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Channeled Messages with Ascended Master Saint Germain

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Covelo

Hello My Friends,

I have recently found an excellent channeler of Saint Germain and here is an excellent message about how to connect with the light and love within us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRcPW5nli9k&feature=PlayList&p=D9C54398CBC6BF8B&index=0

Peace...
Covelo

PS- They have also started a group there on his main page where you can ask your own personal video questions and receive channeled video responses with St. Germain.
--Positive Energy--

kamals

These are serious questions, and meant as challenges. One who is weak or who is not a true seeker will simply fall back on what she, or he, wants to believe to be true. The one who is a true seeker may or may not appreciate the intent behind my asking these questions but willc certainly be able to rise to the challenge.

How do you know and verify that the entity channeled is, indeed, "Saint Germain"?

How do you know that, if this entity is Saint Germain, the messages were channeled with a useful degree of fidelity and that what you have before you is the actual message intended by this entity - after all a message is modulated by its medium, and the channeler is literaly the medium through which a message is transmitted.

Assuming perfect fidelity of the message and that the channeled entity is indeed Saint Germain, how do you know of the entity's beneficial intent, or given his beneficial intent how do you know it is actually a useful message?

In this vein there is a Pollyanna type of Spirituality that tends to assume that anything from "the other side" is indeed useful, in particular if their "intuition feels" a certain way about the message. If I walk down a street I may run into Bob who tells me a message out of love and good faith but there is no explicit assurance here that Bob is, indeed, even a useful source of information. If Bob's messages simply confirms my pre-set beliefs or inclinations I may be prone to give more due to Bob's information than I would to, say, Sanjeeb around the corner.

Does this make any sense? There is no attack here, only a sincere challenge and set of questions that you are free to disregard, or engage, as you will.

Tayesin

Quote from: kamals on June 17, 2008, 01:46:47
These are serious questions, and meant as challenges. One who is weak or who is not a true seeker will simply fall back on what she, or he, wants to believe to be true. The one who is a true seeker may or may not appreciate the intent behind my asking these questions but willc certainly be able to rise to the challenge.

How do you know and verify that the entity channeled is, indeed, "Saint Germain"?

How do you know that, if this entity is Saint Germain, the messages were channeled with a useful degree of fidelity and that what you have before you is the actual message intended by this entity - after all a message is modulated by its medium, and the channeler is literaly the medium through which a message is transmitted.

Assuming perfect fidelity of the message and that the channeled entity is indeed Saint Germain, how do you know of the entity's beneficial intent, or given his beneficial intent how do you know it is actually a useful message?

In this vein there is a Pollyanna type of Spirituality that tends to assume that anything from "the other side" is indeed useful, in particular if their "intuition feels" a certain way about the message. If I walk down a street I may run into Bob who tells me a message out of love and good faith but there is no explicit assurance here that Bob is, indeed, even a useful source of information. If Bob's messages simply confirms my pre-set beliefs or inclinations I may be prone to give more due to Bob's information than I would to, say, Sanjeeb around the corner.

Does this make any sense? There is no attack here, only a sincere challenge and set of questions that you are free to disregard, or engage, as you will.

Brilliant. I  have always had a problem with channeled info as I've watched some people who claim to be channeling only to find it is their ego wanting to channel... the messages have always been the same. We know everything changes, so why do these messages remain the same, surely if there is such a thing as a higher power it could tell us something we haven't heard before to make us stand up and take note, lol.

And, everyone of the channeler's use a strange form of speech, with a lot of "that which is" type of wording. And I know the believers will jump on this statement and say, but that is how they spoke in their time, etc. Hogwash. They spoke completely different languages with different syntax, and even though spirit crosses all languages there is no need for all the 'wordage'. In my experience when I get a message it is clear cut, no ifs or buts, no confounding "olde worlde speak", just straight to the point and it is up to me then to do what I choose with it.

For me, when another 'higher' being wishes to use me as a channel I get tunnel vision and my body begins visibly shaking although I do not feel it... eventually if I allow it, my awareness moves aside to allow the being to use the body. I choose not to let it happen... just tell me what they want to say and I will share the information.

Lastly, what is the big deal with the sudden rise (last 10 years or so) of messages from The Ascended Masters? If all of you only knew YOU are ascended masters, then you might not wish to give so much credence to what is around today.

Covelo

Thanks for the thoughts you guys.  I have posted this information up as it was presented to me, and put it up because it had very relevant and valuable information to me and I wish to share this with others.  Anyone taking a look at the videos can decide for themselves what they will, and they can take up these questions you have with them, or with yourself... not with me.  I think you will just be your own judge and it's not my job to answer your questions about the validity of this.

As to the rise of Ascended masters activity in the world:  Maybe we are coming to a time of great change and transition and the masters are coming back in more ways to help us all go through this transition.  Also the rise of information exchange in the world has increased drastically with the internet so this may have a lot to do with the increased activity with this kind of information.

