The way you lay it out, piecing it together, is really a good way to discredit the material without giving it proper focus and effort in reading it thoughtfully.
If anyone is actually interested in reading it, start from the beginning of "The Wave Series".
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/waveindex.htm
I have also summed up the transcripts on another forum, WRH. It's in its own section: "Cassiopaea". You'll have to sign up. I was only a member of this forum briefly.
http://hraunfjord.com/whatreallyhappened/viewforum.php?f=19
The latter url is for those who don't have the time to read the full content of the Wave series. It is a large quantity of the transcripts.
Namaste.
OMG now i see; BlackBox is a Cassiopaean fanboy!!
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OMG now i see; BlackBox is a Cassiopaean fanboy!!
I'm rooting for the Zeta's myself. [:P]
But seriously, does anyone know of any prophecies or anything compelling that Cassiopaean channelings have revealed? I see a lot of "these guys are STS but we're STO", and "bad things are happening soon", but I'm still yet to see anything compelling.
They also blamed Israel for the WTC 9/11 thing and said the real planes were transported to 4th density and what we saw were US government drones crashing. I honestly can't see any verification of these things though I'm still waiting.
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They also blamed Israel for the WTC 9/11 thing and said the real planes were transported to 4th density and what we saw were US government drones crashing. I honestly can't see any verification of these things though I'm still waiting.
Hahaha that's ridicules!
If you want you can see alien theories behind everything, but the truth (at least mine) is that we humans are more than capable of making a mess of things ourselves.
Thanks for posting this channeling.
This has all got a very familiar feeling to it.
I listened to the whole broadcast at this frequency,
while it felt fantastic it also didn't somehow 'catch' me
that much. Gave fun points to speculate on though.
I still get the feeling from this that it is junk
with very little truth in it. Feels the same like
I would read a good fiction. As far as I can tell,
this is not from my own belief system but what it feels
like, since I tend to 'believe' everything at once. [:D]
For the prophecies, many prophecies tend to fall because the
future is not set for us experiencing it. This is the neatness
with a system like structurized random chaos. Free will [:D]
As for the secret goverment if there exists one. Everyone
resisting change will in the end be crushed like flies. Try
to resist the flow of the Universe and you might get what I
mean. [}:)]
http://www.rael.org/english/index.html
Click on Rael-tv at the top, then watch the UFO Truth. Now sit back and have a hardy laugh. [:D]
Akensai,
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OMG now i see; BlackBox is a Cassiopaean fanboy!!
The Cassiopaean text was something I read about a year ago. From reading the transcripts, the way they structured the search for objective truth VS the perception of limiting reality through a subjective angle was highly resonating experience for me.
"The Wave" series is what I valued primarily. I do not read their news page nor do I necessarily believe in their political views. I merely resonate highly with the C-transcripts themselves. The way to truth is not fanatically clinging to one source, it is through examining every piece of knowledge out there, every apple, and to find their intersections by cross and lateral referencing. I'm an 'intersection' fanatic, not a particular channeled source fanatic.
I personally feel the C-transcripts are the closest thing to objective-truth on this planet. That's my personal take and from looking through these pages of endless Zeta-like talks and Sanada-wanna-be's like AA-Michael, you sure don't need to alienate away the single C-enthusiast.
The C-transcripts are nothing in similarity to the Raelian movement. The Raelians are actually quite similar, and in my opinion in the same boat as 100% of the other channeled/mediated sources on this forum, as most of their belief-system follows in line with the Thiaoouban Prophecy and all of that "the mother ship is coming to pick us up, yeee-haaa" new-age propaganda. COINTELPRO.
I must have typed a couple paragraphs at least just now, trying to explain my view-point of why I think the C-transcripts are so valuable. But I deleted it because I don't have the energy to focus on defending something that I have put much time prior in analysing and examining. I personally didn't believe it at first. I had a skeptical mind on it all. But when I started referencing, by my attempts to prove their allegations incorrect, everything lined up. So I'm a supporter of their specific message because I have put countless of hours trialing the transcripts, bit by bit.
Namaste.
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I personally feel the C-transcripts are the closest thing to objective-truth on this planet. That's my personal take and from looking through these pages of endless Zeta-like talks and Sanada-wanna-be's like AA-Michael, you sure don't need to alienate away the single C-enthusiast.
