here more than any other of your posts, however you have opened yourself up so in a way you have made yourself more vulnerable to others here, but it doesn't matter because the emotions you have put into your words seem to truly speak how you feel on the surface.
Dude you're acting like a phychiatrist. The side thing i was saying the fact in a manner to take it lightly like a joke.
Quote from: YbomOne of the issues I'd like to discuss with you though is your feelings of others. You state that there is only one person here on your side, but you forgot me. I am also completely against you though, but not for the reasons you probably expect. Given that... I challenge and urge you to go back through this entire thread and read each post as if they were whole heartedly in favor of you pulling off everything you say. I expect if you can do that, and eliminate the feelings you get from each post and replace them with positives, you will find much more truth in what you seek from what has been said, instead of dwelling on the painful side of it. Dealing with pain is an important part of the growing process, but becoming a master of that doesn't seem in line with the goals you currently seek, so STOP IT lol.
So you want me to take every topic here, read it, and change them into positive? Another physiological thing i suppose.
Quote from: YbomAnother issue that bothers me a bit is that you seem to be a very emotional person underneath, who focuses on a particular truth whether it is honest or not. Some may call this naive, but they don't realize that this path can lead to manipulation of reality if you master it. Learn to make things happen whether they are true or not, because I think with patience and practice you probably can, and you're already on your way! Good luck, but please try to keep out of my realities for now unless you intend to help me.
You are good at telling personalities. Hehe got me there i am emotional person but i didn't get any emotional on this forum so you're wrong about that. I do seek truth in everything and it must be honest, it must be true and real in the world. I might be naive too. I am trying to make things happen wether they are true or not like this one.
I am just built so that i believe that the current limits we know right now, can be surpassed.
I want to add this "until the day scientist learn everything about anything relating to chi and seemingly supernatural stuff going on like on this forum, you have no right to say that transformations are false." anything else i will say. No one knows everything about chi. Well maybe the ones that you do, live in China and dont use the computer at all.
PS: I wasnt emotional on this post either. Its jsut too dumb to get emotional over this. Its not worth it.
We are more limited by our beliefs and our environment than we are by our own physiology.
Our beliefs - how many times deas the average person tell them they can't do something as opposed to they can do something.
Our environment - look at the toxins that are a part of our every day life that inhibit us.
There's a rather controversial part of the book "Conversations With God" where "God" states that our bodies were not only designed to be self repairing, they were designed to be self regenerating. Sound impossible?
Cells regenetrate, bones repair themselves. Even our teeth can regrow once their given the right protiens to flick their built in grow / don't grow switch. Its all there. We have all the right ingredients.
Trouble is, we also keep putting into ourselves the wrong ingredients. We are already quite familiar with many toxins in our immediate environment that cause us damage on a cellular level. Ageing could be seen as nothing more than our bodies becoming unable to properly maintian the cellular regeneration due to the build up of unwanted materials.
Ok, it's a large supposition, but what if we really could regain self regeneration? that would be kind of superhuman wouldn't it? And it's much closer to our grasps than we realise.
Just a thought!
James.
TheDarkChakra,
Calling me someone who perscribes medicine for all of my patients to get them addicted on a quick fix is pretty much an insult. Therapist would have been better, however you also called me dude which is a form of a cowboy. Which is it?
Look, I was just offering advice. You most definitely shouldn't take it based on how your reacting. Sorry for being detrimental.
By what you've written and the way you've written it, you've lost your composure on several occasions TheDarkChakra. Calling people psychiatrists, ignorant fools, comparing us to anti Semitic racists... This is childish.
No one here is either "with you" or "against you". This is not a battleground. We're just trying to see what you're talking about. I'm not sure, but I think that in theory you could ascertain a formula for success with the things you've been talking about. Research telekinesis, manipulation of force. Maybe that'll point you in the right direction. Before I go some questions. Information on your friend, what he does without assumptions or speculations and lastly information regarding the website you were on. Thank you.
Ybom: I was saying you're acting like one a lot. Sorry if i insulted you.
You know James has a point.
Quote from: TheDarkChakraYbom: I was saying you're acting like one a lot. Sorry if i insulted you.
You know James has a point.
No, I'm sorry. If I seem to act like a psychiatrist to you, then I've failed unless you can see me in a different way. You didn't insult me, but it could be seen as one if you look at it right. I agree with etherik, you've seemed to have lost your composure quite a few times. Can you try to avoid calling people who are trying to contribute names? Please please please please?
James always has a point, even though I like to challenge it half the time.
