Spirit Keyboard

[kifyre]

http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/

This is research on how intent and consciousness impinge on the outcome of random physical events.

I've been thinking about how to use this kind of thing for communication too... Us engineers...

Mark

[Adrian]

An interesting concept in general terms - providing a visual communications interface between the spirit worlds and the physical!

On the basis that communication is telepathic, the logical (and I am not saying feasible),is to provide a means by which telepathic communications can be converted into digital format, i.e. "0's" and "1's", and subsequently displayed onto a screen.

It might even be possible by measuring vibrations and translating that into binary digital output. Well in theory anyway.

If such a thing were ever invented it would be easy enough to test - just project out and send a message!

[Rob]

Hmm, all interesting

kifyre: Yeah that could spanner it quite badly....see my way of working it below, I think there may be ways of removing those factors. Another engineer eh? Unlucky mate! Methinks it is quite a dull subject...

Adrian: Telepathic keyboard, whoa now that would be something, but is even more over my head I think! If I remember correctly, there have been some medical discoveries which could point the way to how telepathic communication could work on a physical/biological level (or closer to). Something to do with measuring changes in EM fields, so who knows, perhaps telepathy already is in binary (of a type)?

OK this is a rough plan of how I think it could happen: It would look very similar to a normal keyboad, only with no moving parts. As the spirit finger goes down towards a key, the resistivity of (not coiled) very thin wires below it (which are constantly being monitored, in each key) should change with the look of a parabola (one way up or the other). By checking the rate of change, and total change of resistivity you should be able to say what is going on. Of coarse, other nearby keys would experience a similar effect, which would probably help to give a higher degree of certainty that something is pressing the keys.
Linked to a computer, natch. The program wouldn't be too difficult, and I know enough hot programmers.
I want to make one! But lacking equiptment, and am not sure I really want to discuss it with my tutor quite yet....he'd probably think I was nuts!

"It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it" - George Bush lol

[kifyre]

Ok, here's my current plan. Patent pending and all that nonsense, but only to keep it out of corporate hands. (Not that any business will be trying this anytime soon!)

It's been proven that human (and therefore probably spirit) consciousness can affect physical events. See the book "Reinventing Medicine" or my above link for references.

Now consider a true random number generator built off of current flowing through a resistor, light diffracting through air, brownian motion, seismic activity, whatever. All it is, is a bit. At any given time, it's either a "1" or a "0". So you've got a random bit.

Now consider a two dimensional array of these guys, big (lots of bits), and "fine-grained" (the bits are really close together). So you've got a big grid of little points; it'd look like static if you could visualize it. Now, connect this setup up to a computer. The computer will continually sample the grid, it'll take "snapshots" every millisecond or whatever. Then it'll be continuously taking a time average--"smearing" snapshots together.

On top of this will be a running a software pattern matcher. What will this being doing? Trying to match pre-defined glyphs, symbols, letters, whatever out of the smeared static.

A person or spirit would focus/visualize the letter "A" or whatever on the surface of the grid. In some subtle (or not so subtle) way, that "A" would manifest in the random activity of the grid, subtly more "1"'s, in the vague shape of an "A" over a (short) period of time. If the pattern matcher grabs it--sees it--then it's printed onscreen, and you know to move onto the next symbol. You can send a message in pre-arranged characters or symbols.

So, making use of the computer to catch really subtle stuff in an organized way over time.

It'd be easy to test, just grab a person with good concentration skills who can hold basic shapes clearly in his or her head.

I'm going to do this eventually, God knows when, when I actually have enough knowledge and time. But it's really a pretty simple idea.

Does that more or less make sense?

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Inguma: I'll admit the details are killer, but in a twisted sort of way, engineering isn't *that* bad. I guess. Sometimes. I'm electrical / computer plus whatever random classes I can squeeze in. How about you?

Mark

Edited by - kifyre on 17 February 2002  18:42:17

[Kristen]

Hi All,

Interesting discussion - biofeedback research might be worth looking into for the purpose of your discussion:  http://www.7hz.com

Also, applied research in artificial intelligence for other ideas about communication interfaces and other things.