Closest thing to objective truth you say. WHY?
I'm not sure if your going to answer that, it doesn't matter, because let me tell you. We know so little of things we can not possibly say if the "C-transcripts" are objective truth or objective garbage. Neither can I or you say that any other channeling is false/un-objective.(I hope I don't have to explain why) What bothers me about you is you act like you know, you go around judging others and you come up whit what, the Cassiopeaens? Debunking other beliefs and praising your own. THAT in my book making you come very close to being a fanboy. (There are less pleasant words for it to)
Ahh, thought I got a bit sidetracked,
got to check those c-scripts then [:)]
The most valuable thing in these channelings
is the fact that you filter out the 'crap' from it
yourself. That way you get the most of it.
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Sanada-wanna-be's like AA-Michael, you sure don't need to alienate away the single C-enthusiast.
You have yet to prove anything objectively still blackbox. Show us these so called channelings that AA Micheal is "a copy of." Then we can actually have a discussion instead of useless dogmatic rambling.
As for the casseopeans I had a hard time finding anything in the way of actuall channelings on thier site, could someone link me to the actuall main channeling part?
http://www.vincentbridges.com/cassIntro.html
It starts out simple, depicting ideas that coincide with the alchemical law of 'As Above, So Below' and Toltec philosophies of the dualistic relationship that exists within the materialized Universe.
We, as a species in 3rd Density, are inbetween two points of references. What is above us, such as the cosmos in extremity, and that which is below us, such as nature. By above and below, I mean to imply what is consciously aware in lower densities and higher densities, and definately not to judge any life on any plane to be higher or lower in importance. Life is a conduit, where the beginning point and the ending point are both the same. This means all points are of equal value.
There structure in the cosmos. There is structure in nature. We can assume by that, that their structure in our density also. Structure in the cosmos can be symbolized by two big points of reference.
1.) Black-Hole
2.) Star/Sun
They represent the major duality in the Universe which plays its way down in importance all the way down to our density. The Black-Hole represents sustaining 'oneself' by means of sucking energy from ones environment and whatever exists within that environment. A Star represents sustaining oneself by radiating and producing energy of its own accord, and emitting that energy outwards. The former takes and destroys life while the latter gives and creates life. It could also be theorized that they work together in dark-matter existence to form a Universal recyclement of energy and therefore matter.
A person in 3rd Density can either choose to give and create or take and destroy. In our reality it is a mix of both. We are all dominantly acting (of the 6 billion) more like black-holes than we are as stars. Most of our humanly interactions always have active energic-vampirism which occurs naturally from higher concentrations to lower concentrations, but which also occurs by intention.
Structure of the Universe - Determined by the level of awareness you look at it - Labelled Densities:
1st Density - Entity has sensations - Ie. Snail
2nd Density - Entity has sensations + relations - Ie. Dog - A dog knows his territory. A dog knows 'that' is the Sun, but it does not know that everyday the 'same' sun comes.
3rd Density - Entity has sensations + relations + concepts - Ie. Human - A human knows that the 'sun' he/she sees everyday is the same sun. It theorizes and conceptualizes.
4th Density - Entity has another level of awareness that I cannot label. It may be out of my vocabulary. It allows the 4th Density entity to exist outside of the restrictions/illusion of 'time'.
5th Density - Recyclement Density of Densities 1 - 4. Christians would label this as "Heaven" or "Hell", even though these labels are ignorant due to lack of knowledge, lack of awareness.
6th Density - Entities no longer have physical-composition and can only be labelled as 'thought-forms'. At this level, the Universe is viewed objectively for everything it is.
7th Density - Entities are ONE with everything. The big bang. The body of the Universe. "God", I guess.
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Now the dualism of physical composition VS ethereal composition are important in densities, as 'awareness' determines ultimately everything.
1st Density, 2nd Density, and 3rd Density:
Physicality in composition is strongest from 1st Density while ethereal-composition is lowest. Physicality becomes less dominant, subtly, as ethereal composition (awareness) rises from 2nd Density to 3rd Density, where ethereal-composition leaks out as our 'spiritual' awareness.
