Empathic moment?

[twstedrage]

I have had a few moments like that, however I never felt like I have gotten hit with a mallet before but sometimes someones emotions are so powerful and I feel them. Like this one time someone in the other room was craying and I felt the emotion so strongly that I was crying for no reason and I am a person that rarely cries. So I think it is very well possible that you had an empathic moment. However I am still in the stage where my abilities are random and peoples thoughts are like background whispers and by chance I pick up on something. Anyways I hope you continue to have more empathic moments, but I hope they feel alot better and a better experiance then that one. Also I was told to read up on Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce especially the New Energy Ways part, might want to check up on it. I am reading his book now and its good stuff. Well good luck.

Robert

[emitremmus]

However I am still in the stage where my abilities are random and peoples thoughts are like background whispers and by chance I pick up on something.



what if the majority of the time its only when a person is stoned that they hear another persons thoughts(as background whispers)?and also,is it possible that a persons hearing is so good that they hear the thoughts of other people.or is that ridiculously crazy,cause brain waves are different than sound waves....[?][xx(]someone help....im totally discombobulated.

[twstedrage]

Well first of all I never do drugs, they don't agree well to me so can't answer that one. However I can tell you at first I never noticed the whispers to what they really were. I figured it was normal. Then as I got older I starting hearing whispers and people talking. I didn't think much of it untill I started working a tech support job and when I finally realized something was going on. I started hearing all my fellow employees talking but they werent it was there feelings and ideas in there head. I figured I was going crazy at first. I had to get out the building,and as I did leave to take a beak outside, the vioces started to go away. That is when I realized that I was not crazy, because it was different when I was alone vs. even in a totally silent room. If it was quiet but people in the room, I head whispers and sometimes vioces, but if I was alone, things were peaceful. However I am so used to the background whispers that it doesn't feel right to be alone as funny as that sounds. But anyways to answer your question more from what I have been reading up on trying to figure out how to basically grow and control my empathic abilties that it has to deal more with the third eye chakra then anything else, I haven't found anything that states what you have said but it would make sense and I have thought that way too, just nothing to go on that way yet. Or the other answer that I have heard is that it could be that the thought waves are on a different astral plane that some people are in tuned to that astral plane, they go through the same space, but most people can not pick it up because they aren't in that plane. I am determined to find the answer too but I have not found it yet. Hope this helps or maybe someone else will take it from where I left off.

Robert

[Ossian]

I've never "heard" whispers in a literal sense but I understand what is meant my whispers, I would say "ambient presence".  Personally I experience such stimulus by feeling it, sometimes as tactile sensation (pressures, tightness in different places, ect.) But with most "whispers" I feel it in an internal way.

On a different note, from my recent investigations, I believe that we would call "whispers" or "ambient presence" is what is molded into a spell (sometimes referred to as a wraith) during one major form of ceremonial magic.

As for the drug reference, I have always had something of a revulsion from chemicals (I don't take aspirin so getting stoned seems a little ridiculous).  I have engaged in the ceromony 3 times in my life.  The first time I had no effect.  The second time I had no effect.  The third time (all about 1 year apart, the most recent 2 years ago) I had a definite result.

I felt like hell, something like a bad flu with extreme vertigo.  However, as the sensation lasted quite a while, I had time to examine my state (as I could do little else).  I found that beneath the major symptoms that made me want to dig out my brain with a spoon there were some major energetic sensitivites present.  Something like what happens with an extreme fever, you trance, in a primitive sense, and as such I wouldn't be surprised if when you are "stoned" your tendancies to ignore such input as "brainwaves" of others.  It may be signifigant to add that my first experiences with empathy occurred during "touch intensive" as well as emotionally intense situations.

I would like to add that every single individual I have ever had contact that attempted to use drugs (especially marijuana) to accelerate their quest for spiritual ability has eventually succumbed to the soul numbing apathy of the substance.  If we could have a few empaths register in on what a stoned individual "feels" like it might be educational.
 
It might also be productive to have people mention exactly how their abilities manifest.  Whispers, Voices, Feelings, Intuition, Smells, Visually, you name it.  Also, how do you think living an empathically has affected your life and your perspective on the world?

