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lo_ri_der

I've got a couple questions on this topic. I read this book about creative visualization by Shakti Gawain, it was very interesting. It claims that by visualizing yourself in a situation enough times and in the right way, it will be bound to happen. I agree with this claim, I have had a couple experiences where this has seemed to work out. Quantum Physics suggest the same thing as well. I was just wondering if there are any limits to how far I can take this. Could I for example, change my natural color of hair, eyes, skin, etc. Could I make a tattoo dissapear on my body? On someone else's body? Can I even affect other people? Really I'm just looking to start a discussion on this topic, so any thing you have to say will be great.
How much longer must you remain in this dream before you finally figure out if you're insane or a genius?

CFTraveler

I read somewhere that there's a law that says 'in infinity anything possible will definitely happen'.  Could it be something like that?
Maybe you can manifest something physically possible (beating an addiction, losing weight, making more money, even increasing your intelligence) but with limits dictated either by physics or the collective consciousness (depending on what you believe in?)
Just a thought.
I personally prefer to live in a universe with infinite possibilities...

lo_ri_der

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dingo

Quote from: lo_ri_derQuantum Physics suggest the same thing as well...

Where how what?

Quote from: CFTravelerI read somewhere that there's a law that says 'in infinity anything possible will definitely happen'.
You can prove that with simple statistics.. but it doesn't mean it will happen to you or anyone else on Earth... And we have no guarantee that the Universe will be around forever.

And 'Physically possible' needs to be redefined me thinks.. According to quantum mechanics just randomly teleporting to the surface of mars for no apparent reason is physically possible but highly improbable... Even though that doesn't agree with conventional physics.

Shuringi

Quote from: CFTraveler
I personally prefer to live in a universe with infinite possibilities...

You do...:wink:
- "If you don't know yourself, how could you possibly know another" -

lo_ri_der

Quote from: dingo
Quote from: lo_ri_derQuantum Physics suggest the same thing as well...

Where how what?



OK, when I said this, I meant that quantum mechanics follows the same idea of matter being able to be changed by thinking about it. For me, it is hard to explain, here is something I found useful and easy to understand, I got it from another post:

Our world can be divided into 3 levels,
Microscopic, Mesoscopic, Macroscopic levels
At each level we perceive matter differently.

Mesoscopic level is where we live, is at which our normal life goes about.
Macrosopic level is where stars and planets live.

Make a guess, what laws of physics govern the Mesoscopic Level?
Bingo! They are Newton's 3 laws of Mechanics.

The acceleration of an object is proportional to Force applied to it.
F = ma

Now what laws of physics govern the Macrosopic Level?
This one is what you could only learn in University.

The answer is General Relativity. The theory discovered by A. Einstein.
General Relativity says the space is NOT FLAT!

What do you mean the space is NOT FLAT?
Imagine you draw a straight line on a world map, from New York to Shanghai.

Now imagine what the straight line would be like, if you have drawn it on the Earth. It is no longer a straight line but a curve traversing half a sphere connecting the two cities.

You see the space is not flat at all.
The same thing happens in the outer space, between star and star.

Quantum Mechanics is the physics governing the microscopic level, the level where atoms and elementary particles live.

Imagine a coin lying on the table, it could only be one of the two possibilities: HEAD or TAIL.

But for a coin rotating on the table, how would you describe it?
Your best answer is that the coin is 50% HEAD and 50% TAIL.

Quantum Mechanics say this is precisely what happen at microscopic level. That's you are not 100% sure, what happen to an atom.
You can only tell how much chance it could turn out to be this way, and how much chance it could turn out to be that way.

A Mesocopic object, like a car, can have only one value of Energy at each instant. If a 500kg car is traveling at 5 metres per second, the Kinetic Energy is (1/2) times 500kg times (5 metres per second) squared.

But a Microscopic object can have more than one value of Energy at each instant!

It is possible that an atom has 1 calorie, 5 calories, 10 calories Energy value at the same time! All you need to find out is the chance, the probability of the atom being in each Energy value.

Imagine a person walking from home to school, how many paths is he taking?

Note, I am asking how many paths he is taking NOT how many paths he can take.

The answer is ONE of course, he could have taken a shortcut, he could have wandered around the neighbourhood, he could have chosen a zig-zag-like fanciful way of walking.

The point is, once he has made up this mind, now he is on his way to school, he is taking only ONE path.

This not happening to an atom which is billion times smaller than us. the atom is taking multiple paths when moving from one point to one point!

when you observe it, the atom will appear to be at one point, for you!
When you do not observe it, the atom appears everywhere again, countless possibilities.

Bizarre? That's Quantum Mechanics.
How much longer must you remain in this dream before you finally figure out if you're insane or a genius?