4th Density:
Entities exist in 'variable physicality', which means they are equally ethereal in composition as they are physical. Their reality is exactly as they mentally project it. It is what they manifest it to be. For STS (black-hole) entities, this leads to heavy manipulation, while STO (star) entities objectively exist in a harmonious, natural existence. Time is no longer an illusion and in 3D perspective, the moment one graduates to 4th Density, it is already in 5th, 6th, and 7th, and incarnated back into the cycle at 1st Density. That's a bad way of explaining it, but it's really interesting if you reflect on it.
5th Density - Ethereal composition is now dominant. Physicality is no longer evident.
6th Density - Ethereal dominance as 'thought-form'.
7th Density - Everything that is. The environment, time, stars, suns, ALL.
So basically the dualism between physicality and ethereal composition move in relation to each other with your level of awareness.
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All of the above has brought me to view life as objectively-as-possible. I know that my existence will always be biased and hence subjective, but I can still understand that perhaps the most resonating way to view the Universe is to imagine a big-school, graduating from one level to another, as you move from cellular existence to holistic existence.
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If you look at it backwards:
7th Density big bang initiates the ONE to fragment itself to 6th Density. 6th Density fragments itself to 5th Density. 5th Density fragments itself to densities 1-4.
Creation is fragmentation of the ONE to the MANY, and then LIFE (us for example) experiences existence backwards from the MANY to the ONE.
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All of the above is a good example of the objective-view the C-transcripts bring. There are thousands of pages from reading through "The Wave Series" that allow me to sum this stuff up. It cannot be critiqued 'fast' like SD tried to do on another thread. It takes time and effort to slowly go through the material. At the end, you discern between everything you read and decide if it resonates with you.
Since reading these transcripts, I moved from one source to another, discerning between the differences and finding the similarities. The intersections between all of the sources I examine is where I find support towards the objective truths. That is the only way.
Namaste.
[EDIT: No doubt you'll find MANY people like Vincent Bridges and Jay Weidner who strongly attack the C-transcripts. I've corresponded with Jay Weidner through many emails a while back, and he ended up being the most emotional, subjectively biased man I've ever spoken to. I've met too many intelligent scholars through the cass-circle to ever consider men like Bridges and Weidner of the same level of integrity. They have cruel tactics which do not lead me to believe they are wise or noble. They merely do a great job at discrediting themselves by their attempts to discredit the C-transcripts. The material is just way too humble for it to be ridiculed to that level.]
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All of the above is a good example of the objective-view the C-transcripts bring.
It's not objective at all, who is to say it really is like that?
Buddha said there are 31 planes, what do you say of that?
Don't get me wrong I don't care whose concept of reality is the right one; I just want to show you that what the C-transcripts bring you is only a concept, not necessarily the truth.
So isn't that a weak bases to criticize others on?
Akensai, you're definately right on your points.
But, alas, I do believe in the C's interpretation of objective-reality.
To each his own.
You know Blackbox, I seem to recall you posting the exact same information earlier.
Other than your limiting the planes to 7, the things that Michael has been saying isnt in any particular disagreement with what you just posted, except that Michael stresses the fact that these 'planes' are far more fluid, numerous and complex than what is presented in most channelings. In other words, he's trying to say that we shouldn't be dogmatic about things which are hard to understand from our physical perspective to begin with, and that utlimately we should find out about it on our own rather than relying on channeling sources that try to put everything into a neat little box. I find that the way in which Michael presents this resonates well with me, as I had suspected that the reality of the various dimensions was probably far more complex than what is usually thought of.
Furthermore, you still haven't given any actual evidence that these densities are as you describe them, other than saying "the Cassiopeans and several other channelings say it is this way." Besides, I seem to recall many other channelings, including Ra, making mention of the fact that there is more beyond 7th density.
As such, I don't feel that claiming Spectral is being afflicted by STDs, or STS or whatever simply because Michael presents this information differently from the Cassiopeans is a particularily valid criticism.
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Akensai, you're definately right on your points.
But, alas, I do believe in the C's interpretation of objective-reality.
To each his own.
Now your making sense.
To each his own.
Try to keep that in mind.
The thing about many channelings is that they can give you all of this abstract meaning of life stuff, but when it comes down to answering some specialized knowledge like a math equation or a subject the channeler knows nothing or little about the answers don't seem to come as good.
For example, its all good calling Arafat a peacemaker in '94 but what is he thought of as now? Is he still a peacemaker? Its possible he could be descended from Christ since I've heard he has Jewish heritage and technically well anyone could be descended and there is no way we could know for sure anyway.