Take care,

Kristen

[kifyre]

quote:Interesting discussion - biofeedback research might be worth looking into for the purpose of your discussion:  http://www.7hz.com

That's an excellent point. Apparently our bodies can easily sense things we consciously can't. Check this out:

http://www.bodytalksystem.com/

It's a healing system that communicates with innate/higher intelligence using muscle testing. (Give me a yes, give me a no. It's like divination using someone's arm. )And it really seems to work. I've had it done several times. It helped with my lower back. Also, I had an overactive chakra, that I said nothing about to the practitioner ( I didn't know if he knew anything about energy systems) and, five minutes into the session, "I have to balance your base chakra." It totally freaked me out. And it worked.

Maybe a person's autonomic functions can be harnessed to communicate with stuff... who knows?

Mark



Edited by - kifyre on 17 February 2002  22:50:38

Edited by - kifyre on 18 February 2002  00:10:54

[Rob]

Nice nice nice!

Yeah I understand that, took a couple of minutes, I'd love to know whether it would work! I suppose it comes down to what the unconscious mind is capable of, as I am guessing it would have to go through that as a channel. Therefore an easily variable random generator might be best? I mean, perhaps not  seismic activity, using magick principles that might require a bit more energy. But yeah the rest sounds solid! If it didn't work, a simpler way would be to measure muscle impulses like those bodyworker people do, and see if you can get patterns from that. You think it could be used for anything? (hey, I am an engineer!)

Engineering...hmm, you are probably right. It is kinda do-able, I don't actually know anyone who really enjoys their course anyway so I cannot complain (too much, lol). I'm mechanical, on a general course which specialises at the start of 3rd year - probably go into automotive (I want to be the first person to put a zero-point energy drive into a car, an environment-saving step for mankind and a bit of $$ for me!)

[Adrian]

Not sure about a "zero point energy drive", but the Japanese (I believe it was) have demonstrated an engine which runs on hydrogen gas. It ran very well too!

The bye product of course is water - the two atoms of hydrogen combines with an atom of oxygen upon combustion.

Not sure about several million cars churning out water from their exhausts though - it's wet enough here already! It would almost certainly be permanently cloudy with mist, fog or a fine drizzle.

[Myfreaky]

I would highly reccommend visiting Konstantinos' website (www.konstantinos.com).  He is a medium that teaches how to use technology to contact deceased spirits.  In his book "Contact the Other Side" (a WONDERFUL read!) he briefly mentions how he worked with a spirit on trying to get it to type characters on his computer.  he claims it worked, but the spirit he was working with claimed that it was too difficult for him to do, and no longer wanted to try.

Anyway, I reccommend the book to everyone interested in contacting the other side!

[Lorax]

Instead of rigging up a keyboard for communication with spirit, designed with exacting specifications, and utilizing the epitome of state of the art fiber optic cables, coils, and other such things, couldn't you just talk to the dead while out of body?  It's not as much work as the elaborate keyboard idea, but seems much more practical.

[Rob]

Lorax: How many people can astral project? An extreme minority. What I want to do is allow the average guy on the street to be able to contact, without interferance, lost relatives and loved ones. There are so many other possibilities too. And hell, I wouldn't be an engineer if I didn't try and apply these things to technology!
An easier way than OBE is telepathic communication, but again, most people would not be able to do or even accept this.
If I can get it to work, it will be quite a big step for mankind.

[Lorax]

Interestingly Bruce Moen in his second or third book, Voyage to Somewhere said he saw scientists working on such a telephonic device that would allow normal people to communicate with the deceased.  When I first read it I thought it would be some break through technology making all of the newspapers and the morning talk show rounds.  Now I wonder if perhaps Mr. Moen got confused in his OBEing and ended up on the set of the movie Frequency.

[Rob]

Now I think this is metaphysics..

An idea I had the other day:

Energy bodies and the subtle fields produced can be picked up using very sensitive equipment, as I think can ghosts. And so it should be very possible to create a keyboard, which spirits can use, perhaps even astral projectors and thoughts form creations (/servitors/etc). Does anyone have any thoughts on this – ie RB says that the RT zone acts like a mirror to the physical, but I still think projectors should be detectable.....tho not sure. I think the way the energy fields are picked up is by measuring tiny variations in the local electrical resistivity, but again, I am not sure and if anyone could point me in the right direction t'would be appreciated (books/research/whatever - I need more info!)
If it is possible, you can be sure that some day I will make one. The implications....would be huge