The Pleiades in Fact and Fiction

[James S]

Yes, balance is definitely a good thing, but it is important how that bablance is brought about.

I feel that the channelled information regarding the pole shift and other related events (with absolutely no disrespect to those doing the channeling, as some have proven to be well endowed with common sense), is somewhat akin to the "demon war" threads.

We have heard about quotes from channelers in the past giving us supposed dates for "the end of the world" which have not come to pass, and yet there are a great number of poeple who hang on to every word of these channelers, dare I say it - religiously, for more information about these events.

In contrast to this though, I have seen channeled information coming from this site that has nothing to do with end of the world prophesies, conspiracy theories and other such hidden agendas, but rather good practical and useful information to help guide those on a spiritual path.

It is the choice of the individual to either live their life in anticipation of some coming doom, or to live their lives to the fullest, believeing there is going to be a tomorrow. A person well advanced on their spiritual path, who has possibly been aided by channeled advice, will be someone who is learning to get the most out of the life they have now, and will probably be well equipped to cope with the change a pole shift or some similar event will bring anyway.

There is definitely a need to test the information you recieve from any spiritual source, be it aliens or angels. The test though is not necessarily against the findings of science, as science is nothing more than the orderly arrangements of the facts as we understand them at this point in time. The test is against your own spirit, your own intuition that tells you if what you hear strikes a chord with you or not.

There is a key phrase that is possibly the single most important element for all spiritual and metaphysical studies - KNOW YOURSELF!
Seek to know yourself first - your own heart, your own intuition. Learn to be guided by that intuition and it will serve you well in telling you what information that is out there is good for you or not.

While the mystics and their metaphysics, the channelers and their sources, and the sceptics and their science all sit around arguing over who's right, the student of spirituality who has learned to be guided by their intuition will come along, take a little bit of this, and a little bit of that, mix it together then hold it up against the light of their intuition - and a balanced view, and either discard it or use it as food to grow.

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Regards,
James.

[McArthur]

quote:Originally posted by James S
In contrast to this though, I have seen channeled information coming from this site that has nothing to do with end of the world prophesies, conspiracy theories and other such hidden agendas, but rather good practical and useful information to help guide those on a spiritual path.

Hi James, it seem we do agree on some things but i feel something needs to be said on what you say above. Regardless of what is being channeled on these forums these beings are also claiming to be the same race that zetatalk.com is channeling. Therefore if the information from zetatalk is questionable (and i have provided evidence that it is- and there is plenty more if you would like me to provide it) and these are the same beings being channeled here then questions must surely be asked as to what these beings are and why they are giving false information.

You seemed to have skipped over this very important part in the article i quoted;

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The Pleiades is a loose cluster of approximately 100 stars with an average age estimated at 78 million years. These are very young stars, much younger than our own Sun, estimated at 5 billion years old, much younger even that our own planet, Earth.

These are very hot, bright stars of spectral type B, much hotter and about 10 times more massive than our Sun, spectral type G. They have not yet moved away from the interstellar gas cloud, or nebula, from which they formed. Remmants of this nebula can readily be seen in photographs of the group.

It is because of this information that we know (not believe) about this star system that i asked you to ask your guide for basic information on thier home planet. Now i will say something in that thread about this.

[McArthur]

I do realize that me keeping asking questions of the Zetas and other "aliens" being channeled here may seem as though i am being somehow "negative" to those who believe and trust these beings. But all i am trying to do is offer a bit of balance to the subject and appeal to people to use their discernment and better judgement on some of the things these "Entities" are teaching.

I have already asked the Zetas why their prediction of a worldwide cataclysm they predicted to happen last year did not happen. No response, yet.

Here again i offer more evidence that these beings are either outright liars or merely giving out disinformation.

First a quote from zetatalk about the much advertised "Photon Band";

http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d17.htm
"Some of our brothers, the Pleiadeans and Sirians, have stated that the Earth will enter a Photon Belt soon, at an indeterminate time in the future. Why would this time be indeterminate? Do they not know the location of the Photon Belt, the rate of movement? This time is given as indeterminate because entry into the Photon Belt is not determined by the measurable movements of the planets and the motions of the galaxies. The entry into the Photon Belt is determined by the indeterminate behavior and decisions of humanity. Should the orientation of the Earth progress fast enough, so that the Earth would enter 4th Density, then the Photon Belt would be experienced. As it is, the entry into 4th Density is not expected for some years after the cataclysms, and the Photon Belt effects will be taken into consideration at that time."