But what about things that are verifyable like a space invasion? Should things that are told that aren't true diminish from the whole? But then again, who am I to say what is true?
I guess unless we are looking out the window into the "real" world there really isn't anyway to know for sure.
xx
I read through some of the first part of the Wave series. About the woman who would have been taken by ET's recalling all her memories through visions.
And again, what do we have here white skinned huge eye balled midgets and also information that is similar to the zeta thread! That's really a big bad bummer!
Does anyone believe in these creatures?
About STO and STS I'd like to share what I think right now.
They say that by being STO they are also STS right?
I think the point is that if every person out there has an STO attitude, it will be for the benefit of them all, so by serving others they are indeed serving them self as well, only through a way that doesn't cause disbalance.
Let's make an example. We have 10 units living together with 100 energy point;), who enjoy shooting eachother down. Unit 1 insults Unit 2 and steals 10 energy points. Bringing nr1 at 110 and nr2 at 90 points...Of course unit 1 will recover eventually but if this happens too often you can see what might happen.
When everyone is STO, you don't 'take' energy, but you 'give' energy, because you know you can trust on the others to do the same. And when I think about it, giving energy can't be seen as a loss at all, because it feels pretty good right? ^-^
And on the long term you'il cause eachother to gradually rise to higher vibrational levels as a group alltogether, instead of having a few energetic individuals at the cost of others.
What I say might be flawed, so be sure to correct me with the way you look at it.
Yes, you're speaking of the benefits of a circular-power-structure VS a pyramidal-power-structure.
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Yes, you're speaking of the benefits of a circular-power-structure VS a pyramidal-power-structure.
Wow you hit the nail right on the spot! That's exactly it. And here I go explaining it in a difficult way....ha ha ha!
I enjoyed your method though. More practical [8D]
What it comes down to is if we look at what 'structure' really is, from above or below our density, we can better organize and discipline our actions as to promote it rather than promote it's arch-enemy, chaos.
What I mean is: There are atoms everywhere. What is the relationship between atoms which form structures? Like a brick of a piece of wood, for example.
They (atoms) are EXTREMELY close to each other and harmonious to each other. When they act this way, they create. They form foundations which can create something far grander in size than their own cellular bodies.
If we want to promote CREATION in our comunities, organizations, governments, families, then we must have this type of power-structure. An atom isn't conscious in the manner that we are. It just acts. Because it just acts, it doesn't manipulate, and manipulation is only something that comes from a hierarchy, a status quo. Atoms don't 'want' things for themselves. If they did 'want', then a hierarchy could possibly be established at their level, and a status-quo would create a cause and effect for vampirism.
If we act in unison with everyone and they do the same, we promote structure. If we have ill-feelings towards our enemy and act towards giving them different treatment than we would our family and friends, then we ourselves, consciously or subconsciously, add to that hierarchy/status-quo. If we do that, we are not acting like atoms that form structure, we act like atoms that break-it-down, a.k.a. chaos.
So it comes down to: If we have vision, we work together. If we are narrow-minded, we work for ourselves.
silly social creature.
maybe this is about having the right ratio of chaos to order. if we worked together without expressing our individual needs then we would be hive-minded. do you know how much art a hiveminded society puts out? nil. do you know how much music or philosophy?
chaos is necessary.
this message has been brought to you by Yin and Yang, EQUAL partners since before your 11th great grandmother was born.
Moonburn, my comment was to Reality in discussing the circular-power-structure.
I value individualism in those regards also. However I'm not speaking of attributes such as creativity, innovation, etc, and their application for creations such as art...you are taking what I'm saying and pulling it down a slippery slope.
I am speaking in regards to our energy and in what ways we structure ourselves, independantly, as to not drain one another in a predator/prey interaction. I am saying that if we act in unison, harmony, and yes, in a hive-mindish approach in the way we circulate our energy, chaos occurs naturally as OPPOSED to by manipulation.
Chaos by manipulation comes from conscious agendas and motives, hierarchies and status-quo, self-proclaimed superiors over inferiors.
In such a circular-power-structure, that is where the hive-mind qualities end. It certainly does NOT impose itself over individualistic freedom.
And yes the Ying/Yang philosophy is well-known, but that does not mean it is necessarily well-understood.