Ya, enough with the insults Goku
I said acting as a phychiatrist not being. Where else did i use insults other than this? I dont remember calling people bad names
Quote from: EtheriKThis is not a battleground.
Quote from: NickJWYa, enough with the insults Goku
Yeah, no hostility here. :roll:
What we have here is a group of people who think that the super human thing is not possible, trying to discuss weather its possible or not, agains one person who thinks it is. Basiclly, youre all agreeing on the fact that you dissagree with TDC and that he is just a little kid with a DBZ fantasy. Now that all of us have discussed our opionion on the matter, I beleive it is frivilous to continue this dicussion. It makes me sad that we can never dicuss anything without arguing. What we need to do is stop psycoanalyzing TDC and just stop posting on this thread. If you have nothing that contributes tho the topic of the thread, then dont post anything at all.
That was exactly my point since the 1st post. And i also mentioned it many times to not post if u dont have any useful data for me about the current topic.
But people keep trying to convince me that it's not real. I dont even watch dbz and i am serious about this too.
EDIT: Oh i got an idea! How about this: I'll post in the channeling God post and ask him if its real or my friend lying to me for half a year straight.
Do you guys believe that MS is channeling God. I'm somewhat naive so i do.
So because I state the fact that this place isn't a battleground that's automatically an attack on his beliefs, or a sarcastic reference to Dragonball Z? Perhaps i'm wording myself incorrectly then, given all the furore over the seemingly apparent comparisons to DBZ. Perhaps a better way to state the same thing is by saying this isn't a place to debate who's smarter, or who's the ignorant one etc. That statement doesn't extend only to TheDarkChakra, but to all of us. Every last one of us here at AP. Not once have I vehemently denied the possibility of what TheDarkChakra speaks of. I have exhibited doubt, yet no outright disbelief. I've even gone further to ask for additional information so as to assess the situation more closely, not his psyche.
No, thats not what i meant, i was merely showing the irony of your statment. While you dont think this is a place for arguing, many people do, and they really have no tolerance for other's beleifs.
I just dont get why humans have such a big problem with abstract beleifs or people who think differntly from them. Its like it just racks their nerves untill they cant stand it anymore, if they dont say somthing to the other person. If the guy wants to beleive in this, LET HIM. Its not gonna affect your life in any way. Youre not gonna die because he beleives this. Its the same kinda discrimination you get with organized religions.
I see your point Wronski. Everybody has the freedom to believe what they want to, and no one should be discriminated or belittled for their beliefs no matter what views we personally hold in regard to them. However I do believe that this forum exists for a purpose. To some that purpose is to spread knowledge, understanding and awareness. For others it may be a grounds to base arguments. Whatever it is to each individual, a good idea would be to process the positive information derived from each post and disregard the negative.
I actually dont want to stick with belief too long. I want to find out the real truth. Anyone think i should go to that "Canneling God" threat and ask MS to ask God if this is right or wrong? Maybe God wont even tell us though because it's like supposed to be a big secret?
Yes i hate when humans hate another for their belifs, thats the worst crime.
Well, put simply belief is a mental acceptance of a truth. When or If you discover the mechanics of existence you will be able to answer that question for yourself. If you think it would help you in your answer, by all means ask. Don't feel that you have to limit yourself to one particular thread. Perhaps you could try some energy development perhaps? NEW ways? A brainwave generator could help too. type, "bwgen" into your search engine and you should be able to download a trial version of the software.
brainwave generator? what does it do? I am working on NEW though
Brainwave Generator is a shareware program that uses binaural beats to make your brain do something, or put it into a different state, or something.
I haven't got any results from it but I don't get a chance to do it often (my parents come in and tell me to turn it off because they can't cope with a vague squeaking noise from my headphones)
Yes. A brainwave generator uses bin-aural frequencies to entrain the brain wave patterns of the listener to a certain frequency, making it easier for someone to achieve a calm and centered state of mind. This helps with meditation. Although listening to it helps you to focus, it isn't meant to be used as a stand alone operation. That coupled with NEW ways, dedication, and focus will help.
I see. But i dont realy need it yet.
Someone told me that a brainwave generator causes the persons brainwave patterns to become inflexible. Thoughts?
Quote from: EtheriKSomeone told me that a brainwave generator causes the persons brainwave patterns to become inflexible. Thoughts?
I've never seen a single article pointing to such an effect of binaural beats in any literature I have read (there is a lot in the scientific domain on this).
BB's simply drive brainwaves to a certain frequency - this is no different from meditation altering brainwaves to differing frequencies based upon the depth of meditation.