CFTraveler

dingo said:  
Quotejust randomly teleporting to the surface of mars for no apparent reason is physically possible but highly improbable...
Well, then change  the phrase 'physically possible but highly improbable'...  :razz:
And also, when I said in Infinity, I wasn't presupposing our universe is infinite-just the opposite, in my belief.
However, if I had my druthers,
See previous quote.

dingo

Would "physically reasonable" do :grin: ?

lo_ri_der:
Sorry for making you type that all out :smile: but as I understood quantum physics (which I don't, really, I just heard about little bits of it) - it's not the observer that causes the change or 'collapse of the waveform', but the act of observation. Quantum physics itself does not claim that thought can manipulate matter (except within the brain where it clearly does) - it's just one interpretation of the theory.

lo_ri_der

Don't worry, I just copied and pasted.
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TheDarkChakra

If you want to get anything and everything through manifestation I suggest you browse around //manifestlife.com. It's a great website and I posted a lot there (and annoyed everyone like hell XD).

baodur

I read somewhere I think at wingmakers site that when you completely awaken your kudalini energy anything is possible
[url]http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/Wingmakers/Contents.html[url]

CFTraveler

I've also heard that it can be anything from fantastic to horrific.

baodur

If you can't control your thoughts then yes it can be terrible

lo_ri_der

So...anything would be possible? If I wanted to make a loved one who is dead be alive again, would I be able to? I'm not saying I would ever want to do that, but how is that possible?
How much longer must you remain in this dream before you finally figure out if you're insane or a genius?

Lighthouse

Quote from: lo_ri_derSo...anything would be possible? If I wanted to make a loved one who is dead be alive again, would I be able to? I'm not saying I would ever want to do that, but how is that possible?

Jesus did it, so can we.  We all have that same spark of Divinity.  The only difference was, ol' JC Knew who he was and trusted in that Divine spark within him that he called Abba, we don't.
http://www.divinewithin.com - Uncovering the Divine Within
http://www.worldawakened.com - World Awakened
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/worldawakened - World Awakened Talk Radio
http://www.innercirclepublishing.com - InnerCircle Publishing

CFTraveler

Quote from: Lighthouse
Quote from: lo_ri_derSo...anything would be possible? If I wanted to make a loved one who is dead be alive again, would I be able to? I'm not saying I would ever want to do that, but how is that possible?

Jesus did it, so can we.  We all have that same spark of Divinity.  The only difference was, ol' JC Knew who he was and trusted in that Divine spark within him that he called Abba, we don't.
Awesome answer!  :lol:

Shuriken

If I could visualize something and having it come true I would probably visualize girls and green things that fold
May the bridges you burn destroy only your enemy.

Lighthouse

QuoteIf I could visualize something and having it come true I would probably visualize girls and green things that fold

Then do it silly... Actually, it's not the green things that fold that you want, it's the things that can buy you.  Make yourself a visualization board so you can focus on what you want (funny this thread was reactivated today, I just went out to get supplies to make a bunch of these boards.)  Cut out pics from magazines and look at the board every day.  There is a movie called The Secret that was up for free on the internet but I don't know if it is anymore... but it talks about this subject and how creative our thoughts are.  The problem is, we tend to focus on what we don't want rahter than what we want... and whatever we focus on, the Universe says, "YES!!"  So if you say, "I'm a loser and have no money" the Universe says, "YES!!"  If you say, "I'm awesome, chicks dig me and I can afford anything I desire"  The universe also says, "YES!!"

Get it?  

Make yourself a poster of pics you wish to create in your life, spend some time with it every day and after a month, things will start turning around.  Do this for 15 minutes a day and I promise, things will start moving in the direction of your dreams.

Kerri
http://www.divinewithin.com - Uncovering the Divine Within
http://www.worldawakened.com - World Awakened
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/worldawakened - World Awakened Talk Radio
http://www.innercirclepublishing.com - InnerCircle Publishing

jilola

Also if you want money you'd better get clear about it asap.
Even moldy matresses fold.

2cents & L&L
Jouni

kizzyboy328

I say that things are not meant to be changed, unless it is meant to change, if it is meant to happen then it will.
In bed my real love has always been the sleep that rescued me by allowing me to dream.

Lighthouse

QuoteI say that things are not meant to be changed, unless it is meant to change, if it is meant to happen then it will.
Then that is what you create.
http://www.divinewithin.com - Uncovering the Divine Within
http://www.worldawakened.com - World Awakened
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/worldawakened - World Awakened Talk Radio
http://www.innercirclepublishing.com - InnerCircle Publishing

Selski

Quote from: jilolaAlso if you want money you'd better get clear about it asap.
Even moldy matresses fold.

2cents & L&L
Jouni

:locolaugh:

Thanks for clearing that up - I wondered for the life of me what they meant by "green things that fold"!!!  :lol:

Sarah
We all find nonsenses to believe in; it's part of being alive.

thenextstep

i once envisioned myself as how i wanted my body to look.  it required some amount of weight loss.  


since then i have lost 45 pounds without any explanation.  my physical health has become near perfect as well.  doctors have no answers for me.

Lighthouse

YUP!!!  That's how you do it!!!  You Go!  Good for you!  :thumbsup:
http://www.divinewithin.com - Uncovering the Divine Within
http://www.worldawakened.com - World Awakened
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/worldawakened - World Awakened Talk Radio
http://www.innercirclepublishing.com - InnerCircle Publishing