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Originally posted by BlackBox
I am speaking in regards to our energy and in what ways we structure ourselves, independantly, as to not drain one another in a predator/prey interaction. I am saying that if we act in unison, harmony, and yes, in a hive-mindish approach in the way we circulate our energy, chaos occurs naturally as OPPOSED to by manipulation.
I can't speak for moonburn, but I would say that if you think about it, and the way the casseopeans seem to be portraying things, chaos does not exist in thier philosophy, everything seems structured. Thus I think this statement is nulled in that regard.
I would also like to note that while you would like to say you can make yourself balanced and perfect, chaos intervenes in that regard too. Nobody is perfect, and nobody ever will become perfect, otherwise life as we know it would not be. Balance should be strived for, but perfection is not needed. It makes life more interesting this way, for if there were nothing to strive for we would not truly be "alive."
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value individualism in those regards also. However I'm not speaking of attributes such as creativity, innovation, etc, and their application for creations such as art...you are taking what I'm saying and pulling it down a slippery slope.
I am not seeing this, I am seeing someone try and explain to you what he see's and has experienced through his own experiences. I believe what he said is well-biased and should be considered. If you try to structure everything then what happens is you lose the creativity you see in nature. Energy should work as it is in nature. While Bee's are natural they are not human, they are simple creatures with simple ways. If you apply this to energy then you have a practice that is simple yet limited. Again, I cannot speak for Moonburn but this is how I see the application of what he spoke of.
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Originally posted by SpectralDragon:
I can't speak for moonburn, but I would say that if you think about it, and the way the casseopeans seem to be portraying things, chaos does not exist in thier philosophy, everything seems structured. Thus I think this statement is nulled in that regard.
You are incorrect. The C's certainly do not portray things in that manner. SD, if you want to discuss the C's and their philosophies, please first read the material and the transcripts. Like I have said in my above post, chaos can either occur
naturally or by
manipulation. An example of natural chaos would be the transitions between the seasons. Fall to Winter to Spring. Chaos in nature. Chaos is unavoidable. However it can either occur naturally or be triggered by manipulation.
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Originally posted by SpectraDragon:
I would also like to note that while you would like to say you can make yourself balanced and perfect, chaos intervenes in that regard too. Nobody is perfect, and nobody ever will become perfect, otherwise life as we know it would not be. Balance should be strived for, but perfection is not needed. It makes life more interesting this way, for if there were nothing to strive for we would not truly be "alive."
I agree with the above, but this is off-topic, so I am wondering if you are just posting this for the point of putting in your opinion, brushing off what I am implying, or missing the point.
Moonburn is speaking about the hive-mind being imposed to
culture and expression. Ie - everyone think the same thoughts, act the same, smell the same -- in essence, smothering individualism.
I cleared this up, by saying that I am not indicating that a circular-power-structure be applied to a culture, but to the discipline of the ATOM, the CELL, or in our immediate reality, the individual. By disciplining ourselves in sustaining our own energies and circulating these energies harmoniously in an idealistic power-structure that is NOT dominantly present in our society,
vampirism is avoided. Vampirism is something that occurs from within a pyramidal-power-structure. It occurs naturally in this environment as it does by intention, which is
disruption of one unit for the gain of the other. Read Reality's post from which I am responding to and put this all in context.
I agree with what you have said, SD, but you are missing the point of what I'm saying. This is a Cassiopaean thread and I'm expressing expanded thoughts to Reality and those who are interested. If you disagree, that is fine. I have learnt from my past attempts (as of late -- Thank you Akensai) that everyone is suited for their own reality, and one cannot impose itself on the other.
Namaste.
"Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought. It always defeats order, because it is better organized."
- Terry Pratchett
Just a little distraction for you all from this deep and serious topic.
[:D]
James.
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Originally posted by SpectralDragon:
I can't speak for moonburn, but I would say that if you think about it, and the way the casseopeans seem to be portraying things, chaos does not exist in thier philosophy, everything seems structured. Thus I think this statement is nulled in that regard.
You are incorrect. The C's certainly do not portray things in that manner. SD, if you want to discuss the C's and their philosophies, please first read the material and the transcripts. Like I have said in my above post, chaos can either occur naturally or by manipulation. An example of natural chaos would be the transitions between the seasons. Fall to Winter to Spring. Chaos in nature. Chaos is unavoidable. However it can either occur naturally or be triggered by manipulation.
