Destruction of Vatican

[MrBurgo]

Briefly!!

I looked down & saw the Vatican exploding.....There was a Muslim with me also looking down...

Peace between all brothers & Sisters??

Love & light

Christian

[Leannain]

love to u 2

[no_leaf_clover]

Briefly!!

I looked down & saw the Vatican exploding.....There was a Muslim with me also looking down...

Peace between all brothers & Sisters??

Love & light

Christian

That actually would be really logical of the Muslims, since we've been blowing stuff up all around their holy sites. I'm surprised they haven't tried yet.

[MrBurgo]

Muslims respect other religions, it would be against Allah for a true Muslim to do such a thing.

[sweetbliss]

I've also heard that 2005 will be the year when all the differences between different religions and all the '-ism's will drop off. That the religious will be finally grasped as an inner happening, not as organizational stuff.

[no_leaf_clover]

Muslims respect other religions, it would be against Allah for a true Muslim to do such a thing.

Where have you been? lol

The radicals have this thing called a 'jihad', which is pretty much bringing death to anyone who doesn't believe the same things they do. Given not all Muslims want this, but I believe the Koran itself endorses the jihad.

[MrBurgo]

Where have I been???
I have Muslim friends!!
Have you Read the Koran???
With arrogance like what you write no wonder they don't like western society!!
Perhaps its about time People stood up & called for sanctions against the USA until it TO SURRENDERS ITS WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.
If the USA kept its nose in its own backyard instead of sticking its nose over other peoples yards then just perhaps the world can find peace.
Worry about whats happening in your yard my friend but don't come into my yard because i to would seek revenge.

America Does Not Own God, Lord Jesus Christ perhaps its about time yous realized that.
GOD BLESS THE WHOLE WORLD
The radicals have a Jihad you say???
Americans Have more Nuclear weapons, biological weapons etc than any other country on earth....Hate for them to blow up in your backyard...

[MrBurgo]

The Bible also endorses Murder to...Though shalt not kill??? yet the God of the bible in the old testament is always breaking that commandment...
Thats why I believe in the Inner God that doesn't endorse Murder & seek Truth through Jesus Christ...
Its Christian Man that says Muslims are Wrong etc not God Or Jesus for the Answer to that simply is Love as I have Loved you.
Two Wrongs never did & never will make a right.

[sweetbliss]

What about Afghanistan?

Americans Have more Nuclear weapons, biological weapons etc than any other country on earth...

Yea, but what are they doing with them? Are they using them the same as a crazy dictator would? I'm not saying that what Americans do is wright lol, and truly, some people (not only from America) should understand that they do not own Christ.

I am from a country which enjoys freedom because of the foreign policy the Americans have been leading in the last half century. And that's why we know very well what we owe to them. When President Bush Jr. came here about two years ago, he said something like: 'You have also been in such a dark situation, and you know it is wright to support people to become free and live in normalcy' (related to Iraq). Which is very true, we know that well, because, indeed, we have been there.
When people become free, the vibrations, the whole living atmosphere of that country changes. I cannot tell you how many of my depressions vanished just because of that!

Also, I have met some very evolved souls, who sustain the Bush has very good vibrations, so he must be doing the good thing, according to that.

In St. John's 'Revelations' the destruction of Babylon is mentioned. Also, Christ does not appear there in the forgiving, self-sacrificing form (he has already accomplished that once), but in another form...
Warrior angels have also been mentioned in different world scriptures, also Archangel Michael is described as such... Prophet Mohamed also fought in war, against the unfaithful.
Today there is also a was, but maybe the solution is to see that the battle field is inside of us. The higher 'jihad' also means the fight against the inner sins and weaknesses.