Ossian[]

[twstedrage]

Well as fas as when my abilties started its hard to say. For things like deja vu and visions of the future I have had as long as I can rememeber. I can rememeber times where I have had a dream when I was 4 and the next day everything happens exactly like that dream. Tried telling my parents and they told me I was full of it. I also have gotten warning visions of something right before it happens for the longest time too. I can rememeber all through school sometimes people would touch me and I would get pictures in my head or maybe its more like a video clip of something in that person's life. I also seemed to know people really well and was a very good councilor to helping people with their problems and digging up the past.

Alot of my childhood is forgotten do to an abusive farther and repressed memories. I have recently opened up some but not all of them. So between the repressed memories and my parents telling me that there is no such thing, it wasn't till I was living on my own and away from my catholic is the only religion parents, that I started to get more feelings of deja vu and more empathic moments. Now it seems like my whole life I have seen and lived before. I might not remember it when it happens but once it does it's like I have seen this before. As far as my abilities changing my life well the deja vu part makes me think well I have seen that truck before that I have it so abviously I am going to get it, but if I would have remembered also the crappy deal I got I would have said no. So the deja vu part can help me and hurt me. As for warning visions that I get, they sometimes are too late to help me, like I know I will get hurt too late right before it happens, but alot of times it keeps me in order. The only draw back is I don't know if it was my abusive father from the past or the warning visions that I am so used to, but I have no fear of anything, death, what is to come and so on. I live live very easy going and stress free.

As far as my empathic abilities which was the real question, they have made me a more giving helping person more then anything. I used my abilties all the time to help people and council them the best I can. I can get images of past to dig up and can see glimpses of what might be to come for them. Although sometimes no matter how hard I try to stop something it seems like it is set in stone and still happens. I also have found my gifts give me better jugement of people. I can tell when someone is shady and when even if it is deep down inside is a good person. I also used to use those gifts to make money in bets when I was in high school used to bet guys they couldnt pick up certain women because I could tell they would never be interested and well that was short lived because I was always right and didn't figure I needed to be wrong a few times.

My empathic abilities seem to be more visual and in a way intuition about something I get an idea for that the person needs help with. Sometimes and its beginning to happen more I get a persons vioce in my head and I go what and who ever is around and they said they said nothing and I would go noboady has said this and they will go I was just thinking that. Then also I think the whispers or ambient presence, is probably related somewhat to the vioces that sometimes pop up. They have always been there as long as I can remember. As far as smells I don't think I have ever smelled anything. Overall I think I use my abilties to make me a better person and help people. I mean what good are they if I keep them to myself. Hope this helps more.

Robert

[Lickerish]

Ah Shorty, its good to see that you have had an empathic experience!
Too bad it was a negative one though.
Anger tends to be a violent and upseting emotion so perhaps that can explain the feeling you experienced in your chest.
I hope that you're next experience will be a more pleasant one!
                        Lick

[harlequin_star]

hmmm, doesnt seem like an empathic experience to me. . .but i guess everyone has em different so i might be wrong. You'd know if it was empathy. . .it overtakes you from nowhere sometimes and you're usually connected to the person at the time.
   As for getting the feel froma stoned person. . .it's a bit odd (there are alot of stoners at my school) I usually get real sleepy or drowzy suddenly. .but i always try to have a shield up ALWAYS, even though sometimes i dont pay attention and get totally kamakazee'd.
But the thing about religion was interesting. . i think thats true for alot of people. .you'll try to tell you're parents whats happening to you and they dismiss it (my parents say its "on the devils side" so i try never to bring it up) but once you get away from that negativity you can explore yourself.

[shorty]

Hi all! Today in school, I think I had an empathic moment. I was standing by the cafeteria, and a fight broke out near me. What I felt was like a mallet hit me in the chest repeatedly. Afterwords, I felt drained as though I had used a lot of energy for something, so I atributed that to the moment withth the fight. Am I right? Could it have been  a moment where I experienced empathy?

Thanks,
Michael