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Originally posted by SpectraDragon:
I would also like to note that while you would like to say you can make yourself balanced and perfect, chaos intervenes in that regard too. Nobody is perfect, and nobody ever will become perfect, otherwise life as we know it would not be. Balance should be strived for, but perfection is not needed. It makes life more interesting this way, for if there were nothing to strive for we would not truly be "alive."
I agree with the above, but this is off-topic, so I am wondering if you are just posting this for the point of putting in your opinion, brushing off what I am implying, or missing the point.
Moonburn is speaking about the hive-mind being imposed to culture and expression. Ie - everyone think the same thoughts, act the same, smell the same -- in essence, smothering individualism.
I cleared this up, by saying that I am not indicating that a circular-power-structure be applied to a culture, but to the discipline of the ATOM, the CELL, or in our immediate reality, the individual. By disciplining ourselves in sustaining our own energies and circulating these energies harmoniously in an idealistic power-structure that is NOT dominantly present in our society, vampirism is avoided. Vampirism is something that occurs from within a pyramidal-power-structure. It occurs naturally in this environment as it does by intention, which is disruption of one unit for the gain of the other. Read Reality's post from which I am responding to and put this all in context.
I agree with what you have said, SD, but you are missing the point of what I'm saying. This is a Cassiopaean thread and I'm expressing expanded thoughts to Reality and those who are interested. If you disagree, that is fine. I have learnt from my past attempts (as of late -- Thank you Akensai) that everyone is suited for their own reality, and one cannot impose itself on the other.
Namaste.
I will repeat this to you, for what I think is the fifth time, I have looked at it, and regardless of weather or not I have looked at it, you are not one who can impose this upon me against my will:
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SD, if you want to discuss the C's and their philosophies, please first read the material and the transcripts
You portray me as being negative, you portray, after several years of me helping people with psychic problems, that I am STS, you try and portray me as a fraud, and now you are trying to impose your will on me.
When I speak, I make quite sure of what I am talking about, thank you very much. Remember this next time you say I am full of it and that I need to "study up more."
One thing I would like to add:
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Like I have said in my above post, chaos can either occur naturally or by manipulation.
By it's own definition, chaos cannot be completely understood. Chaos happens when it will, and you cannot completely define when it will happen. Take a look at James' quote. While I don't like the abstract way the quote is it makes a very valid point.
Blackstream you still seem to make most of these judgements based upon assumptions like this:
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Vampirism is something that occurs from within a pyramidal-power-structure. It occurs naturally in this environment as it does by intention, which is disruption of one unit for the gain of the other. Read Reality's post from which I am responding to and put this all in context.
Vampireism is something that comes from need. It doesn't matter what kind of structure you have, if someone is desperate enough it will happen. I have seen enough cases of it to know.
Okay well, you're all making interesting points'. Hey before you continue reading I want you to check your shoe ties, because the moment you clicked on this topic, they 'magically' got untied. No I'm not kidding, you seriously should check that first! And while you're at it, try to figure a way to tell me how incredibly lame that joke was(or maybe it wasn't a joke at all, and your shoe ties actually did become untied!)
Aiiiiiight!
First, I don't think that I was inferring to a hive mind society without creativity. Nor I was promoting anything. I was trying to make sense out of the whole STO and STS concept, nothing more and nothing less. Moonburn, I dont understand how this would do away with individualism and creativity, can you explain? (that's not sarcastic!) It's not like there's a dictator that says you must serve others! To me it's indeed more of a discipline, that has to come from within and is benefitical for all.
And to my opinion spectral dragon is right that some resistance/chaos/whatever is needed to keep things alife. See it like this. There's two people holding a rope, pulling. If person A overpowers person B, it's a onesided/boring play. If both are almost equally powerful, with constant 'tension', it's an interesting; alife play. It keeps you alert, and therefore awake. [the persons playing, not the ones watching, because yes for them it would get boring eventually]
Then, James, you are cracking me up man! I was just thinking, what's up with chaos? To me that comment is even funnier then how truthfully it might be :D :D :D
Yeah people? Define Chaos for me please! What is it exactly? Is there such a thing as chaos? Or is it just an illusion? A thoughtform? A very funny joke? :D
You know thinking in terms of chaos and order makes me all serious and maybe a bit negative. Cant we just call it a very very funny joke versus a different but also very very funny joke? ;)
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Originally posted by BlackBox
It starts out simple, depicting ideas that coincide with the alchemical law of 'As Above, So Below' and Toltec philosophies of the dualistic relationship that exists within the materialized Universe.