Fortunately for those of us who still have the ability of critical thinking and dont blindly believe everything told us by strange "aliens" there are those out there who have investigated this Photon Band/Belt claim. Notice that the original claim was that Earth would pass through this Band in 1992. In a similar way that no poleshift happened last year, neither did the claim of the Photon Band happen.


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Visitors from the Pleiades and the Photon Belt


The following message, in two parts, concerns the February 1991 Australian Nexus magazine article "The Photon Belt Story", and channelled predictions of dates of July 23, 1992, or July 26, 1992, of Planet Earth's entry into the Photon Belt.

I received this message from a source that stated that he/she wished to be anonymous, and further that the writer also wished to be anonymous. I was asked to upload this information, and I am providing it, without further comment, for your interest.

Bob Laidlaw
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THE PLEIADES IN FACT AND FICTION.
EXPLODING THE MYTH OF THE PHOTON BELT:
Avid readers of Nexus magazine may well recall an article entitled "The Photon Belt Story", which appeared in the February 1991 issue.

I read the article with amusement and laughed it off as a joke, however, I have recently become aware that many people took this article seriously and that it has been the cause of some concern.

I am sorry to say that this story, as romantic as it may be, has absolutely no basis in fact. It appears to have become part of a modern mythology which has sprung up around the Pleiades, an open star cluster in the constellation of Taurus the Bull, contrary to current scientific knowledge. This mythology seems to be based on a heady mixture of pseudoscience, channelled messages from alleged space entities, biblical prophesy, ignorance and a liberal dose of naivete. It is fuelled by a general mistrust of our scientific community and misinterpretation of modern scientific thinking.

It is a sad reflection of the scientific education of our society that so many people can be taken in by a story that probably started life as a university student's prank.

For the benefit of those readers who have not read the article, the story, in brief, goes as follows:

In 1961 satellite borne instruments discovered a PHOTON BAND in outer space. This PHOTON BELT or MANASIC RING, which scientists have not been able to reproduce in the laboratory, encircles the Pleiades and extends the 400 light years to our solar system. Quoting someone called Jose Comas Sola, our sun and several other stars were said to be part of the Pleiades System and all these stars were said to have planets. Our Sun was said to orbit this system in 24,000 years, during which time we spend alternatively 10,000 years in the dark and 2,000 years in the light of the PHOTON BELT. We were said to be about to enter the light of the PHOTON BELT, whereupon, we would all be transformed "in the twinkling of an eye" into Atmosphereans and night would cease to exist, amongst other things.

A diagram accompanied the article showing 6 of the Pleiadian stars, Merope, Atlas, Teygeta, Electra, Coeleno and our own Sun in orbit around Alcyone, also a member of the Pleiades, encircled by the PHOTON BELT.

Having been contacted by several members of the public with queries about this story, I determined to sort the fact from fiction and track the story to its' origin.

The article had been reprinted with permission from Australian UFO Flying Saucer Research Magazine. A phone number had been given. The phone number proved to be that of a prominent South Australian UFO researcher, who told me that the story had originally been written by a university student who had been a member of his group at the time. This student is now apparently, a physicist at a well known nuclear facility. The UFO researcher, however, was not clear on where the student had obtained the information and had attempted to verify aspects of it with an astronomer at Mount Stromlo Observatory. I was unable to ascertain which aspects had actually been verified.

Fortunately, the astronomer concerned was known to me, so I paid him a visit. He vaguely recalled talking to the researcher but could not remember the exact details of the conversation. He assured me that he would never have verified the existance of the PHOTON BELT but may have given him some information on the Pleiades themselves. He told me that Mount Stromlo had also received queries about the PHOTON BELT and, like me, had considered the whole thing a cruel joke.

So, what is fact and what fiction? Well, for a start, I was unable to find any evidence for a satellite in 1961 carrying the instruments required to detect a PHOTON BAND as described. Satellites of the era were crude by today's standards and were more concerned with telecommunications, operating principally in the radio wavelengths.

Subsequent satellites and probes, with their sophisticated instrumentation, would certainly be capable of detecting the PHOTON BAND, however, no such thing has ever been reported. This is not a case of scientists keeping secrets, it is simply because it has never been detected.

According to other information I have received, this PHOTON BELT is supposed to be preceded by an ELECTROMAGNETIC NULL ZONE. This zone is said to be an energy vacuum, completely lacking in electromagnetic fields. If it existed, this NULL ZONE would certainly have shown up in the many sky surveys done over recent years on the Cosmic Microwave Background. This background radiation is remarkable because it is so evenly distributed over the entire sky. There are no gaps in its' distribution. The ELECTROMAGNETIC NULL ZONE does not exist!