If you would tell your Muslim friends that Christ is the Son of God, will they give it a thought...? Because, if one goes a bit deep in meditation, he/she will see that this is true, he is not a prophet but the divine child. And, when welcomed within our souls, he makes all useless tensions and conflicts disappear. He is the one who can do this to us, there is only one divine child, in all of us. And, as long as he is not awaken, we are driven mad.
As well as Mohamed was the incarnation of the divine principle of the spiritual master, so should be recognized and respected by everyone. But for this people shall also respect and recognize the value of insight and meditation to enlightenment.

Still, I also believe very much in crossing the barriers.

Salutations to your friends! Love will win the game!

[MrBurgo]

Mohamed was a prophet of God & now ascended Master.
A lot of people still believe he is totally responsible for the Koran etc...He is not.

The idea of telling Muslims about Jesus Christ is a good one but it is inherently WRONG for man to shove this down peoples throat.
It was Bible bashers & Urantia Book Bashers that turned me off Religion full stop.

I love Jesus Christ but to many Christians focus on his Death & Sacrifice rather than the true reason he came & that was to bring love & forgiveness from the father to mankind directly.

It was Mankind that Killed & Tortured Jesus not his father & once Mankind realizes this we can ALL move on.

A lot of SO CALLED revelations are coming out at the moment bringing forth with it pain & suffering when they don't happen.

The Truth is we have what we need right now but to much bitching ALL OVER THE WORLD & POWER MONGERING ON THE PART OF THE USA Government is stopping it.

YOU CANNOT BRING PEACE THROUGH VIOLENCE.

AMERICA USED SO CALLED URANIUM DEPLETED MUNITIONS IN THE FIRST GULF WAR.

I served with pride in the Royal Australian Navy but left after my 4 yrs due mainly to the fact I could not justifiably kill someone & because I lost my faith.

YOU try loving someone who rescues you from a tyrant but then ACCIDENTALLY KILLS YOUR FRIENDS & CHILDREN then says it was an accident.

There is a lot more to Iraq than Freedom & oil & those in the know can see this.

Its Still about Control in the guise of freedom.

Beware they will come as Wolves in sheep's clothing.

The enemy has many tricks & he can raise his energy levels very easy.

I'm not saying GW Bush is the enemy because lets face it if you listen to some of the statements that come from his mouth you would have to say hes a clown.

God Creates....Satan Imitates

The Problem isn't Muslims or Islam or non Christians... The problem is the WHOLE of Mankind.

We will all find out the truth one day if not here then in Heaven because there is no hell only here on Earth & i have escaped mine by giving up Drugs & Alcohol.

Love & Light

Christian

[no_leaf_clover]

Where have I been???
I have Muslim friends!!
Have you Read the Koran???
With arrogance like what you write no wonder they don't like western society!!
Perhaps its about time People stood up & called for sanctions against the USA until it TO SURRENDERS ITS WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.
If the USA kept its nose in its own backyard instead of sticking its nose over other peoples yards then just perhaps the world can find peace.
Worry about whats happening in your yard my friend but don't come into my yard because i to would seek revenge.

America Does Not Own God, Lord Jesus Christ perhaps its about time yous realized that.
GOD BLESS THE WHOLE WORLD
The radicals have a Jihad you say???
Americans Have more Nuclear weapons, biological weapons etc than any other country on earth....Hate for them to blow up in your backyard...

The Bible also endorses Murder to...Though shalt not kill??? yet the God of the bible in the old testament is always breaking that commandment...
Thats why I believe in the Inner God that doesn't endorse Murder & seek Truth through Jesus Christ...
Its Christian Man that says Muslims are Wrong etc not God Or Jesus for the Answer to that simply is Love as I have Loved you.
Two Wrongs never did & never will make a right.

First off, I'm against US policy as well. I'm sort of hoping for some civil problems to get things changed in regards to how things operate over here. Secondly, I'm not Christian, and I'm aware of what the Bible says in regard to such things.  I'm still pretty sure the Koran endorses the jihad.

Yea, but what are they doing with them? Are they using them the same as a crazy dictator would?