1.) Black-Hole
2.) Star/Sun
They represent the major duality in the Universe which plays its way down in importance all the way down to our density. The Black-Hole represents sustaining 'oneself' by means of sucking energy from ones environment and whatever exists within that environment. A Star represents sustaining oneself by radiating and producing energy of its own accord, and emitting that energy outwards. The former takes and destroys life while the latter gives and creates life. It could also be theorized that they work together in dark-matter existence to form a Universal recyclement of energy and therefore matter.
I must say that I couldn't disagree more with the 'truth' "As above, so below". Since it in all ways seem illogical to assume that two
totally irrelevant things are like. Of course their value is the same,
but other than this I don't seem to find. In my ears this
is beginning to sound like some of those cheesy-trends [:o)]
You defined life with a very good view in my opinion with that
life is a conduit. Though it goes beyond this also [:D]
Anyway about the Black Holes and Suns I wish to correct you.
It is true that Stars are self-sustaining and radiating and
seems to create life in this dimension. But it is completely
untrue that Black holes takes and destroys life. Since Black Holes
are the ones that in the end 'keeps things glued together'.
If you go to a bigger scale with Stars & Black holes, you will
notice that Supermassive Black Holes seems to be a process that
leads to Starburst in a galaxy. The meaning of starburst is that
the rate of Stars getting born is accelerated to a very very high
rate in comparison to a 'normal' galaxy. So the truth is that
black holes are infact a larger factory of life than stars.
I'm not sure if I got it completely right but I bet you can
find more information about this on google on supermassive black
holes and starbursts.
Sorry this got a way of the thread topic but I find it to be
important information anyway [|)]
SD. Your point of reference, the only environment from which you draw your conclusions and experience, is a pyramid-power-structure.
In my opinion, you lack the ability to visualize and conceptualize the other side of the coin.
I'm not trying to impose my beliefs. This is a Cassiopaean thread and I am expanding on Cassiopaean thoughts. I find great merit in thinking outside of our assumed logic, but I cannot interact with an unresponsive wall.
That quote, James, is a good one. But keep in mind two things when trying to conceptualize on an environment that does not exist in our world: (1) That man (Terry) lived in this environment, under the same pyramidal-power-structure as we do, so he is describing IT and not an alternative. (2) I am not speaking of structure applied to our free-will. I am speaking of structure applied to our enery fields. The way we sustain and circulate them. The virtue of 'chaos' is not being generalized in my statements, it is being described as a natural event when specifically conditioned under a circular-power-structure.
Thanks Reality!
[:D]
I'm glad someone could see the humor in it.
For those that don't know him, Terry Pratchett is a comedic writer. His main series of books - the Diskworld novels, are a send up of all sorts of things, societies, scientific theories, etc. He is however a frighteningly intelligent writer, as one would have to be to convincinly poke fun at some very complex concepts as he tends to do a lot.
Probably best to sum it up with another quote of his -
"That statement is either so deep it would take a lifetime to fully comprehend every particle of its meaning, or it is a load of absolute tosh. Which is it, I wonder?"
[:)]
- James.
Hi guys, I've seen some interest on Cassiopeaens on these boards recently, so I thought I would start a thread discussing their channelings. I have spent a number of hours reading through the channelings and found some holes in them. I have all the channelings from 16/07/94 - 28/09/02.
OK here is a prophecy which hasn't come true.
Channeled July 23, 1994quote:
Q: (L) Do you have information for us this evening?
A: Space invasion soon. Four to six years. Battle between forces good and evil. Wait near. Look far. Listen.
Mexico falls; Ethiopia quakes; September both will happen. Near January: Paris bomb; London Blizzard, 109
die; Plane down in Tahiti; Cholera in Montana January. Government of U.S. behind California Quakes. Three
soon. Oklahoma political abduction in February. Big news.
The year is now 2004, and these havn't happened.
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Here is a prophecy which did come true, but I think a lot of people could have guessed it.
Channeling October 5, 1994quote:
Q: (L) Is OJ Simpson going to be found guilty?
A: No.