It seems like you may have a touch of animosity in your veins there Tay... why would you be against the idea of receiving more information coming from ascended masters?  Myself, I think we should be open to receiving higher wisdom in as many ways as possible... but I know that everyone has their own preferences as to what they are comfortable with... and I respect your opinions and words.

These so-called channeled video messages with Saint Germain all seem to be quite positive, thought provoking, and very clear... I don't really see anything "wrong" with them.  They do seem have the tendency to challenge us to move beyond our limited and judgmental thinking habits, which can be very uncomfortable to the analytical mind.

I like to be positive, clear and expansive in expression and this kind of stuff is right up my alley.

Peace, my friends...
Covelo
--Positive Energy--

Covelo

--Positive Energy--

Tayesin

Quote from: Covelo on June 18, 2008, 01:50:21
It seems like you may have a touch of animosity in your veins there Tay... why would you be against the idea of receiving more information coming from ascended masters? 

Hi,
I'm not against receiving more information, nor have animosity towards channelers. I know we are all Ascended Masters. We have ascended from many worlds prior to this one. I know that raising your own awareness to merge with your higher-self is one of the most natural and simplest things we can do, after all we are humans secondarily.

I do have a problem with not hearing anything new from any or all channelers, as the same messages are being repeated over and over, which you can also read in millions of books. I am against the keeping of the Status Quo, where almost everyone seeks answers and understanding from external sources, when everything you need is already within you.

There are so many channelers who are Ego based, a real channel moves awareness aside for the other being to have the use of the body, whereas most channelers these days consider that getting messages through is channeling. I've been to channeling classes to see what was being taught and it was absolute dribble. I know people who paid megabucks to spend a weekend with a very famous channeler and what they received was nothing they couldn't already get from their own practices and their bookshelves at home.

One very famous older-aged female channeler who claims to channel an extremely old being (only 35,000 years old and still an embryo in the bigger picture) has a massive following of believers, and they learn so many "spiritual" things in the classes that they do not question any of it! "What is the purpose of this?", is a good question at any time.

The world is full of dis-information, as it should be in this time, but how many people are really discerning when it comes to "believing"? Very few indeed. There are major agendas at play all around us, and the majority of people are being caught in the mire, as it is intended for them to be. And you ask why I am against this? When watching the vidoes, the first alarm bell rang when the 'channel' said, "Do not seek to understand this." In other words, do not question!

Saint Germain, that would be a canonized person from the "Holy Roman Church" ? I am against Belief-systems because they confine you and do not allow you to experience anything outside of that chosen box of beliefs for yourself. And to me this is control by another name.

An old Druidic Maxim states, "The Truth Against the World". When you understand what that statement is really saying, you will understand my perceptions.

Be well.
Tay.


Covelo

Hello Tayesin,

Thanks for the insights and words of wisdom.

Your quote of the "channel" is not quite complete... I believe he actually said, "Do not seek to understand this moment... Just be with it."  My feeling is that here he is cautioning us against trying to figure out with our mind and instead to use our heart to feel our way in the moment.  I think this is one of the greatest blocks that most people are caught in... always trying to figure out with their mind and thereby putting the heart on the back burner... so to me he is making an excellent point here.

I think we just have two different ways of looking at the same thing here, and both are correct for us.

I believe I can understand the meaning of the saying, "The Truth Against the World"... but I believe that more and more of the Truth is being revealed and accepted by the World, so I think this old saying is becoming outdated and eventually the Truth will be "With the World" and no longer against it.

Peace, my friend...
--Positive Energy--

Tayesin

Quote from: Covelo on June 19, 2008, 01:41:01
Hello Tayesin,

Thanks for the insights and words of wisdom.

Your quote of the "channel" is not quite complete... I believe he actually said, "Do not seek to understand this moment... Just be with it."  My feeling is that here he is cautioning us against trying to figure out with our mind and instead to use our heart to feel our way in the moment.  I think this is one of the greatest blocks that most people are caught in... always trying to figure out with their mind and thereby putting the heart on the back burner... so to me he is making an excellent point here.

I think we just have two different ways of looking at the same thing here, and both are correct for us.

I believe I can understand the meaning of the saying, "The Truth Against the World"... but I believe that more and more of the Truth is being revealed and accepted by the World, so I think this old saying is becoming outdated and eventually the Truth will be "With the World" and no longer against it.

Peace, my friend...

Yes, I see your point there. Agreed. And you are correct that the truth will be with the world one day, just at the moment it is still mainly running against the truth, due in part to the fact that few people are actually ready and able to hear and perceive truth as yet because they are attached to beliefs.

Thanks Covelo

Be well,
Tay

Covelo

Here is a recent video clip of Saint Germain answering a few questions I asked him on his page about enlightenment and the process of channeling... enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy5xFCE-DAs

PS- Thanks Tay... and Keep up the good work my friend
--Positive Energy--