The PHOTON BELT was also described as a MANASIC RING, a "phenomena which scientists have not been able to reproduce with laboratory experiments". I have been unable to determine the meaning of the word "manasic". I can only surmise that it is derived from the word MANA. It is hardly surprising that this has not been recreated in a laboratory as no-one really seems to know what MANA is, beyond its' dictionary definition as a mysterious power.

And so to the Pleiades themselves. Jose Comas Sola, whoever he may be, was either quite wrong or misquoted. Our Sun is not part of the Pleiades system, neither does it orbit the Pleiades every 24,000 years.

The Pleiades are approximately 125 parsecs or 407.5 light years from our solar system. A quick calculation shows that if our Sun were in this orbit, then its' orbital velocity would be 0.107C or a little over one tenth the speed of light. This equates to approximately 32,000 Km/sec. This velocity would be apparent, not only to astronomers, but to every one, as the constellations would change quite dramatically in the course of a single lifetime if this were true.

The Pleiades is a loose cluster of approximately 100 stars with an average age estimated at 78 million years. These are very young stars, much younger than our own Sun, estimated at 5 billion years old, much younger even that our own planet, Earth.

These are very hot, bright stars of spectral type B, much hotter and about 10 times more massive than our Sun, spectral type G. They have not yet moved away from the interstellar gas cloud, or nebula, from which they formed. Remmants of this nebula can readily be seen in photographs of the group. It has been suggested that this misty nebulosity, shining with the light of the stars within, is what has given rise to the myth of the PHOTON BELT.

Studies of the proper motions of these stars, or their movement through space, have shown that they are in the process of dispersion. There is no evidence that these stars orbit Alcyone as depicted in the diagram. It must also be said that there is no evidence of planets around any of these stars. It may well be that planetary systems may evolve around some of these stars, however, it must be remembered that these are very young stars and planetary formation may well take a lot longer than stellar formation. It seems unlikely that habitable planets have had enough time to evolve there. 78 million years is a very short period on the cosmological or geological time scale.

It is very pleasing to think of our planet coming out of the darkness and into the light, although I do not think our nocturnal fauna would agree. It is much better for each of us to seek emnlightenment within ourselves. This enlightenment cannot be imposed by external forces. A deluge of photons from the Pleiades will not save the planet, nor will it transform its inhabitants into enlightened Atmosphereans. We will have to solve our problems ourselves.


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(A supplemental post to the above - JS)
In a previous message to Bob Fletcher in the Contactee/Abductee echo, I said:

> I think there should be no difficulty in taking this message apart and
 > checking each point for accuracy, using existing scientific sources.
 > And I would encourage people to do that.  Also, I doubt it would be
 > difficult to follow up on the writer's source in Adelaide by following
 > the same line of enquiry.
This message quoted Agepal.txt, a file giving the scientific references in astronomical texts for the age, distance, and star type of the various Pleiades stars. This provides you with the opportunity to confirm this aspect of the Photon Belt Parts 1 and 2 material which I posted recently.

I decided to check the remainder of this material by telephoning the number given at the end of the Nexus article "The Photon Belt Story", Feb/Mar 1991 issue, page 6. I made this call yesterday evening, July 26.

Colin Norris answered, and said he was head of the Australian International UFO Research Society, mailing address GPO Box 2004, ADELAIDE, SA, 5001, AUSTRALIA. The telephone number is (08) 272 3131.

I explained the situation. Colin said that he was extremely embarrassed by this matter. He has had to apologise to numerous people who rang from overseas with great anxiety. He has received hundreds of letters.

The original article was published in his Society's magazine in 1981, about nine years before Duncan Roads asked permission to reprint it in Nexus magazine. Apparently it was co-authored by a lady, who tended to write sensational articles, and a young university student who is now employed as a physicist. He does not want to embarrass these people, or jeopardise their employment by revealing their names.

He said he did discuss the article with professional astronomers from the Mount Stromlo observatory, and they advised him not to worry about it. Again, these astronomers did not want their names mentioned because of professional commitments.

I then spoke to the Society's Secretary, Steve Lamont, who confirmed these details.

Colin and Steve gave permission to post this message. They said that the current "flap" appears to be caused by the predictions of exact dates, such as July 23 and 27, 1992. While these dates are now past, and as usual nothing has happened, it is possible that later dates have been predicted by channels in the USA, causing people further anxiety. I agreed to pass on any information that you may be able to provide, and it is hoped that you will please do so. If you prefer, you can contact Colin Norris using the phone number or mailing address given at the start of this message.


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