Even getting lost in a good book changes brainwaves from beta to alpha - or stroking a cat, or looking and not thinking. Brainwaves constantly change frequency naturally.
What possible logic is there that one event of brainwave changing would make them (patterns) become inflexible (whatever such a thing means) when the countless other methods of changing brainwave frequency do not.
By inflexible is it meant that the brain can no longer change to other patterns? This would mean sleep would be impossible forever more - and so would thinking (which involves brainwave pattern changes).
I'd say such a thing is purely unfounded rumour.
Yeah I'm not too sure about what he's said either. However, he is a practicing psychologist so I'm not quick to rule out anything he has to say. By inflexible I think he means it becomes difficult for the subject to alter brainwave patterns to anything other than the bin-aural frequency which is most often used. Difficult but most probably not impossible. Because it's induced and not a natural transgression. Still, I have my doubts.
Quote from: EtheriKYeah I'm not too sure about what he's said either. However, he is a practicing psychologist so I'm not quick to rule out anything he has to say. By inflexible I think he means it becomes difficult for the subject to alter brainwave patterns to anything other than the bin-aural frequency which is most often used. Difficult but most probably not impossible. Because it's induced and not a natural transgression. Still, I have my doubts.
I'd have my doubts too. I've read countless scientifically published papers on binaural beats and this possibility has never been theorised - let alone mentioned - as a possible side effect.
I know of people who have been using specific BB frequencies for decades and they have no trouble experiencing any frequency a person who has never used BB's can. EEGs have backed this up.
In our modern environment we are subjected to various BBs from unatural sources and machinery - large portions of many countries would have inflexible brain frequency patterns because of this - if such a thing was possible.
Out of curiosity - if you ask you friend exactly what he means (or if he can quote the source of this) - i'll ask scientists/psychologists I know who work in this field (and at the Monroe institute) if such a thing has ever been recorded, or if it is possible.
Nothing is impossible, but somethings are so improbable that they wont happen.
Quote from: LenteNothing is impossible, but somethings are so improbable that they wont happen.
Then you are thinking within limits and not with "Nothing is impossible".
Quote from: TheDarkChakraQuote from: LenteNothing is impossible, but somethings are so improbable that they wont happen.
Then you are thinking within limits and not with "Nothing is impossible".
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too much dbz for u dude :D :D
too much dbz, and superman for u dude :D :D
The only thing I can think that is similar to the subject is Limit Breaks(not Final Fantasy games...>.>). I can't find the definition online now, but a Limit Break happens when some you care for(sometimes you don't need to know them) is in trouble, weither it be near death or something else. The person loses all insight on reality and can only think about helping that person. So the "breaker" can lift cars, trucks, and do alot more.
Talk about a upleap in strength...
hmmmm...sounds like a 'triggiring' ..
You can easily go in a "super human" state If your on
-Mind altering substances- Like certain hallucinogenics or PCP, you can throw yourself into a raging, bad trip. Thats one method vikings would use to go berserk, they would eat redcaps and go fury-insane, to the point where being sliced and stabbed with no armor wouldnt even bother them.
lol. I don't think that you can go superhuman with anger. I do think anything is possible. I also think that chi could burn someone. I saw a guy that could manipulate energy and he made a chi/ki ball and they used a thermal imaging camera and took a pic of his hand(where the ball was) and it was about 200 degrees farenheit. I'm sure that would burn someone. And stop making fun of DarkChakra by saying he's a DBZ freak. Dark, try to get ur friend to tell the truth. He could be lying.
i dont believe that some guys friend has done it, always sounds like BS when you say my friend said he did it, get your friend to show you! get him to knock over a can with a ki ball that will prove it to you at least then you can spread the word from 1st hand experience.
I did once see a chi kung master or something like that, he had someone stand on one side of a wall and he was able to send his chi through the wall to knock the guy back, it was on some site, but was ages ago so cant remeber where it was, im always very skeptical about video as it is easily faked but i like to think, to myself at least, it was real. if it was possible then i would say it would takes years of practice and energy work to even knock over an object , if it was as easy as your friend said darkcha then we would all be runing around knocking everything down with our "ki" :P
We had a "superhuman" like this once visit Latvia. He demonstrated pushing his assistants to the ground with chi-balls, but it was obviously fake. The assistants kept making "Ooomph" sounds and then lie down carefully.
He promised he would make clouds disappear for one of our national festivities - when he was asked to demonstrate it, he stared in the skies. Now, there were many rain clouds in the skies, bu he just stared at a wee little cloud, until it blended with the large ones. Of course, he said proudly he had did it.
Then he promised to make our president young forever - after which we didn't see this superhuman ever again.