Also, on this next channeling Ra instead of Cassiopeans who they wanted to talk to came through. Does this mean these channelers can also not be 100% certain who they talk to?
Channeled July 27, 1994quote:
Q: We want to communicate with the Cassiopaeans.
A: I am Ra keeper of light.
Q: What are you here to tell us?
A: UFO not all bad.
Q: Why is the connection so bad tonight?
A: You see you are tired.
Q: [Unknown question.]
A: Level through 6.
Q: [Unknown question.]
A: Planet.
Q: [Unknown question.]
A: Always. Please let me go. It was clear that the energy was very weak on this last contact. It was also
curious that the character "Ra" came through and identified himself as a "keeper of light."
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I find this one interesting, it was channeled in October 7, 1994. Would this be aroud the time of the historic Isreal/Pelastine peace treaty?
Channeled October 7, 1994quote:
Q: (L) Were any of the descendants of Jesus famous individuals that we would know.
A: Yes. Yassar Arafat. Churchill.
It had also mentioned Arafat in a previous channeling same context as well as Pope V.
Now here is the context channeled later which is exactly what I was thinking why they would at the time think so highly of Yasser Arafat.
Channeled 22 October 1994quote:
Q: (L) On a couple of occasions it has been mentioned that Yasser Arafat was a fifth
density soul and that he was a descendant of Jesus of Nazareth. What is there about him that
demonstrates these qualities or these genetics?
A: Have you not seen? Imagine what it would be like to be Yasser Arafat. Look at your
perception. What is he doing now?
Q: (L) Well the pro-Jewish point of view is not favorable to him.
A: Well, what you describe as pro anything is an obsession. And, as we know, obsession
blocks knowledge which in turn blocks the ability to protect oneself against negative
occurrences. Not a good idea. If you were following circumstances, Yasser Arafat is now
trying to take the world upon his shoulders by making peace with the Israelis who have
been enemies for a very long time. And, therefore, he is now a peace maker and knowledge
dispenser.
Q: (L) In that particular conflict between the Jews and the Arabs, which side has the
greater validity?
A: All sides have equal validity. It is only with individuals we find negativity or positivity.
Taken in the year 2004 context, these words sound quite silly. Especially calling Arafat a peace maker and knowledge dispenser. He is now in hiding and the conflict is still very far from peace. My question is why would "we are you in the future" not have known this about Arafat and the Israel/Palestine conflict when it is so obvious to many of us 3rd density folk.
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And lasty here is an interesting one on STS and STO and who they serve, apparently its both. How? They serve themselves through others. That sounds exactly how an STS would operate to me by using others for their own purposes.
Channeled 22 July, 1994quote:
Q: (L) Where are you from?
A: Cassiopaea.
Q: (L) Where do you live specifically?
A: Live in omnipresence.
Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: All realms.
Q: (L) Can you tell us what your environment is like?
A: Too difficult at this time.
Q: (L) Well take a stab at it.
A: What is a stab?
Q: (L) Do you serve self or others.
A: Both. Serve self through others.
Here is there explanation given in a further channeling.
10 December 1994quote:
Q: (T) You talk about both STO and STS. Yet you tell us that we need to learn to be STO.
Why is there a difference between what we have to do and what you are doing?
A: STO is balance because you serve self through others.
Q: (T) You have said a couple of times that you are STS by being STO. Is this not true?
A: Yes. Already answered.
Q: (T) Kind of like: what goes around, comes around?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Is STO a means to an end for STS?
A: No. STO is balance. STS is imbalance.
Q: (T) How can you be STS through STO if STS is imbalance?
A: STO flows outward and touches all including point of origin, STS flows inward and
touches only origin point.
Q: (T) Well, they refer in the material that I am reading through, that they are STS through
STO. (L) They serve self BY serving others. (T) Is that what they mean? (L) Yeah. (T) Is
that what we're supposed to do, serve ourselves by serving others? (T) Yeah! Because
what goes around, comes around. If you serve others then you get things back. (F) Because
when you serve yourself, all there is is an infinite number of individuals serving self. (T)
There is no energy exchange, no synergy within the group; there is no exchange. (F)
Everything moves inward. (T) There is no sharing, no growth, there is no nothing. (F) No
interconnecting. (T) Right! There is no learning.
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Anyone know of any prophecies or anything they predicted that came true? I wouldn't have a clue if any of them have though I have seen many that havn't.