In all fairness, Saddam wasn't using them either. In fact.. we never found any. They gave up the search not too long ago.

Also, I have met some very evolved souls, who sustain the Bush has very good vibrations, so he must be doing the good thing, according to that.

That makes me want to cringe XP  There is so much he has done that goes against that statement..


Sounds like you two are heading in the direction of preaching to each other. :/

[MrBurgo]

I am a Christian by name & Faith.

Read The Koran, being pretty sure isn't sure??

Preaching???

Isn't that what your doing as well???

Love & Light

Christian

[no_leaf_clover]

Ah, my mistake then. Skimming over the posts it just seemed like you were arguing for Islam and he was arguing for Christianity.

References to killing infidels (jihad) in the Koran:

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Fight then against them [infidels] until strife be at an end, and the religion be all
of it God's. 8.40

O Prophet! Contend against the infidels and the hypocrites, and be rigorous
with them. 9:74

Believers! wage war against such of the infidels as are your neighbors, and let them find you rigorous. 9:124

Give not way therefore to the Infidels, but by means ot this Koran strive
against them with a mighty strife. 25:54

Fight for the cause of God. 2:245

God loves no infidel. 2:276

God, you are our protector: give us victory therefore over the infidel
nations. 2:286

[MrBurgo]

Don't you get it.
Mohamed is not responsible for the Koran.
It was written by a group of Jews as they refused to accept Jesus as The Messiah.
Mohamed acknowledges Jesus, Muslims reject him & so do Jews.
I personally don't like Islam but because i have met & known some beautiful people who are Muslims you have to look past that.
The Koran Like the Bible depends on how it is translated.
The Holy Bible talks of God sending people to kill others so in reality both are as bad as each other.
The Christian Faith isn't the true faith either because its basis is MAN MADE RELIGION.
I have my beliefs on the God of the old testament but as not to offend anyone I wont say.
The best way is look at the god of the old testament & the God of the new testament and you would swear they where different beings.
God of old testament is constantly breaking his own commandments, God of the new testament is God that dwells in every living thing, He doesn't just live in man he lives in all his creation.

[no_leaf_clover]

Mohamed is not responsible for the Koran.

I know. It's unfortunate that he isn't, and unfortunate Jesus didn't write the Bible. They were both good men, as was Buddha, and others. People can follow any faith really and be good people, but the faiths themselves, as you make a good point of, don't work everybody.

I was simply backing up my claim that the Koran itself said such things. Nothing against Mohammed.

[sweetbliss]

Mohamed is not responsible for the Koran.
It was written by a group of Jews as they refused to accept Jesus as The Messiah.

Indeed, Mohamed is not, he did not even know how to write, he did not need it, lol,  to raise the conscience of the people around him! It was a fellow (I don't remember his name right now, I'll check, I think it's Abu Bakr, Mohamed father-in-law), and who is also responsible for Killing Ali, Mohamed son-in-law and Ali's two sons. Mohamed daughter Fatima dies out of grief. Mohamed's desire was that Ali takes over the leadership after his death. This fellow Abu Bakr distorted very much the Islam and he founded the Suni movement. Ali's followers are the Shia ('Shia' means 'family'). I'm not much aware about the reality of Islam, so I don't know all their groups and who is closer to truth, so that I can be on anybody's side. Anyway, as far as I know, Mohamed predicted the exact number of groups the Islam will fall into (I've read that today there are exactly the number he predicted), and also said that only one will be right.

Abu Bakr wrote the Koran, as well as the text selection for the Bible has been made by the group of organizers who have destroyed the more genuine Christian, the Gnostics. Which does not imply that the two are not in great part Holy Scriptures.

Sorry, Christian, if I know that you have served in the army, I wouldn't have spoken so directly. I mainly wanted to say that many times there are two sides of a situation.

Anyway,   when I was talking about 'warrior angels', I mainly had in mind Archangel Michael!    
I think you know what I mean!

Have a nice day, you all